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[rsfiestaturbo]

dosnt have otherside handle only 1 handle on car no key locks lol i got gd news he said the newman cam is in perfect condition... wont get till monday though. he was complaining it didnt have the original sump on so had to buy a new sump and just looks the same cost me £60...

[MAD_Adamski]

WTF how can it not have the right sump!? seriously who the hell is working on your car!? EVERY cvh sump is the same even the XR2i sump fits the rs one! So how can that one be not right? You need to start taking of control oif what happens to the car , make sure he gives you the old sump and check and i Guarentee its the same as the one he has just fitted!?! And make sure he gives you the newman back!

[jayrs]

mate, you are being/have been taken for a ride so bad its unreal

as adam says, you really need to step up and take control before these idiots bleed you dry, or fcuk the car!

if the newmans cam is fine, it proves they ill advised you right from the start, as we know, they have fcuked you about with the sump issue, which we told you it had nothing to do with the bottom end/oil pick up, and now hes fcuking you about again on the bottom end.

i dont like slating people, but this c unt working on your car is as thick as $hit, and shouldnt be allow to touch a car.

for you own good and the cars, stop using him and do not take his advise/help or crazy ideas as to what is wrong, so far its cost you a sump, gaskets, oil, a cam kit and god knows what else, and when its all said and done, your be well out of pocket for what was, a simple problem of tappets, which you were advised on on page 1 of this thread.

[rsfiestaturbo]

he says it is a cheap nasty sump and i didnt take it bck to the last merchanic took it GT Motorsport they deal with suburas etc performance cars. the one i payed £60 for is the same as that 1 it is a metal sump did it have this when it was on? unless he carnt be assed to clean the sump glue in it? lol i saw a cat cam kit on top of car but this is a decent kit anyway? thought it was abit dodgy there. sorry if i find it abit parranoid now in merchanics in trust worthy. i think last owner after i said the sump off he said he payed £300+ have that done and new sump 10 days ago. was gutted cause like i said the merchanic who had worked on these brand new and old in the days said 90% it is sump oil filter. he says its a cheap nasty pan sump the one i went 100 miles odd to get him today says its the samish one. he also quotes he will have to fit it then and theres a possibility it will leak again... it is a cvh 1.4 1.6 sump.. u guys know about this? i just wanna it all fixed and sorted.. when u talkin tappets u talkin lifter's? or i need to replace them too now? lifters and all has bin replaced to al my knowlege

[fezzRS]

sounds like this mechanic is taking your for a muppet mate what has he done with the sump that was taken off the car according to the preivious owner its was new

[rsfiestaturbo]

no idear is it worth gettin old sump bck?

[fezzRS]

old one :s if its true and it was new then ye it is id want everything back dow jsut let em have it because theyll sell it

[rsfiestaturbo]

aslong it is done and i get all bck. lifters cam and it is fitted right then im happy but if it leaks the sump and i gave the parts dos he have to do it again? before i took it he said if it leaks again he would have to replace but now he is saying this crap about pan would he...

[fezzRS]

if the sump leaks again m8 then there has to be an issue with the block unlikely but not impossible perhaps it may be warped if it keeps leaking how many times now u had the sump taken off now beacause of leaks and as for the cams m8 you should never used standard lifters on a high lift cam newman especially as said it would rip them to bits and as for the rattle it could be something simple you sure all the spark plugs am tight i have heard it before my sisters car had a knock and we could not find out why and when i changed the plugs one was quite loose and when i changed to new ones it cured it might not be the problem but i would check it

as for the bits mate have everything back its your right

[jayrs]

mate, i say again, your trusting work on people that talk $hit, i dont care if they they work on scoobies and all that rubbish, it aint a scobby, and if the guy knew what he was on about he wouldnt of convinced you to get a new sump.

he says the sump is cheap nasty rubbish, how is it he has come to think this? ford sump/pattern sump, so what, you got a pattern sump for £60 and says it looks the same, and it will.......... its a CVH sump pan, simple.

for the guy to say it will leak again just fully confirms what i have thought and what i have said, hes a prick, theres 3 things that will make your sump leak based on the assumtion the oil pump and crank seal housing are fitted correctly (which they will be as it never leaked before)

1, gasket fitted incorrectly, thats the guy who fits its would be at fault
2, the sump pan is out of shape slightly, norm this causes a gasket to split or not seal right
3, sealent is not used on the join lines of the oil pump and the crank seal housing, again, thats the fault of the guy fitting it

there is a 4th, but it depends on how the guy fits it, some people super glue the gasket to the block/sump and fit, NO, it dont like it it will split, or they use so much sealer (bare in mind it shouldnt need any, but i always advise a light smear of blue gasket sealer) that it causes the gasket to shift


over all mate, please dont take this the wrong way but i feel like im banging my head against a wall, you would of been better off just taking into a ford garage to people that knew (or should do at least) what there doing

oh, by the way, if this guy fits a brand new sump gasket and a brand new sump pan and it leaks again, then he should redo it free of charge or at least refund your money.

and i hope fresh oil is being put in each time

[MAD_Adamski]

jay is 150% right here,,, i didnt have time to post today been busy but, you need the get the cam and sump and old lifters etc EVERYTHING he removed back in your hands when you pick the car up just so you know it was all changed, any good garage would do this anyway! Plus as jay has already said if the guy says it leaks again its HIS fault as i never fcuking leaked when i had it! I seriously worry about the car currently wayne in your possession as you seem very eager and keen but know NOTHING thats no insult but your gonna get totally walked over the way your going currently.... you need to do alot of learning about these cars FAST!

