"K80" ZT - Engine Back In! (23/05)

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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Bodywork Begins (15/09)

Postby Tweek on Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:00 pm

Still no great progress on the engine as yet, it is very slowly moving in the right direction though. In the meantime, I moved the rear end over and a new tailgate. You get a sense of deja vu that's for sure.

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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Bodywork Begins (15/09)

Postby - Danny Boy - on Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:16 pm

Whats going on with the wiper hole on the boot? Looks a bit poorly :(
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Bodywork Begins (15/09)

Postby Tweek on Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:17 pm

There's a plate welded over from the inside, the marks are from the welder
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Project "K80" ZT - Bodywork Begins (15/09)

Postby dontpannic on Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:22 pm

I think be inclined to put standard rear lights on?


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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Bodywork Begins (15/09)

Postby hb69 on Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:26 pm

Has the spoiler been redone?
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Bodywork Begins (15/09)

Postby Tweek on Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:32 pm

Yeah, it's a different bootlid which already had the holes for this spoiler :)
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Bodywork Begins (15/09)

Postby hb69 on Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:38 pm

wasnt in good shape iirc is what i mean
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Bodywork Begins (15/09)

Postby Tweek on Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:40 pm

no, it was previously wonky from the wrong holes!
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Bodywork Begins (15/09)

Postby jayrs on Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:16 pm

slow progress is still progress though mate, so its all good.

you wanna get something over that hole/welded plate in the boot before the rust sets in mate
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Bodywork Begins (15/09)

Postby Tweek on Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:21 pm

I have, there's ductape on there at the moment :lol:
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - More Parts Collected (24/11)

Postby Tweek on Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:24 pm

A little more progress, nothing really visual at the moment though. The 5dr has now GONE :cry:

Cylinder head's just gone off to be cleaned out and fitted with new area-six valve springs, new seals and skimmed a little to get the compression ratio right.

In the meantime I've collected more parts including a Zetec-S rear beam, new pumps and engine mounts.

A few new pics anyway, nothing spectacular as of yet...

Oil return hose, albeit tight, should be ok:
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All the electrics from the previous car are wired in and functioning now:
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Various smaller collected items:
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Nissan or Subaru injectors, should allow me to keep the standard Zetec inlet manifold. Will probably require upgrading the fuel pressure regulator.

Nissan injectors are 370cc (purple) and the Subaru's are 440cc (yellow)
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I am curious though as to what this pin in the centre is for? From what I could see it seems to just be a seating guide pin but then there's 2 holes in the side of the injector just below which also expose the pin....
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Hopefully the updates will start coming thick and fast in the new year :lol:
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - More Parts Collected (24/11)

Postby - Danny Boy - on Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:50 pm

Does the pin pull out at all? I can't think what it's for, because I know that subaru's have retainer caps on them.

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Re: Project "K80" ZT - More Parts Collected (24/11)

Postby Tweek on Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:53 pm

Yeah, the caps have small rubbers in that slot around the pin presumably to seat it correctly, exactly same with the Nissan versions. What's thrown me though are the 2 small holes just below on the sides.
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - More Parts Collected (24/11)

Postby - Danny Boy - on Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:44 pm

I've seen them holes on a lot of injectors over the years, I think it's just a standard thing. Of course it must serve some sort of purpose, but I can't think what it is lol.
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - More Parts Collected (24/11)

Postby Dave5300 on Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:07 pm

great progress mate, mad seeing it as a 3dr! :o :)
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Progressing (09/12)

Postby Tweek on Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:43 pm

Cheers dude :D

So, this weekend saw the return of the cylinder head, front engine mount bracket welded in and fitment of the Zetec-S Rear axle.

The pistons in the block lowered the compression more than anticipated so the head was skimmed 0.75mm (ish), leaving the compression ratio at a very nice 8.4:1. Area-Six valve springs fitted along with fresh stem seals.


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Complete Zetec-S polybushed beam. My original handbrake cable was a direct fit, so a heads up for anyone else wanting to do the mod, get a very late mk3.5 cable! Mk4/5/Puma goodridge hoses fitted too.

