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by **heeman10** on Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:59 am

And have you tried Turbo Technics? It seems weird to me they couldn't supply them :-?

Calling Honeywell you're getting right through to the top, so at worst they'll give you a guaranteed supplier's contact details.

by **ianFRST** on Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:24 pm

** 7.9.06**

finally got all the bits i needed to finish the T3 conversion, so todays job was to fit it all, fit the exhaust, and get it started

for the 1st time in nearly 2 years, the car sports a complete exhaust system

sneaky pic of the new recon turbo

the car started 1st time after we primed the turbo

with no rattling or anything, which i was impressed about, seeing as its been stood for 4 weeks or so.

and now for the bad bit

got the car started, manifold smoked as you expect when you dirty hands over it etc, but sadly the turbo never stopped smoking

switch off, have a look about, and find this underneath :cry:

as you can see, thats the reason why it didnt stop smoking

it looksl ike its leaking form that bolt, HOPEFULLY thats all it is, else it will have to come off again

think ill just insure it, and burn it :rolleyes:

by **heeman10** on Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:45 pm

Bummer dude, who bolted the turbo together? Good that the engine all started up and ran fine though

You still haven't put my bloody brake fluid reservoir on there, not happy! Everything else looks spot on!

by **ianFRST** on Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:35 pm

james james james, its on the next thing to do list :lol:

the cars still not road worthy, but when it is, the brakes will be bled properly, and yes, your nicer than mine reservoir will go on

yes i was plesently surprised with the engine - but i did swap the top inlet over. if you see my other pics, it had a black powder coated inlet, but for some reason, where the black pipe from the brake servo goes into the side of the inlet, it was kinda leaking air. so i thought id do a straight swap for my other one, and its sorted the air leak, and the idle is now perfect, and the revs dont stick

by **Excursion** on Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:47 pm

Give it time mate, metal to metal joins sometimes take a litle while to seal. How long did you leave it running for?

by **ianFRST** on Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:20 am

Excursion :Give it time mate, metal to metal joins sometimes take a litle while to seal. How long did you leave it running for?

till the fan cut in 3 times or so. so i guess a good half hour? maybe a bit more

sent a picture to who rebuilt it, and he says take it off and send it back to him so he can inspect it :cry:

by **Excursion** on Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:23 am

ianFRST :till the fan cut in 3 times or so. so i guess a good half hour? maybe a bit more

sent a picture to who rebuilt it, and he says take it off and send it back to him so he can inspect it

Hmm so it's definitely oil then and not just a bit of carbon coloured water! Who built the Turbo?

by **rob pace** on Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:43 pm

let me know the outcome ian of what was wrong. im going tonstart on mine next week!

good luck matey :wink:

by **ianFRST** on Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:04 pm

will be removed and sent off tomorrow hopefully, and then stripped down in the week sometime, he will then let me know whats happened to it, and then rebuild it for me, i hope.

ill keep you informed :cry:

by **ianFRST** on Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:58 pm

right well this afternoon, i stripped it all down again :cry:

i was going to do what excusrion said, and run the car for a bit longer, so i had a quick look under the turbo again, to see it has got worse

so i didnt bother running it, and juts cracked on with getting it off, as i expected, the turbo wouldnt come out with the rad in place, so it all had to come out :cry:

so it looks s**t again :rolleyes:

by **rob pace** on Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:03 pm

great ive got all this to come ian

, hopefully start on sunday/monday!

are you breathers, crank not blocked at all?

turbo technics did mention about the oil return (mine is old) and about the pressure from the uprated exhaust i have.

rob

by **ianFRST** on Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:05 pm

no mate, not blocked. was all cleaned when i removed the engine to put it in this one.

by **rob pace** on Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:10 pm

ianFRST :no mate, not blocked. was all cleaned when i removed the engine to put it in this one.

oh yeah did you remember to prime it? :lol:

bet your pissed off mate, i know i am!

cant believe it was on exactly the same day as you.

well he said along the lines of upgrading to 2 piston rings in the turbo instead of 1 ring (excuse my mechanical talk here

) and it will cope a lot better from the back pressure of the exhaust, well along these lines anyway- it is £45 + VAT which seems reasonable.

rob

by **heeman10** on Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:17 pm

What exactly did they say about the backpressure relating to your aftermarket exhaust system? The backpressures should be lower if anything, just wondered how reduced backpressure would cause a leak like this :-?

TT have been very short-staffed today, I managed to get nowhere with my problem, and now have a sheared off bolt to resolve too.

Ian - I remove my turbo on the exhaust manifold, did you try that, rather than removing the turbo from the manifold?

by **rob pace** on Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:25 pm

heeman10 :What exactly did they say about the backpressure relating to your aftermarket exhaust system? The backpressures should be lower if anything, just wondered how reduced backpressure would cause a leak like this

TT have been very short-staffed today, I managed to get nowhere with my problem, and now have a sheared off bolt to resolve too.

that what i thought james, that there would be lower pressure with no centre box and 3" pipe, but he was sure it would cause higher pressure and seemed to be pointing the problem in this direction :-?

well he said send it back and they will check it over for me, also reccomended buying a new oil return which is £27.50 inc VAT.

by **ianFRST** on Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:49 pm

heeman10 :What exactly did they say about the backpressure relating to your aftermarket exhaust system? The backpressures should be lower if anything, just wondered how reduced backpressure would cause a leak like this

i dont have any baffles what so ever, just the back box, would that make any difference?

heeman10 :Ian - I remove my turbo on the exhaust manifold, did you try that, rather than removing the turbo from the manifold?

