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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby MAD_Adamski on Tue May 10, 2011 11:47 am

well as said the car has been started since the OE lifters put in SO the cam and lifters are now scrap, so you need to buy a new piper cam kit as the newman one is too much hassle. Fit a piper one and IF your lucky it may solve everything depending on whether you have done damage due to what you have already done... I dont wanna say too much online but as said i wil speak more about it on the phone. As said tho i dont know what age you are but changing stuff without finding out about the car first was plain stupid.
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby rsfiestaturbo on Tue May 10, 2011 11:48 am

could by any chance u tell me what u told him? i guess the person u sold it too didnt care much or the last person i brought it off even though he seamed he did.. i agree mate it is booked in with GT Motorsport they fittin Sump Gasket for £130 Ford Quoted me £236 fit the gasket lol i asked both if it started to leak from there would i be garenteed they said yes i would just bring it bck if it started to leak to fix it.. i need to know what lifters is needed.. i got a haynes and could check the cam but id have to do it all myself.... i think cam needs to be checked too see if it needs replacing? any part numbers??
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby rsfiestaturbo on Tue May 10, 2011 11:50 am

lol true but i not long brought it and wanted it fixed and gutted it just sittin there lol where can i get one of these from? are these piper cam better?
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby MAD_Adamski on Tue May 10, 2011 12:43 pm

http://www.burtonpower.com/piperbp285t2.html

buy the cam kit in the link above!

and hope you have done no other damage
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby rsfiestaturbo on Tue May 10, 2011 1:11 pm

will the car be load's better? do i have to quote any codes or just say it is for ford fiesta rs turbo? it says escort on listing at burton or is a escort engine the same?
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby MAD_Adamski on Tue May 10, 2011 1:48 pm

like i said i dont mean to insult you, but you clearly dont understand these cars, STOP TRYING TO CUT CORNERS buy the correct things the one i have linked is the right one for your car... As said the reason its costing you money is because your replacing the wrong things ......
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby rsfiestaturbo on Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 pm

lol well just trying save sum money to pay them do it.. plus this car has cost me a fair sum too £3k and nearly £1k on stuff which got nowhere and nah about £600 new cam kit fitted etc all in 1 half week and lucky i done anything in it... lol maybe i should of took it bck to him but he said he was karting of to ireland and wont be back for awile.. piss taker to be honest..
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby rsfiestaturbo on Tue May 10, 2011 2:58 pm

i will see what mark says from gt motorsport says before i buy anything somethings are best doing yourself so u know it has parts on you brought. lol have to give him a chance though.
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby rsfiestaturbo on Tue May 10, 2011 5:41 pm

hey ad what newman camshaft dos it have in? gt motorsport says he wont take any1's word on it he says he will only see for himself not what some1else says in it. but i said i could find out what newmans model it is..
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby MAD_Adamski on Tue May 10, 2011 5:48 pm

no idea as it was years ago but i ripped the model number off the box and put it in the ford booklet when i gave it to glen, what he has done with it if its still in there or not i do not know....

also if your man at GT had any sense he'd just remove the cam end to see what it is OR remove it as tbh its probably screwed now anyway due to the OE lifters being fitted sounds like he's trying to get more money out of you tbh
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby rsfiestaturbo on Tue May 10, 2011 7:26 pm

nah he just said he wont take any1's word for it he will look at it himself so he knows forsure. he hasnt seen intill friday it is booked. i was told the lifters wont do any arm to the camshaft.. which is very confussing... mark at gt says leave it till friday and he will sort it for me.. it isnt tapping anymore aswell.. must bin air bubble? or possibillity
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby MAD_Adamski on Tue May 10, 2011 9:14 pm

well believe who you want, i know what cam is in there glen didnt change it and also any good mech will know mixing 2 different materials will cause damage,,, the cam will damage the lifters...
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby rsfiestaturbo on Wed May 11, 2011 2:14 pm

i was told it wont do damage but who knows is right and i hope it dosnt anyway imsure it would benifit in a new cam kit anyway?
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby MAD_Adamski on Wed May 11, 2011 2:37 pm

definatly which is why i said change it!
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby jayrs on Wed May 11, 2011 8:59 pm

rsfiestaturbo, i do feel sorry for you with this, as you have been led up the garden path by these so call mechanics, which clearly dont know what they claim to
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby rsfiestaturbo on Thu May 12, 2011 12:06 am

i agree top merchanic's the name merchanic name is becoming to be a skanky name loooooool imsure there are many decent merchanic's out there... seam's many dont care as its not there motor so it is rushed for the reason of £ will keep up to date in whats going on.. ive borrowed my stepdads estate for now loool its so smooth but feels like ur on a boat.... focus
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby rsfiestaturbo on Thu May 12, 2011 12:16 am

i saw a post u saying piper cams is s**t ad??? which is more reliable? the new piper cam which is the 285t2 is called ultimate road not fast road link --> what u think of this kit??? http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motorspor ... 9419/28470