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And finally, the bracket for the front engine mount got welded in today, no pics yet cos it's a bit messy, Arc-welded in :lol: Also started work on changing the master cylinder, 2 of the lines are having the top connector changed this week.
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Progressing (09/12)

Postby :: blade :: on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:41 pm

why have you kept the drums? or are you thinking discs later on? you need to hurry with this and get it on the road asap :p
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Progressing (09/12)

Postby Dave5300 on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:53 pm

great work mate, rear axle makes a nice difference on the road :wink:
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Progressing (09/12)

Postby Tweek on Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:02 pm

Iain, it doesn't need discs, drums are plenty! :)
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Progressing (09/12)

Postby :: blade :: on Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:28 pm

discs look prettier :p
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Progressing (09/12)

Postby knuckles on Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:51 pm

Don't need discs on a fiesta. They ain't even needed on a 1.6 focus
You only get discs on a 1.8 & 2.0 focus

Drums with properly adjusted shoes are more than enough.
Remember at one time cars used to have drums all round :wink:
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Progressing (09/12)

Postby jonyb4 on Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:00 am

no theyre not, get 2.0 focus discs imo


dive is annoying, even things out with healthier rear brakes :)
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Progressing (09/12)

Postby jonyb4 on Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:00 am

also good stuff with the head! very tidy CR, nice and safe for a turbo :D
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Progressing (09/12)

Postby snakeyjake on Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:57 pm

Looking good mate can't wait to see this !
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Progressing (09/12)

Postby Rhinopower on Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:00 pm

jonyb4 :no theyre not, get 2.0 focus discs imo


dive is annoying, even things out with healthier rear brakes :)


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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Progressing (09/12)

Postby FRSJON on Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:09 pm

i wouldnt have rear discs again,not unless your using the car every day
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Progressing (09/12)

Postby jonyb4 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:19 pm

Rhinopower :
jonyb4 :no theyre not, get 2.0 focus discs imo


dive is annoying, even things out with healthier rear brakes :)


Have you driven the same car with both to make a fair comparison?



dont be daft, what do i know?!


i do know that cars that dont dive feels better
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Progressing (09/12)

Postby Rhinopower on Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:38 pm

Most of the weight is at the front, it needs to do most of the braking, the 'diving' your complaining about is nothing bad. Yes you could increase the braking at the rear but without sufficient weight will lock up.
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Progressing (09/12)

Postby Tweek on Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:50 pm

Drums are staying regardless, the whole system performed admirably several times around track so why bother messing with it? :)

Also, the rear discs on my 306 have caused me no end of trouble this year!
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Progressing (09/12)

Postby andymac on Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:28 pm

Rhinopower :Most of the weight is at the front, it needs to do most of the braking, the 'diving' your complaining about is nothing bad. Yes you could increase the braking at the rear but without sufficient weight will lock up.


Unhappy times if you have to brake harshly mid-bend (badger / fox / jogger in middle of road, inconsiderate baxtered that they are), the back end goes light because of the weight transfer and the back of the car is suddenly heading toward a hedge because the increase in rear braking efficiency caused the rear tyres to break traction.

Actually no, scrub that, go for it, sounds like fun. :D

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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Progressing (09/12)

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:45 am

haha

so what same 280s for even over 200break?
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Progressing (09/12)

Postby Tweek on Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:12 am

Jony, you're boring me now, stfu.
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Progressing (09/12)

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:16 am

so pissy.. was a genuine question too :rolleyes: :lol:
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Progressing (09/12)

Postby andymac on Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:58 am

jonyb4 :haha

so what same 280s for even over 200break?


The rover produces (guessing) around 200hp and 220lb/ft - it has 260mm vented single pots up front, 240mm solid out back and they're perfectly adequate for road use.

The golf has 256mm 4 pot wilwoods out front and while I can get them to fade (mintex 1155 pads) it takes a lot of effort on roads I'm intimately familiar with. The golf in factory trim is about 112hp (from memory).

It's not what you have, but how you use it. Too much store is put in big brakes and fancy brake compounds by people who will never, ever really exploit them - it's just pub / car park bragging rights for many. :)
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