i didnt want to remove the manifold, as when we put the T2 on it before, 2 of the threads fooked, so had to helicoil them, i felt like it was tempting fate TOOOO much to have to remove the manifold :lol:

rob - by oil return, i presume you mean the thing that bolts to the underside of the turbo? why would that make any difference? its not a think piece of pipe that wouldnt get blocked is it, lol

by **rob pace** on Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:56 pm

ianFRST :
heeman10 :What exactly did they say about the backpressure relating to your aftermarket exhaust system? The backpressures should be lower if anything, just wondered how reduced backpressure would cause a leak like this

i dont have any baffles what so ever, just the back box, would that make any difference?

heeman10 :Ian - I remove my turbo on the exhaust manifold, did you try that, rather than removing the turbo from the manifold?

i didnt want to remove the manifold, as when we put the T2 on it before, 2 of the threads fooked, so had to helicoil them, i felt like it was tempting fate TOOOO much to have to remove the manifold

rob - by oil return, i presume you mean the thing that bolts to the underside of the turbo? why would that make any difference? its not a think piece of pipe that wouldnt get blocked is it, lol

yes to the underside of the turbo into the block/sump.

thats one of the first things he mentioned to me about the oil return (it can get blocked causing oil to come back up into the turbo unit), he noticed it looked old in the photos i e-mailed them. also the oil return is mentioned in my thread in general. however i do believe the t3 return is far better.

by **garyhurn77** on Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:03 am

bad news about the turbo i hope danny will sort it out for you!

on a plus point glad to see my rubber return hoses working well

fingerscrossed you get it sorted asap!

gary

by **ianFRST** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:08 pm

garyhurn77 :fingerscrossed you get it sorted asap!

ive got everything crossed mate :cry:

sent the turbo off on sat morning (£11.50 :aaah:

) so he should get it tuesday or wednesday, thursday at the absolute latest. dunno why i sent it parcel force :oops:

should have sent it through work, ait it would have got there tomorrow :rolleyes:

will update, when i know more

by **chris-fiesta** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:11 pm

good luck m8, hope it all gets sorted..

by **ianFRST** on Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:47 pm

**update 15.9.06**

got a pm on passionford regarding my turbo.....

the bearing failed. now im not sure which bit this is :lol:

but its beign repaired FOC and sent back to me asap.

he didnt have one in stock so is having to order one in, so hopefully tues / wed next week ill have it back rebuilt again

by **MarkRS2K** on Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:56 pm

good stuff, hope its not to costly for you?

by **heeman10** on Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:06 pm

Which bearing? Did he tell you why? That's the most important part - don't want to bolt everything back in only for it to happen again! :-?

My turbo's being sent back to me today, should be here on Monday - race you!

by **Excursion** on Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:16 pm

Ian, I'm sorry to hear, it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy ( :lol:

)

by **rob pace** on Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:17 pm

well ian, hopefully that will be the same problem for me, i have just sent him an e-mail at TT expalning that you have recieved the results of your problem. i havent had a chance to take it off due to my working hours but hopefully on monday.

hopefuly mine will be FOC as well, fingers crossed. :devil:

regards

rob.

by **heeman10** on Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:46 pm

Ian's wasn't from Turbo Technics :-?

by **ianFRST** on Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:38 pm

heeman10 :Which bearing? Did he tell you why? That's the most important part - don't want to bolt everything back in only for it to happen again! My turbo's being sent back to me today, should be here on Monday - race you!

no he didnt say which. all i got was....

the bearing housing has failed for some unknown reason

by **Superal** on Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:49 pm

One thing after another...will your car even make it onto the road again :lol:

by **ianFRST** on Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:34 pm

Superal :One thing after another...will your car even make it onto the road again

tell me about it :rolleyes:

and i cant honestly answer that question either :lol:

i HOPE one day :bonkers:

by **ianFRST** on Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:21 pm

got the turbo back today

still no real idea of what went wrong tho, but looking at the turbo its had a new bit :lol:

is that bit the bearing housing? where the oil feed, and the water feeds bolt to? :-?

by **heeman10** on Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:51 pm

Is it definitely all new, not just blasted off? It really can't have been right! Perhaps the bearing seats in the centre housing (that's what that part is btw...the centre housing and rotating assembly, or CHRA) itself were duff, not the seals themselves. That's promising!

Took mine out today and all is well, though it seemed down on power and more laggy than before. Might've been because I was running it without the dump valve for a change...hope it's not those damaged compressor fins!

Hurry up and get it back on the car, this time it'll be fine :aviator:

by **ianFRST** on Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:15 pm

heeman10 :Hurry up and get it back on the car, this time it'll be fine

fingers, legs, toes, everything i can cross is crossed :oops:

by **ianFRST** on Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:59 pm

**UPDATE, friday 29th***

well, fitted the turbo this morning, waitied for the rain to stop before trying it, primed it as per usual, and can you foooooooooooooooooooking believe it!!!!!!!!

it smokes even worse than last time

literally, i could tell straight away something was wrong, as the the smoke coming from the back of the exhaust was a real white, not like the condensation white, and when it lifted a bit higer, the smoke was blue, so had a look under neath and............

that is literally 2 minutes, IF THAT from starting the car to having a look and taking the picture

got a vid, but you cant see the smoke very well, but its smoking worse that last time from the actual turbo unit

I GIVE UP!!! i honestly 110% give up with the car, its fudgekin tug, im now gona get a crow bar and smash every single panel of the fudgekin thing

by **mike_wall15** on Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:36 pm

Maybe it's finally time you broke it and put the lot on ebay.........

....oh wait a minute, you're banned! :oops:

Seriously Ian, bad bad luck. It's just ashame you're so close to finishing it. Give it a few days so you can think about it, don't make any silly decisions in the heat of the moment :wink:

Chin up!

by **MarkRS2K** on Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:40 pm

cant you just send it back to who ever 'repaired' it?

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