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by **Gaz7** on Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:01 pm

Kartracer69 :Hi, just seen this post

I want to place an order for the first kit you have, the wash mitts, suds and drying cloth.

I have a darkish metallic red car, i usually spray the car with the hose (not at the current time obv) and use the two bucket method with turtlewax car shampoo. Chamois it all off then wack on some wax i have, and it comes out all clean and shiny. Wheels are cleaned with a brush to agitate the wheel cleaner then have that spray to put on afterwards.

However after reading quite a few posts like this on other forums as well, i really should be treating my paintwork a bit better.

So a good start is your first kit, i'm really interested in this clay as well.

Can i have the first kit and some clay please

I do have swirl makrs but i'm not over fussed, i'm not a concourse person i just want it to look respectable and shiny.

Can you PM me when you read this reply and then we'll sort out payment and address please.

Thanks very much in advance, cheers for the post and the time you've put in.

James

PM and all details sent

Gareth

by **~Tony~** on Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:36 pm

Hi gaz only just noticed this thread.

I'm going to be getting my car resprayed soon as the finish on it now is terrible. and having a fair bit of work done on it.

but when it comes back i will be looking to keep it in the best possible condition.

will prob come down to essex and get you to do the first detail and get some useful tips.

The car is ford black. and will be after respray

but i'm interested if you have anything for matt black paintwork as my wheels are done in this.

also what do you recommend for sapphire blue paintwork, its on a limited edition fiesta sapphire.

cheers Tony

by **~Tony~** on Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:35 pm

whats best for cleaning the interior, both the trim and the cloth upholstery

by **Gaz7** on Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:00 pm

Hi Tony,

Let me know once you have had your respray and i'm sure we'll be able to sort something out. Are you having the car painted as it was originally (i.e. just single layer solid black), or will it now be clearcoated? Most people i've noticed with modern resprays have moved over to clearcoated paintwork...

What finish is on the wheels? Pure matt black single layer, or powder coated, etc?

As for the interior, all the dash/trim etc can be taken care of with Poorboy's Natural Look Dressing - which as the name suggests will leave a clean natural look, rather than 'minicab shine'. The fabrics depend on how dirty they are - just light dirt can be taken care of with a normal automotive shampoo like Autoglyms - anything more serious and you can move up to much stronger products diluted to suit - for example Poorboy's All Purpose Cleaner.

As for the Fiesta - what kind of condition is the paintwork in? Do you want a wet look shine, or a finish to pop the metallic flake in the sunshine?

Gareth

by **Max M4X WW** on Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:13 pm

Gaz, Have you used 'RudeWax' at all?

by **~Tony~** on Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:16 pm

As niether my wheels or car have been painted yet what way would you recommend getting them done in. and let me know more details of spraying method etc if you can.
As for the fiesta sapphire popping would be the one

the paint has been carwashed way too many times but again it will be resprayed

let me know your opinions for both dude

by **Gaz7** on Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:40 pm

Max - yeah i wasn't impressed, it wasn't a bad product, but it's really hyped by it's manufacturers and it doesn't live up to that. Fairly expensive for only a 250ml bottle as well; you could get something much better.

Tony - You may find that you'll benefit from having the paint clearcoated. It then will not fade like solid paint, and will be slightly easier to produce good results on. As for the wheels, i'm not sure what your bodyshop would use to paint them with? Ones i've worked on before, i have just used a chemical polish, followed by PB's wheel sealer. With regular cleaning, this was all that was necessary. However, this makes it hard to maintain a matt finish...

Gareth

by **Gaz7** on Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:36 pm

Tony - i did some product testing for you today, for a solid matt black finish.

If this is the finish you go with on your wheels, to keep it that way you'll only be able to clean them, nothing else. Even the wheel sealer alone added a little shine, which may not be what you're after. You can safely use a cleaner on them, but as for protection, a detailing spray will be about your limit.

Your actual black bodywork is a different matter however, with a range of products available to protect and shine. Let me know more details about the respray, and i'll be able to advise you exactly what you need.

As for the sapphire blue car, to get the flake to pop, you should consider ClearKote VMG/ClearKote RMG/Poorboy's EX-P/Natty's Blue as your product line up. Also, consider giving the car a good clay if it's not been done before.

Gareth

by **Kartracer69** on Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:31 pm

Hi,

to whoever reards this i'd just like to say a massive thank you to gareth, i received everything i asked for this morning, expertly packaged up, even with printed instructions on how to best use the products i individually ordered.