[fezzRS]

it seems like hes just not listening we have tried to help him and he rather ken dodds do his car rather than the person who built the car both jay and ad am right you keep going on about this is wrong that is wrong and both have told you to take it to a garage who am well recomended and as for him saying itll leak again just shows what an idiot he is

[Fraggle]

Feel for the car/previous owner an the currant owner here...Surely theres someone in his part of the world who could sort this 4him??????????
We all been had at one point but this is getting outta hand,An everyone on here is trying to help fella but u gotta trust us on HERE who are genuine enthuisasts an been round the block a few times with these motors...Get it together fella as your loosing some serious dosh,An im sure its starting too do your nut in as im sure it is for all us who read this...

PLEASE LISTEN FELLA...people are GENUINELY just trying too help you out an see this done an dusted an for you to get the cracking motor you bought up to speed an enjoying the pride of owning a well sorted FRST...Good luck..

Oh an as for the parts..if i do a job 4anyone i show em whats fecked b4 i go any further,Keep em informed as too whats what then everything is kept an if wanted given back!!!!!!!
So you fecking wanna get them parts back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!RANT OVER.........

[fezzRS]

my advice get the car back stop wasting your money and ask somebody on here to do it for u im sure someone will help you if you asked trust me ppl on here knw alot more than these garages ur taking it to as this is the fiestaturbo specialists

[rsfiestaturbo]

it is at GT Motorsport, he tune's and remap's and deal's with sport's car's... so i havnt took it too any back street garage he works on a industrial place. i will try to get the part's back and i know alot about car's btw i just prefer the professional's to do it hint that's why it is at GT Motorsport he deal's with many of car's not just scooby's he has charged me £180 to fit sump and camshaft kit. i know i have already spent alot on time waste merchanic's and wasted money on part's and anyways ford offered to just put a new gasket on for £280 how much would they charge to put a tunned cam kit on too? £350? most prob lol fingers crossed it is all done as plenty of money has bin spent on my car now... plus i brought it to keep it orelse i wouldnt spend the money on it. fresh oil is being used yes like always. mobil 10w40 2000x1 daft idiot before was using 15w50

[fezzRS]

a highly tuned place that told u to get another sump because he thought the ova one was crap and turned out to be the same so u have put an aftermarket sump on in place of a genuine ford one yes he might tune subarus but this is an rs not a subaru sorry but these guys know alot more on here any way lets just hope it dnt leak again or rattle

[rsfiestaturbo]

no both sumps r the same metal

[rsfiestaturbo]

got car back and it is tappin its arse off still i asked do i need to keep under revs he said yes for 100mil's kepp under 3k revs he said tappin should stop after 100miles too is this true? also lifters are brand new still and gutted the cam looks brand new too hardly a scuff dosnt look like he has replaced the springs as the piper springs look the same as they went and dry of oil. would this damage the car by not fittin piper sprins to the piper lifter's and cam? he wants a extra £20 aswell cause he said the turbo thread boiled where worn so had to replace new. im thinkin has he put cam in and how can i check he has for defo cause these look old'sh these springs and lids but have no oil on the lids or sorings at all which is kinda weird...... it sounds louder tappin than it did before it went lol unless this is natural? but when i take the oil cap off now i can see loads oil running through and loads of smoke coming out of oil cap when running and splurtin oil more as its bits splurtin outta oil cap when it is running and take cap off... i will give it a motorway drive now and stay below 3k revs see if it gos

[fezzRS]

sumps am same metal ,tapping its bollox an he told you it would go after 100 miles sorry but :lol

seems like these so called tuning places am taking you for a muppet m8 has he even give you the old lifters and cam back because this is taking the piss

why on earth didnt he putthe new springs in nottoo sure standard springs will be ok but they deffo should of putthem in with the cams and lifters

thats normal for oil to be chucked out when you take the cap off smoke what do you mean smoke what colour

[MAD_Adamski]

if the engine is hot it will smoke out of the oil cap, and spit. As for the tapping im unsure what would be causing that as top end is only lifters and cam... these cars are a bit tappy anyway. As for the springs it doesnt matter as it had piper ones in anyway so it makes no matter whether they were changed or not it will not effect the running.

Tbh your pretty much on your own here we cant help much more if the top end it tapping then god knows you have just replaced the top end stuff, unless something is wrong with the head or not timed in well and your getting piston slap? hard to say now doesnt help you cant put pictures or videos up so unless you do that your probably on your own as said.... I dont knw what you or glen have don so i cant really advise much more...

