"K80" ZT - Engine Back In! (23/05)

Post pics of your Fiesta here.

Re: Project "K80" ZT - A Mixed Weekend (29/01)

Postby Excursion on Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:26 pm

russ-RST :lovin the progress on this :) engine bay has come up well for wht I assume was a rattle can job? will be watching this very closely as I'm very much considering ditching the CVH in for a full zetec , iv found the frascatti shel seems to have all the holes where needed everywhere Just might not have the thread in them which is bloody handy :lol: also not meaning to be rude but changing all your manifould down pipe and turbo just for 5-10mm of persuasion on the front panel seems a bit of a mess about to me, look at te vauxhall boys when it comes to getting xe's and lets in there shells plenty of them have to massage the chassis leg/engine bay for clearence :lol: iv got to admit tho mark that picture u have posts further up^^ you have alot I clearence there! iv just fitte a t3 to my CVH just now as iv got no where near that amount of space lol and iv mounts the rad exactly the same way you mentioned, over the lip on the cross member at the bottom and its helped endlessly, still not much room down there mind you :rolleyes: looking forward to more progress :)

ps. how comes you went for the adapter plate rather than re drilling the head? or just weld a zetec flange on the CVH manifould? just ditching that adapter plate would solve your hassles with the Down pipe and more clearence

just to add I'm not picking at anyone's ideas etc. nor am I trying to cause an argument just asking as I am very Interested in doin this to my frascatti

russ


Saab exhaust housing helps no end. It's really worth finding one if possible :)
Excursion
Bulletin Board User
Bulletin Board User
User avatar
Posts: 15265
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: Skynet
Your car: Ford Fiesta

Car: 1990 Ford Fiesta XR2i

Re: Project "K80" ZT - A Mixed Weekend (29/01)

Postby Tweek on Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:43 pm

Russ, at the time of purchasing the adapter plate it seemed to be a tried and tested idea. I've read a few people saying to avoid drilling and tapping the head. I'm not a fan of the adapter plate if I'm honest, it just seemed a good idea at the time, not anymore! Combining that dodgy plate (which is quite dodgy when you see the pics) with the misfitting exhaust, radiator clearance etc, it's probably a much better job just to fit the Focus setup. I know other setups are available and will do the job fine if not better etc but the Focus parts are reasonably priced and for some strange reason, quite easy to get hold of *touch wood!*

So, because of that, that's why I don't really want to bodge the chassis. It's a good chassis and I don't want to damage that just to fit a dodgy turbo setup :lol: No offence or anything taken, I see where you're coming from :)

Oh, and yes the paint on the front suspension turrets was done with rattle cans! I seem to have found the knack with them if they don't react.

Mark, as I've not yet bought the Focus bits, I'll have a few minutes looking at the Saab housing and see if it changes my mind (again). Which models am I looking for? Or are all petrol Saab turbo housings the same?
Image
Tweek
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 9240
Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:22 am
Location: Gloucester
Your car: VW Golf GTD

Car: 1996 Ford Fiesta Zetec Turbo

Re: Project "K80" ZT - A Mixed Weekend (29/01)

Postby Excursion on Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:36 pm

Tweek :Mark, as I've not yet bought the Focus bits, I'll have a few minutes looking at the Saab housing and see if it changes my mind (again). Which models am I looking for? Or are all petrol Saab turbo housings the same?


Here are a couple:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SAAB-900-8-VA ... 3ccbce5e00

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SAAB-900-Clas ... 20ceebbd6c

Maybe the seller has a downpipe too.

I used the entire Turbo as it has a .38 housing instead of the usual .36 on the ERST, so it suits the larger Zetec a little better.
Excursion
Bulletin Board User
Bulletin Board User
User avatar
Posts: 15265
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: Skynet
Your car: Ford Fiesta

Car: 1990 Ford Fiesta XR2i

Re: Project "K80" ZT - A Mixed Weekend (29/01)

Postby Rhinopower on Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:52 pm

Looks a good option including marks suggestions for mounting the radiator :)
MotorcyclesFish :The thing is if I caught Brian fudgekin a bloke, I wouldn't think 'oh Brian's a gay', I'd think 'Brian that fudgekin weird haired mongoloid is raping a gay to see if anyone finds it funny' :lol: :lol:
Rhinopower
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 6466
Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:41 am
Your car: Volvo FH330

Car: 1983 Ford Escort

Re: Project "K80" ZT - Exciting Delivery (07/02)