Top top work mate, the wash mitts in particular look and fel exceptional, i'm actually looking forward to washing it all now lol

James

by **mike_wall15** on Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:45 pm

Kartracer69 :Top top work mate, the wash mitts in particular look and fel exceptional, i'm actually looking forward to washing it all now lol

James

It's those lamb wool ones, all nice and soft! :oops:

Top work to Gareth! :aviator:

by **Gaz7** on Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:50 pm

James, many thanks for the positive feedback, i'm glad you're pleased with your products. If you need to know anything else, then just give me a shout anytime

I'll just take this opportunity to add in a reminder to everyone about the lambs wool mitts - remember they are the best you can get, and as such, they're delicate items. Treat them carefully and follow the care instructions i give to ensure you get the best from them

Gareth

by **Guy Mk4** on Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:20 am

Gaz, will you be doing any group buys on engine cleaning products? I realise that for the most part it will be just a degreaser, but I wondered whether there was anything in specific you use?

I had my engine bay jet washed by a valet not so long back, and he used a red fluid (guessing degreaser) in a low pressure spray, followed by a jet wash off, but I never got the name of the spray he used.

Also, what would be the best plastic polish for engines, I love keeping mine looking factory stock, but cleaner

No chrome or anything.

Thanks, Guy.

by **Gaz7** on Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:21 am

Guy - yes, in the future i'll be offering a strong cleaner which can be diluted to suit. As for what to use on the plastics, it depends how long you want to spend on the engine, and how accessible all the plastic parts are.

For example, to do a whole engine bay, AG vinyl and rubber care is very good - as it can just be applied to a clean, wet engine and allowed to dry. To do things individually once the engine is clean, you could try something like PB's Trim Restorer instead.

Gareth

by **Guy Mk4** on Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:28 am

Cool, good news on the cleaner

I do swear by AG Vinyl and Rubber for engine plastics, may have to try Poorboys though if it's as good as you say

Cheers.

by **Gaz7** on Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:46 am

Yep, it is very good. It is not a spray product like the AG though - it's more for if you wanted to do the engine bay piece by piece to carefully get the finish you were after.

AG VandR is a very quick way of doing it however - and although i don't sell it i have no problem recommending it - i'll always try to recommend what's best, whether i sell it or not

Gareth

by **Gaz7** on Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:21 pm

Here's some demo photo's of the products in action:

First off, a demo of this set up: Poorboy's Clay and ClearKote Quik Shine>ClearKote VMG>ClearKote RMG>Poorboy's EX-P>Natty's Blue.

You can see that this set up suits the mid blue colour of the car, enabling a deep glossy look out of direct sunlight, with the EX-P doing it's bit and popping the flake well once in direct sunlight.

Next up, a tough challenge for the wheel products. Unfortunately, the photo's can't do these justice as the sun was in, but they came up even better than i'd hope. Dirty, unloved second hand wheels, rescued after a hard life:

Poorboy's Spray and Rinse done the cleaning here (i also tested Meg's wheel brightener to see what all the hype was about and was underwhelmed to be honest - everyone (in the UK) said it was as strong as you could get, but the PB's beat it quite convincingly...). The cleaned up rims were polished with ClearKote VMG, before being treated to Poorboy's Wheel Sealer. It doesn't show so well in the photo's, but this left a brilliant glossy finish to the silver, and left the wheels very slick. The relfect brilliantly when in direct sunlight.

Poorboy's Bold and Bright shined the neglected tyres, and is also in action here:

Next up, a dark car challenge:

This was completed with Poorboy's Polish with Carnauba Blue, ClearKote RMG, Poorboy's EX-P and Natty's Blue. The bonnet had some swirling, so this was machined first with SSR2.5>SSR1, and then detailed fully as the rest of the car.

The last shot shows the EX-P doing it's thing and popping Imperial's flake. Next time i may try some EX on some panels for a full wet look, even in the sunshine.

Gareth

by **~Tony~** on Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:30 pm

good stuff gaz looking briliant

by **Superal** on Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:53 pm

Will you be popping down to ford fair?

by **Gaz7** on Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:11 am

Superal :Will you be popping down to ford fair?

If i can wangle a day off work, and/or enough people wanted products, then i'll see what i can do

Gareth

by **D.J** on Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:20 pm

Gaz7 :
Kartracer69 :Hi, just seen this post

I want to place an order for the first kit you have, the wash mitts, suds and drying cloth.

I have a darkish metallic red car, i usually spray the car with the hose (not at the current time obv) and use the two bucket method with turtlewax car shampoo. Chamois it all off then wack on some wax i have, and it comes out all clean and shiny. Wheels are cleaned with a brush to agitate the wheel cleaner then have that spray to put on afterwards.