•Fast Road - Power band between 1500-6500 RPM *i fount out is 270 285 285T*
•Ultimate Road - Power band between 2500-7500 RPM *285T2
•Rally - Power band between 2800-7500 RPM *not sure yet lol*
•Race - Power band between 3000-8000 RPM

i think im best with just the ultimate road actually the picture shows 2 camshafts not sure if u get 2? and pully is there.... what u guys thinkin?
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby MAD_Adamski on Thu May 12, 2011 4:01 am

dunno why were having this conversation i'll say for the 5th time 285T2 cam kit, its a 8valve car so only has 1 cam just cause it has it picture of 2 cams doesnt mean you get 2 ITS A PICTURE i told you before if i put a porsche sticker on my car does it turn it into a porsche?! Like i said wayne this is no insult but i think you need to do some serious research as it seems youve bought into a car you know nothing about let alone a tuned one... Or you gonna end up either spending loads of cash or breaking it due to your lack of knowledge....
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby rsfiestaturbo on Thu May 12, 2011 5:21 am

errrrm lack off?? dude its a online store what u talkin bout. lol it's a car what's so different? i used to be more interested in motorcrosses... btw u are insultin with the way u are talkin to me, u learned u still are arnt u or are u the 1 and only? lol every1 learn's and to be honest have u ever stripped engines down and rebuilt them..... takes a wizard to guess right but dosnt if u know... ultimate road IS the 285t2 the fast road is 270 285 285t really unless its new update and put the 285t2 to section ultimate road and havnt updated on burton's? u get a pully on that deal too.. dont think u do on burton? some places do sell them in twin camshaft's. :P btw why u say get piper and on ur other thread u said piper are crap?? and u said it was outta newman or kent..
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby The Stig on Thu May 12, 2011 9:33 am

stop the wise cracks rsfiestaturbo.

i.ve read through this thread, and from what i read, you have no clue what you are doing, your taking advice from people that don't know what there doing also.
you have come on here and asked for help and advice and you have been given it time and time again, yet you ignore it.......
Adam, the man that built this car and knows everything there is to know about it, and more than anyone else does, is trying to help and advise you, yet you STILL argue the toss and come back with what i see as insults..

i will tell you also, the CVH engine has 1 CAMSHAFT! and 1 only, the pictures used on sites are mainly standard stock pictures, i.e. its a standard picture used (mostly to make something look more appealing) and not necessary of the item you are buying

back onto the car, you have been given all the help you need from very knowledgeable people on this board about how to go about checking and fixing your car and it is going in one ear and out the other with nothing in between to catch that information it seems, and i see this thread is going no where but round and round and if it carries on like it I'm going to lock it.

i really do hope its not going to be the end of this car, but if you keep listening to these people that are "fixing" you car it will be, and at this rate, I'm sure given another month the engine will be completely f**cked and i shall look out for the for sale thread for when you break it for spares, just be sure to add prices and read the seller rules please

on a more serious note, please take the advise from the people that are trying to help, the more this goes on, the more their likely to get pi$$ed off and not help anymore
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby rsfiestaturbo on Thu May 12, 2011 1:18 pm

lol ok chill gosh!!!! look i see merchanic's who worked on these car's in th 80's 90's even when they where brand new so dont u think my head is abit stressed by people tell me one and other then looks like having a go at me... i only joined this site to join with my ford fiesta RS Turbo, yes i came for help... i am on standby im just waiting for friday when it is booked in GT Motorsport http://www.gtmotorsport.co.uk/ mark told me and he sounds a decent chap he will not say it will need this or that intill he has seen it. and i agree... there is no tapping anymore and sound's kinda normal now the engine... but ad is most prob right u drive it chew it up, thats why it isnt being moved intill it gos there... fingers crossed cam is in great condition if not and he say it needs replacing then so it dos... i bin trying find a merchanic i can relie on with this engine i dont need for other thing's just the engine... because of spec.... up to yet as u know not fount a decent one yet lol he is charging me £130 to put sump on proper as the last merchanic it leaks or drips a cap full in like 5 mins and still not gd... yes adam has give me more advice on what is n the engine cause he was the one who made... if the person i brought it off told me this i would off had about £1.500 cash extra spent on it.. this is how much it has cost me now with this kit... dont want to add it all up what i payed for this car only 2 week ago... my misses ready kill me looool