Postby Tweek on Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:06 pm

Image

That is all :D
Image
Tweek
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 9240
Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:22 am
Location: Gloucester
Your car: VW Golf GTD

Car: 1996 Ford Fiesta Zetec Turbo

Re: Project "K80" ZT - Exciting Delivery (07/02)

Postby jayrs on Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:33 pm

Good stuff wayne :Q
jayrs
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 31520
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:32 pm
Location: I.O.W
Your car: FRST, XR2, ST170, ST225

Car: 1991 Ford Fiesta RS Turbo

Re: Project "K80" ZT - Exciting Delivery (07/02)

Postby FRSJON on Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:44 pm

Tweek :Image

That is all :D

nice one :Q where did you get it from?
Image
FRSJON
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 4662
Joined: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:26 pm
Location: ISLE OF WIGHT
Your car: frozen white/carbon zt

Re: Project "K80" ZT - Exciting Delivery (07/02)

Postby Tweek on Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:48 pm

Direct from Emerald, although it turns out that was a bad move cos I could've got it cheaper elsewhere, doh!
Image
Tweek
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 9240
Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:22 am
Location: Gloucester
Your car: VW Golf GTD

Car: 1996 Ford Fiesta Zetec Turbo

Re: Project "K80" ZT - Exciting Delivery (07/02)

Postby Rhinopower on Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:49 pm

Which bits did/didn't you get in the end?
MotorcyclesFish :The thing is if I caught Brian fudgekin a bloke, I wouldn't think 'oh Brian's a gay', I'd think 'Brian that fudgekin weird haired mongoloid is raping a gay to see if anyone finds it funny' :lol: :lol:
Rhinopower
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 6466
Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:41 am
Your car: Volvo FH330

Car: 1983 Ford Escort

Re: Project "K80" ZT - Exciting Delivery (07/02)

Postby TIL13R on Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:50 pm

Good luck with the wires.... :P :wink:
Image
TIL13R
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 3680
Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2003 2:50 pm
Location: bedFORDshire, Drives: Xr2i 8v

Re: Project "K80" ZT - Exciting Delivery (07/02)

Postby Tweek on Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:51 pm

ECU, loom, Map sensor, boost solenoid and a couple of connectors. Didn't bother with the map switch after your advice :)
Image
Tweek
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 9240
Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:22 am
Location: Gloucester
Your car: VW Golf GTD

Car: 1996 Ford Fiesta Zetec Turbo

Re: Project "K80" ZT - Exciting Delivery (07/02)

Postby jonyb4 on Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:10 pm

nice
Image
1800 Zetec 133bhp 140lbs/ft
mk2 pop 1.4i
jonyb4
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 9235
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:05 am
Location: Port Talbot, South Wales
Your car: Si 1.8, mk2 950, 2.0 capri

Car: 1995 Ford Fiesta Si 16v

Re: Project "K80" ZT - Exciting Delivery (07/02)

Postby Michael! on Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:03 pm

Very exciting! Is this looking to be finished by fitp?
Image
Looking for other members? Add yourself to the ft.com members map!
ft-com-members-map-vt190192/
Michael!
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 2088
Joined: Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:15 pm
Location: Blackpool
Your car: RS1800 Sleeper Project + 6N2

Re: Project "K80" ZT - Exciting Delivery (07/02)

Postby Tweek on Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:09 pm

Michael! :Very exciting! Is this looking to be finished by fitp?
If the engine runs ok when it's all put back together yes :)
Image
Tweek
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 9240
Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:22 am
Location: Gloucester
Your car: VW Golf GTD

Car: 1996 Ford Fiesta Zetec Turbo

Re: Project "K80" ZT - New Turbo (10/02)

Postby Tweek on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:45 pm

Well, this arrived today, a Sunday of all days. Focus GT28 turbo package, hopefully this one fits!