However after reading quite a few posts like this on other forums as well, i really should be treating my paintwork a bit better.

So a good start is your first kit, i'm really interested in this clay as well.

Can i have the first kit and some clay please

I do have swirl makrs but i'm not over fussed, i'm not a concourse person i just want it to look respectable and shiny.

Can you PM me when you read this reply and then we'll sort out payment and address please.

Thanks very much in advance, cheers for the post and the time you've put in.

James

PM and all details sent

Gareth

Hi Gareth, i think i am in a similar position to James.

I've got a moondust Puma, which can have a lovely shine to it.

I'm also not a concourse guy, but i do love the feeling of satisfaction when finishing polishing and waxing the car stepping back and seeing the paint shine and glisten in the sun.

Basically, i think i am after a bit of advice on what to get and your recommendations for frequency of using the products.

I can say that although i would like to polish the car every time i clean here, i don't. I quite often, just give it a good wash and dry and don't polish her.

I saw the tip about seeing if the car needs to be clayed or not, and mine is in desperate need of it.

The products will also be used on a dark green MK5 Fez (the missus), so would it be possible to recommend products for use on both cars?

Sorry if i have been a bit vague with my request, but i think you'll get the general idea (i hope).

Cheers mate.

by **Guy Mk4** on Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:53 pm

I went out to wax the car this morning, and it's amazing how much difference even a simple wax makes to moondust silver. The paint is like looking at chrome, but I know it can be better. The flake is just starting to shimmer and shine. I think I may invest in some of this PB wax at some point, as Im only using Turlewax Premium and that does an impressive job.

I used a bit on my wheels too, and it really makes the chrome polished lip pop

by **Gaz7** on Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:43 pm

DJ - i fully understand that not everyone has lots of time to spend working on their cars. With that in mind, it may be best to spend one day getting the car polished up exactly as you want it, and then using products which don't take much time on future washes.

Obviously to start off, clay your Puma and get rid of all the contaminants. Then polish with ClearKote Vanilla Moose Glaze, and seal this with Poorboy's EX-P. This should be topped with several layers of Optimum Car Wax - but this is not a problem as it's so quick and easy to use. You should be able to do a Puma in 5 to 10 minutes. Once you've done this clean, you should only need to repeat this every few months, depending on vehicle useage, or when you deem necessary.

The key here is the OCW. This is such a good quick product you can use it every wash. It's designed to be layered, so the more you put on, the better the shine gets. It is a 'whole car' product, so no need to be careful - you can safely apply to the paintwork, glass, plastics and rubber. It requires no buffing - you just spray a small amount on per panel, and wipe with a M/F cloth until dry. I've had so much positive feedback about OCW, and i use it myself on my Sierra. You should apply two to three layers on the initial application, to make sure the car is covered, but from then on, you can just do one layer, so all it'll take is 5 to 10 minutes after a wash

I'm making an assumption here, but is the Fiesta Pacific Green? The ClearKote polish will be fine for this car also. You have a choice of sealants, for either a wet look, or to pop Pacific's flake. Convince your girlfriend of the latter, as it's the EX-P that gives this, saving you from buying something else. As for the wax; OCW is the best finishing wax for whites, silvers and light metallics, but also good on all other colours. You would get a better finish from using a different wax on the green, but it's up to you whether you'd want to spend extra money or not...

HTH,

Gareth

by **Gaz7** on Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:47 pm

Guy Mk4 :I went out to wax the car this morning, and it's amazing how much difference even a simple wax makes to moondust silver. The paint is like looking at chrome, but I know it can be better. The flake is just starting to shimmer and shine. I think I may invest in some of this PB wax at some point, as Im only using Turlewax Premium and that does an impressive job.

I used a bit on my wheels too, and it really makes the chrome polished lip pop

Hello mate, as in my above post, you should think about trying the OCW too. I had a phone call from a customer this morning saying he used to use turtle wax on his silver Fiesta ST, but tried the EX-P and OCW and couldn't believe how much better it was - he was really chuffed, which is always the sign of a good product

Gareth

by **D.J** on Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:37 am

Hi Gaareth

Thanks for the advice mate. Couple more questions (sorry)..

What sizes do the products come in? My dad has made an interest, and as i don't live with him, i was wondering if they came in a large size and we could then seperate them into seperate bottles...

Also, What process is used to apply the clay? I've been looking on the Meguires (sorry to swear) web site and they sell it with the quick detailer. I've already got some of this, would it be ok for the clay you sell?