[fezzRS]

as adam said surelly you can put a video or have a friedn who will upload a video on to photobucket and copy the link to herre simple

[fezzRS]

get a screw driver longest one you have got and put it over the engine rocker cover, bottom sump, gearbox, also put it on the injectors as they can casue tapping noises and if there is vibration coming throguh the screwdriver then you have pinpointed where the problem is coming from it might not be the head but coudl be bottom end as i said do the screw driver test and report back to us

[rsfiestaturbo]

I DONE 50 MILES IN IT BELOW 3K REVS IN ALL GEARS AND STILL TAPPIN ITS ASS OFF, I WILL UPLOAD VID TO SHOW, I THINK HE HAS CONDED ME ALSO. IM NOT VERY HAPPY AT ALL MAN.. I CAN SEE THE LIFTERS THE TOP END AND THEY DONT LOOK THE SAME U SEE THE DOTS ALONG THE TOP OF THE LIFTERS? WHAT GOS AROUND WELL THE PIPER HAD LOADS DOTS CLOSE AND THESE WHAT ARE IN ARE JUST THE SAME AS THE STANDARD ONES... SO I HAVE NO IDEAR WHAT TO THINK OR DO? HAS HE REPLACED CAM AND LIFTERS IM REALLY PISSED MAN.

[knuckles]

i cant remember the last time i saw a post in technical with 5 pages of waffle

after page 2 i could tell you have taken for a mug by these people.

[jayrs]

FFS, and you still think this guy is great cos he works on scobbies.......

i said it before and i will again, hes a bell end! you paid for a cam kit to be fitted and he didnt do the springs........mate....
if the tappets were new they wouldnt not be loud

im lost for words now, i really am

best you can do is pop the rocker cover off, slacken the rocker arm nuts and twist the rocker arms anti clock wise a bit and hold them there and re-tighten the nuts, dont allow the rocker arm to twist round as you tighten as that will make a loud tapping noise.
im not saying this is the problem, but if d1ck head has tightened them up and allowed them to twist right round it could be something to do with it.

[fezzRS]

as what jay is saying if them lifters have dots on them doesnt look like hes cahnged them

please tell me you got everythiong back of this muppet and for all you know he could of left your old cam kit in there and has the piper cam kit of you and sold it and saying hes done it jsut my point u need to get all your bits back and take photos so these guys can tell u if there is any damage to them components

[fezzRS]

give my m8 smithymk2rs a pm he will probably be able to help u

[rsfiestaturbo]

hi this is the film i just done with mobile sorry sound quality had to hold 1 hand n drive.

[rsfiestaturbo]

nah i dont think any merchanic are decent as far as i know nah... people advised me go to him cause he spost to be gd, i ment at top of lifters around the dge on standard there are chips tookin out like dot cut outs but i noticed the piper lifters where a slight different with more dots and closer they now look as the same as the ones oem ones... the standard lifters... but ooks like he has had me off no idear..... this is 3 merchanics now... i think he hasnt put lifters in well piper ones, i dont know about the cam how am i spost to know sept takin it apart

[fezzRS]

take the car back to him and say u ai changed the lifters he has robbed ya like the others the lifter should be smooth and have no chips at all mate sound like they dnt want to touch it

[fezzRS]

that engine sounds fubard mate possible cause its lost it oil due to oil leak or somet lifters bottom end shells have got hot

[rsfiestaturbo]

that engine sounds fubard mate possible cause its lost it oil due to oil leak or somet lifters bottom end shells have got hot

[ERRR] u mean? nowt wrong with engine sept the tickin or tappin noise. and just was kicked in from cold. check this dudes close can show u many all same close up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqhSC-yVKU4 u can watch all when close up sounds diff to camera than our ears some reason, also this one sounds even worser and spost to be a new engine lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDfxI4pTlS4 i wasnt reving over 2500 revs cause he said rev it below 3k revs, if u mean when i stopped it spinned abit cause of holding phone that jigger was the wheeles when i pulled off after i stopped but the rest of noise is the lifters

[MAD_Adamski]

I think your best just going and sorting this one on your own now wayne!? Lots of us have helped pretty much as far as we can go , even putting up videos and that is not going to really help find your issues... We could all say try changing this and that and we could be totally wrong. I Think your best as said going and finding a decent garage to sort it out/advise you OR you learn from your own mistakes.

I have tried as many others have and to be honest it depresses me reading this , you seem to be going round in circles so i don't think i'll be putting anymore input in i have done my bit and tried to help/explain and its got nowhere.

So i'll wish you good luck and hope you get it sorted.

[jayrs]

as above, ive stopped posting as i feel like im banging my head against a wall, as well as others im sure, theres only so much input we can give and it being ignored before we get fed up, dont take that the wrong way though, its a round about way of saying, you should of listened to us rather then who ever you did.

i hope you get it sorted out one way or another fella

[fezzRS]

best getting it sorted yourself it seems like your just ignoring our advice and were jsut fedup of repeating ourselves i told u to get in topuch with my m8 who knows alot about rs turbos and jsut seems like u wan donkeys messing [ERRR] ya car sorry but this as far as my advice goes no point in repeating ourselves