Image
Image
Tweek
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 9240
Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:22 am
Location: Gloucester
Your car: VW Golf GTD

Car: 1996 Ford Fiesta Zetec Turbo

Re: Project "K80" ZT - New Turbo (10/02)

Postby Rhinopower on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:50 pm

would love to be splashing out on a gt28 for mine! got the potential to run 420bhp now depending on intercooler & injectors!
MotorcyclesFish :The thing is if I caught Brian fudgekin a bloke, I wouldn't think 'oh Brian's a gay', I'd think 'Brian that fudgekin weird haired mongoloid is raping a gay to see if anyone finds it funny' :lol: :lol:
Rhinopower
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 6466
Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:41 am
Your car: Volvo FH330

Car: 1983 Ford Escort

Re: Project "K80" ZT - New Turbo (10/02)

Postby Tweek on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:54 pm

tbh, it was fairly cheap and in good condition too. Taking out the cost of all the add-on bits (fancy manifold, Forge actuator, Miltek downpipe, lambda, oil hoses), the price wasn't "that" much more than what I sold the T3 for.
Image
Tweek
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 9240
Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:22 am
Location: Gloucester
Your car: VW Golf GTD

Car: 1996 Ford Fiesta Zetec Turbo

Re: Project "K80" ZT - New Turbo (10/02)

Postby Razer on Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:00 pm

nice tweek, hope to see it on fitp :D
FORD = First On Racing Days
Razer
Senior Poster
Senior Poster
 
Posts: 398
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:59 pm
Location: The netherlands
Your car: MK3 RS1800

Re: Project "K80" ZT - New Turbo (10/02)

Postby Rhinopower on Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:07 pm

Got any more pictures of the oil feed hose and ends?
MotorcyclesFish :The thing is if I caught Brian fudgekin a bloke, I wouldn't think 'oh Brian's a gay', I'd think 'Brian that fudgekin weird haired mongoloid is raping a gay to see if anyone finds it funny' :lol: :lol:
Rhinopower
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 6466
Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:41 am
Your car: Volvo FH330

Car: 1983 Ford Escort

Re: Project "K80" ZT - New Turbo (10/02)

Postby Tweek on Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:17 pm

Razer :nice tweek, hope to see it on fitp :D

Cheers :D

Ry, The oil feed hose is a normal braided female ended one, one end has a male to male reducer for the block/T-piece, the other end is left female which goes to an oil restrictor then screws into the turbo, very similar to the T3 pipework.
Image
Tweek
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 9240
Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:22 am
Location: Gloucester
Your car: VW Golf GTD

Car: 1996 Ford Fiesta Zetec Turbo

Re: Project "K80" ZT - New Turbo (10/02)

Postby Excursion on Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:50 pm

That's more like it :D
Excursion
Bulletin Board User
Bulletin Board User
User avatar
Posts: 15265
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: Skynet
Your car: Ford Fiesta

Car: 1990 Ford Fiesta XR2i

Re: Project "K80" ZT - New Turbo (10/02)

Postby jonyb4 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:56 pm

:D
Image
1800 Zetec 133bhp 140lbs/ft
mk2 pop 1.4i
jonyb4
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 9235
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:05 am
Location: Port Talbot, South Wales
Your car: Si 1.8, mk2 950, 2.0 capri

Car: 1995 Ford Fiesta Si 16v

Re: Project "K80" ZT - New Turbo (10/02)

Postby hb69 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:08 pm

whats the estimated bhp of all this?
hb69
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 4995
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:56 pm
Location: Kent
Your car: Fiesta 1.1 LX

Project "K80" ZT - New Turbo (10/02)

Postby dontpannic on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:10 pm

760
Image
dontpannic
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 7246
Joined: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:21 pm
Location: Orpington, Kent
Your car: Fiesta ST / Saxo VTS track car

Car: 2007 Ford Fiesta ST

Re: Project "K80" ZT - New Turbo (10/02)

Postby Rhinopower on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:13 pm

With the Nissan injectors 225bhp, Subaru 268bhp, but i cant see which ones wayne decided to use.
MotorcyclesFish :The thing is if I caught Brian fudgekin a bloke, I wouldn't think 'oh Brian's a gay', I'd think 'Brian that fudgekin weird haired mongoloid is raping a gay to see if anyone finds it funny' :lol: :lol:
Rhinopower
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 6466
Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:41 am
Your car: Volvo FH330

Car: 1983 Ford Escort

Re: Project "K80" ZT - New Turbo (10/02)

Postby Tweek on Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:38 pm

Using the 440cc Subaru ones, they're already in :)
Image
Tweek
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 9240
Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:22 am
Location: Gloucester
Your car: VW Golf GTD

Car: 1996 Ford Fiesta Zetec Turbo

Re: Project "K80" ZT - Updates (16/02)

Postby Tweek on Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:29 pm

Well, that new turbo I was excited about is no good, it's a worse fitment than the old T3 :rolleyes: More on that later.