Thanks again
DJ

by **Gaz7** on Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:11 pm

Hello mate,

The products are in 16fl.oz sizes, which is approx. 500ml. The OCW is a spray wax, so you wouldn't really be able to separate that, but you could the others.

Yup, you have to clay using a detailer as a lubricant. ClearKote Quik Shine is the best on the market, but if you have the Meg's one then that will be fine to use. The Poorboy's clay i have is stronger than the Meg's one, so will be more suited to your car which has not been clayed before.

HTH

Gareth

by **Capri** on Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:19 pm

Just wanted to post to say that I used the Poorboy's car shampoo and all the mitts and cloths supplied in the original pack yesterday. What a result - a shine that looks like it's been polished when it hasn't! Highly recommended - thanks, Gaz. I'll be back for the waxes and polishes one of these days!

by **Ash_si** on Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:01 pm

Hi,
I’m looking for some more polish as I have just finished up my AG High Resin polish (I think that’s what it's called) I’m after a polish for my pepper red escort, I don’t have lost of time to wash my car but i try to polish it at least once a month if I can, Whilst I have been impressed with the AG product I was wondering if there is a better product that you could recommend??

Many thanks

Ash

by **Gaz7** on Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:10 pm

Capri :Just wanted to post to say that I used the Poorboy's car shampoo and all the mitts and cloths supplied in the original pack yesterday. What a result - a shine that looks like it's been polished when it hasn't! Highly recommended - thanks, Gaz. I'll be back for the waxes and polishes one of these days!

Alex - i'm glad you're pleased with the results you got

It's always good to get positive feedback from people using the products for the first time

Gareth

by **Max M4X WW** on Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:13 pm

Right Gaz, Trying to work out what i need.

You said..

Poorboys Clay
ClearKote Vanilla Moose Glaze
Poorboy's EX-P
Optimum Car Wax

Im not sure on not using an actual 'polish' as i dont think any of the above have any cutting action in them. So i will probably keep using AG SR or UDP.

What do you think?

Thanks

by **Gaz7** on Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:23 pm

Ash_si :Hi,
I’m looking for some more polish as I have just finished up my AG High Resin polish (I think that’s what it's called) I’m after a polish for my pepper red escort, I don’t have lost of time to wash my car but i try to polish it at least once a month if I can, Whilst I have been impressed with the AG product I was wondering if there is a better product that you could recommend??

Many thanks

Ash

Hello mate, mostly ClearKote products give the best finish on red.

An ideal line up is:

ClearKote Vanilla Moose Glaze
ClearKote Red Moose Machine Glaze
Poorboy's EX
ClearKote Carnauba Moose Wax.

If you just want to polish, then that's the CK VMG stage - although you'll notice a massive difference by adding the others, or at least the wax

Gareth

by **Ash_si** on Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:24 pm

Cheers for the reply how much would that set me back ??

Cheers

Ash_si

by **mike_wall15** on Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:41 pm

Max - If you want to have some cut, then after the clay use some Poorboy's SSR1, that should produce some good results, and once the Glaze & Sealant are over the top you won't have to use the cutting SSR1 for a while.... we'll see what Gareth says

by **MarkRS2K** on Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:11 pm

Alright mate, im intersted in the clay products- ive never clayed my car before, its been polished 100's of times.

Do i use the clay then polish to make it shine after the wash?

What would you suggest as a purchase?

by **Gaz7** on Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:24 pm

Max M4X WW :Right Gaz, Trying to work out what i need.

You said..

Poorboys Clay
ClearKote Vanilla Moose Glaze
Poorboy's EX-P
Optimum Car Wax

Im not sure on not using an actual 'polish' as i dont think any of the above have any cutting action in them. So i will probably keep using AG SR or UDP.

What do you think?

Thanks

Max - the names are misleading - ClearKote Vanilla Moose Glaze is actually a polish, and has slightly more cutting ability than either of the AG products you mentioned. This is ideal on Diamond White.

As Mike mentioned, you can use SSR1 by hand - however this is a proper abrasive polish and i doubt you'll need something this harsh.

The line up for your car is:

Poorboy's Clay > Clay Bar.
ClearKote Vanilla Moose Glaze > Polish.
Poorboy's EX-P > Sealant.
Optimum Car Wax > Finishing Wax.

Gareth

by **Gaz7** on Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:28 pm

Ash_si :Cheers for the reply how much would that set me back ??

Cheers

Ash_si

ClearKote Vanilla Moose Glaze £12.95
ClearKote Red Moose Machine Glaze £12.95
Poorboy's EX £11.95
ClearKote Carnauba Moose Wax. £14.95

Gareth

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