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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby rsfiestaturbo on Thu May 12, 2011 1:30 pm

i forgot to mention is there a secret way to get in the car? lol if the battery ran out then there is noway get in unless there is a secret place to get in it???
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby jayrs on Thu May 12, 2011 5:48 pm

your not gunna be hated mate, dont take offence to it, but you dont know anything about cars do ya, and your just confussed with the advice being given.
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby rsfiestaturbo on Thu May 12, 2011 10:33 pm

yeah mate i have respect for car's and i do know alot about them.. sorry if i come across i dont! not long had this car and catchin up on what is on it or is in the engine etc... im not a merchanic no i dont have the grades so carnt class myself as 1 but if i was i would do a proper job... anyway she is booked in tomo just gave her a clean inside and out and cover back on her lol she is sounding great but dont trust drivin her intill... how lonf u recon takes to replace kit? i doubt it will be done tomo but the sump will be.. he said if the kit needs replacing then he will sort it but wont be on the day cause i said to him im looking for one... if it dosnt take long do it i might just hang around till he has done it... i mean the cam kit... some reason i dont trust merchanics nomore so hopefully tomo i fount myself a decent one! btw still no answer on the is there a secret get in the car if the battery went lol also went to scrap yard to get a dorr handle as the clip to mine has fell off who ever did it was a dodgy little glue job :rolleyes: i looked at escort mk2 3 and fiesta mk3 4 and 5 and none of the door handle clip off so what the hell is the door andle on this... ad?????????
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Postby jayrs on Thu May 12, 2011 10:46 pm

cam kit should only be a hour job mate.

door handle look like a pug one to me
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Postby rsfiestaturbo on Thu May 12, 2011 11:25 pm

i guess will have to wait for ad to return and let us know which door handle he fitted on it.. if carnt fint out id just take it off completly fix another one.. :lol:
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby MAD_Adamski on Thu May 12, 2011 11:37 pm

audi A6 handle the handle was fitted perfectly by my bodyshop so what was done to it after i dont know!? If you need to get in the car you attach a jumper to the battery to get the fob to work thats what i always did...
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby rsfiestaturbo on Fri May 13, 2011 12:16 am

i doubt id get one of those and i be checking every ford for another audi a6 door handle on a ford lol id just have to put a ford back on to it... i might get rid of the cossy K&N filter its huge takes up all the space for the battery cause battery is in the boot with the pety tank but it is coverd with carpet so wont touch metal. it was in the bck seat's ive put seat belts back in it and back seats and parcell shelff and parshall shelf holders didnt have the right front window plastic skirts inside which i have now most prob cause was the mk5? was poppin out and looked a mess, it just needs the plastic skit below door which runs up to the dash i brought some today of a mk3 fieasta l reg and got home tried put on and realised s**t it was a 5 door and front doors are bigger on 3 door nvm lol :rolleyes: u reckon there be to much air gettin in with the cossy filter on it? it is only a 1.6 really and is fast bad thing about these fiesta's is they missing a gear cause last gear doing 60 mph u hear whistle constintly so is missing 6th gear! i defo need to do something bout that gear stick it is so low u need to stretch sometimes and puts of alot. too much trouble to fit a new bar i recon.... i was told it was most prob chopped cause he said people sometimes like to chop them, i think car would benifit with a bigger gear stick.. i only see audi and mazda etc on ebay for gear knob extender...
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby MAD_Adamski on Fri May 13, 2011 2:04 am

to be honest wayne its hard to know what your talking about your descriptions are all over the place lacking pictures and there is no gaps between subjects its hard to know what your talking about...!?
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby rsfiestaturbo on Fri May 13, 2011 2:52 am

i know so much to say or do lol not sure how to post pictures on this forums im new to forums.
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby rsfiestaturbo on Fri May 13, 2011 10:04 am

hi the chap spost done car today they say he is on a stag doo i was shocked car all ready at 9am as he asked. so im going to a different one.. i was woundering if burton sump gasket is as good as the original ford sump gasket?? waiting for your reply also one supply said no garentee so i thought sack that... do burton do garentee? tried ring carnt get through just keeps ringing...
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby jayrs on Fri May 13, 2011 10:25 am

get a payen gasket, most motor factors should stock them or can get them.
payen make the gaskets for ford (inc the turbo head gasket which is a lot cheaper then ford sell it for :wink: ) so if you get a payne one, your getting basicly a "ford one"
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Postby rsfiestaturbo on Fri May 13, 2011 10:30 am

any idear where to get 1 from?
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Postby rsfiestaturbo on Fri May 13, 2011 12:07 pm

these gaskets are a payeeeeeennnnn in the arse get lol
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Re: rs fiesta tapping

Postby MAD_Adamski on Fri May 13, 2011 12:13 pm

just go to any motor factors tell them you want a sump gasket or what ever it is you need and tell them what car its for, they will have it on the shelf! As said before use bond and bond a small amount on the sump then put the gasket on then a small amount on the gasket then refit but do not over tighten..... Very easy to do the hardest part is moving the exhaust etc out the way..
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