Progress news first though. Test fitted the intercooler today and spent a while chopping up the front pannel and the front bumper. Everything's still rough but it fits which is the main thing. Some pics:


2 holes cut out for the boost pipes if you can spot them.
Image

1:
Image

2:
Image

And how it looks after removing a carrier bag's worth of foam from the bumper:
Image

Back to the turbo... This one fouls the bonnet catch support, (so it's even further forward). The downpipe fouls the chassis, again, and also the inner CV joint.

Image

Image

Image
Image
Tweek
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 9240
Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:22 am
Location: Gloucester
Your car: VW Golf GTD

Car: 1996 Ford Fiesta Zetec Turbo

Re: Project "K80" ZT - Updates (16/02)

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:01 pm

:(
Image
1800 Zetec 133bhp 140lbs/ft
mk2 pop 1.4i
jonyb4
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 9235
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:05 am
Location: Port Talbot, South Wales
Your car: Si 1.8, mk2 950, 2.0 capri

Car: 1995 Ford Fiesta Si 16v

Re: Project "K80" ZT - Updates (16/02)

Postby FRSJON on Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:03 am

ffs. well at least both turbo's seem in good condition and easily sold on. any other plans turbo wise ?
Image
FRSJON
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 4662
Joined: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:26 pm
Location: ISLE OF WIGHT
Your car: frozen white/carbon zt

Re: Project "K80" ZT - Updates (16/02)

Postby Rhinopower on Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:09 am

That turbo might be ok with a standard mk1 frs ex manifold. That one is a 200sx manifold with a zetec flange welded on
MotorcyclesFish :The thing is if I caught Brian fudgekin a bloke, I wouldn't think 'oh Brian's a gay', I'd think 'Brian that fudgekin weird haired mongoloid is raping a gay to see if anyone finds it funny' :lol: :lol:
Rhinopower
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 6466
Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:41 am
Your car: Volvo FH330

Car: 1983 Ford Escort

Re: Project "K80" ZT - Updates (16/02)

Postby Tweek on Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:10 am

Tell me about it! I sold the old T3 for what I paid for it so no big deal there, this one will either be snapped up fast or not go at all I fear. I keep looking at engine bays with the original OEM Focus RS manifold and standard turbo etc. It looks smaller and more compact etc. but I don't know if it actually is, or whether it's an illusion because tubular manifolds are "fat."

This recent setup, now I've studied it better is a little clumsy. It's a Nissan 200SX turbo and housing, an unknown tubular manifold with a zetec flange on it. Then the downpipe is a Miltek FRS item but with the 200SX exhaust housing flange welded on. None of it looks dodgy or anything, just all a bit clumsy for the little Fiesta engine bay I rekon.

Edit, Ryan you just beat me to it!

Looking at the picture again, the 45-degree or so angle the turbo mates on seems to be the reason why the turbo is pushed so far forward. If I fitted it to a FRS manifold the downpipe would be a long way off course :(
Image
Tweek
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 9240
Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:22 am
Location: Gloucester
Your car: VW Golf GTD

Car: 1996 Ford Fiesta Zetec Turbo

Re: Project "K80" ZT - Updates (16/02)

Postby RS rob on Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:09 pm

hope you get the turbo situation sorted soon
keep at it, its looking great
RS rob
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 4176
Joined: Tue Feb 18, 2003 1:16 am
Location: south wales

Re: Project "K80" ZT - Updates (16/02)

Postby Tweek on Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:17 pm

Cheers Rob :)

I've got hold of a standard Focus RS exhaust manifold today. This one's getting my hopes up as the turbo flange points down and back towards the engine rather than towards the radiator. Fingers crossed.
Image
Tweek
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 9240
Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:22 am
Location: Gloucester
Your car: VW Golf GTD

Car: 1996 Ford Fiesta Zetec Turbo

Re: Project "K80" ZT - Updates (16/02)

Postby hb69 on Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:24 pm

Just mount the turbo in the boot like that Matt black ka
hb69
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 4995
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:56 pm
Location: Kent
Your car: Fiesta 1.1 LX

Re: Project "K80" ZT - Updates (16/02)

Postby Rhinopower on Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:36 pm

The one with a vaux v6? That car was awesome!
MotorcyclesFish :The thing is if I caught Brian fudgekin a bloke, I wouldn't think 'oh Brian's a gay', I'd think 'Brian that fudgekin weird haired mongoloid is raping a gay to see if anyone finds it funny' :lol: :lol:
Rhinopower
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 6466
Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:41 am
Your car: Volvo FH330

Car: 1983 Ford Escort

PreviousNext