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[fezzRS]

Fact t2 is better than t3 t2 spins faster no lag. And doesnt smash in to the rad

[rsturbonutter]

If you position your rad correctly it does not come anywhere near the rad I have about 3 inches from actuator to rad and it has never touched. There is very little lag compared to the t2. It can produce a higher volume of air than the t2 and holds it way past where the t2 tails off. Have you ever driven one with a t3 I know I would never go back to one mine holds 17psi to redline

[Fraggle]

TBH i had a T2 equipped one, it went like a scaulded cat, and for some strange reason chattered ALOT louder than my T3'd one did.

But the T3 does get up higher, there seems abit more refinement too in how it delivers its ooomph, T2 would just be on song, T3 likes to build, thus less torque steer in wet blah blah blah.

Gotta say though although i prefer the T3, FCUK i miss the T2

[fezzRS]

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[fezzRS]

[fezzRS]

Chatters louder than a tart lol

[jayrs]

Both have good and bad points IMO, depends what you want from it..

For me, the T2 does it all, I was a nippy fast car that's quick off the line and has decent punch through the midrange, and the T2 gives me that, more so on the isle of wight where the roads are short and any, err... non racing just normal daily driving.... Takes part on said short roads
However if I still lived on the mainland and done more distant driving and of corse the roads are longer and more potential for std non racing daily driving.... Then I think I would prob look more into a T3

That said though, when my T2 goes, and hopefully its not going to be for a very long time, I may well convert to the T3, but that would be based more on availability and cost

[fezzRS]

Exatly jay these days you can use the power of the t3 on the roads these days without a blue light being behind you personally i dont see the use a t3 would be to me anyway i dont drive above 70 mph and you by law are not allowed and tge t3 doesnt kick in until 3k i know because i had the white turbo t3 had sone lag compared to the t2 and if you have upfrades in the t2 to t28 internals is just as good

[jayrs]

Never had a hybrid T2 but I hear there good.
And i agree, I've seen off cossies and all sorts over here, running the T2, gave a saff cossies a good run for its money once but I topped out at, well I won't say, but he's turbo had more to go so he went past me and sailed on lol which I expected but I didn't expect to keep him in the other lane trying to get pass for as long as I did lol
Ah the good old days lol

Still I wouldn't snub the T3, yeah it comes in a bit later to the T2 but you can get more power from it, and as I said it depends what ya want from the car.
I was gunna built a full Zetec turbo engine when I done my rs up years back, the reason I didn't is because it wouldn't of suited me, where on this island could I enjoy the power that would give me... Wasn't worth it.

[Mattious]

How much is it to have a t2 internals upgraded to t28 internals , I asked around a few turbo specialist and they didn't seem to keen?.

[fezzRS]

[fezzRS]

turbo dynamics am the people you want to speak to matey

[Mattious]

I shall do that mate

[fezzRS]

they do stage 1 stage 2 stage 3 depending what you want id say 300 and your done

[andymac]

How much is it to have a t2 internals upgraded to t28 internals , I asked around a few turbo specialist and they didn't seem to keen?.

Wouldn't bother, T28 is same pattern and flange, depending on variant may need a oil feed restrictor (a few quid). Housings are different sizes (from memory) so not really an internal only upgrade.

Turbo technics and Turbo dynamics both have great reputations... http://www.fordpower.org.uk/nik/tt.html

Although a lot of people snub the T28, but it's a great compromise turbo (so is the t25, but the t28 generally offer same / similar spool up but more top-end gain). I think people play the numbers game in their head and think a t3 MUST be better than a t2 / t25 / t28...

[fezzRS]

only problem with the t3 is space in the bay if you've got a new rad its a risk of hitting the rad that's the only downfall and it spools later than the t2 but each to there own its what you want from the car and how the car is used motorway driving then t3 would be needed town driving like myself happy with the t2

[andymac]

Very true, don't know if that's true of other "smaller" turbos, though I'd have suggested moving the rad forward if at all possible can only be a good thing - getting some airflow around there will help reduce hotspots on the rad (not to mention putting a ruddy great hole in it if a mount fails suddenly) You can't beat a t2 for that instant low-down kick though.

I think a t28 would give similar top-end to a t3 but not be as impacting on bottom end, would feel much more like a t2. If I get round to doing anything with mine and swapping off the t25 I'll report back on performance, but the feedback I've had from others who've already done the swap is that, in a lot of cases, it feels like it spools up faster (more cfm air moved at lower end, perhaps) than a t25.

[jayrs]

A T25 or 28 I would consider, I do remember years ago when I transplanted a turbo technics engine into a mates xr2 for him it had a T25, in fact I drove the donor car back from bath, and was very impressed with the performance of the whole set up, the spool up time was quick, couldn't comment on top end as I didn't go flat out on way home but for the speed I done it was very good, worth looking into.

I could be wrong, but is t a T2 hybrid basicly similar to a T25/T28? Internal wise

[fezzRS]

I phoned turbo dynamics and they told me a t2 hybrid stage 2 3 is capable of 200 bhp so I assume they put bigger internal and they machine the inside to take the internals

[jayrs]

Dunno mate, I'm sure i looked into it when I was doing my rs when the turbo went, but tbh I can't remember anything about it, must be getting old! Lol

[Mattious]

Is there an available t25/28 that's out there ? Or is it something that needs to be built up ? .

[andymac]

Lots.

Nissans, rovers, saabs all use t25 / t28. Turbo technics had a couple on sale at £180 a while back.

MK1 FRS is a t28 too (It a GT2560 from memory, I'm sure Wayne'll correct me )

[Tweek]

It's a variation of the GT2560, a smaller version so it's a T25 standard. Loads upgrade it to a T28 though

[Mattious]

Escort cosworth small turbo has a t28 front? Could that be used?.