Question for the 200hp cvh lads
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Question for the 200hp cvh lads
Well chaps, ive takeing the rs off the road for the winter and am planing a major boost in power, i really want to break 200hp for next year, i want to build an engine capable of running 215-220hp but will run it at 200 for resinable reliability, my question is for all the lads running 200hp, whats your exact setup reguaring pistons rods, injectors turbos etc, are you running remapped chips or stand alone, also what company would you recommend for setting it up?
any recommendations or advice also greatly appreciated, thanks in advance guys! 


- Dave5300
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Re: Question for the 200hp cvh lads
Tbh mate and I cant believe in going too say this..
Id go zetec.
CVH too solidly run 220 is imop going too be all steel, going to be omex equipped,
Going too need a solid gearbox aaaaand some solid fueling supply.
220 were my plan but its all revs and no pull, torque is the lack with em
So id be building it for that rather than power.
Have a read/natter with Paul dolman in the members gallery as his is
Being built by jano OKC...its going to be a monster I bet
And what's this off road for winter bollox about?
Get out there an torque steer the s**t out of it

Id go zetec.
CVH too solidly run 220 is imop going too be all steel, going to be omex equipped,
Going too need a solid gearbox aaaaand some solid fueling supply.
220 were my plan but its all revs and no pull, torque is the lack with em
So id be building it for that rather than power.
Have a read/natter with Paul dolman in the members gallery as his is
Being built by jano OKC...its going to be a monster I bet
And what's this off road for winter bollox about?
Get out there an torque steer the s**t out of it

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Re: Question for the 200hp cvh lads
Mine ran at 196 with 13psi, standard pistons, arp bolts, lightened/balanced, head flowed-larger stainless inlet and exhaust valves, 3 angle seats with 4 angle on the valve, kent 35 cam, stage 3 t3, intercooled and charge cooled, would run more but I took it off the road before I ramped the boost up, wouldn't take it past 215-220 due to rods, oh and was running a unichip and never saw intake temps higher than 40oC (I think), and was on beige injectors but would really need changing to run more, and an uprated pump, fuel pressure was around 50psi.. personally I don't think I would change from the cvh-but I may stick the 16v cvh head on it at some point

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Re: Question for the 200hp cvh lads
snake :Mine ran at 196 with 13psi, standard pistons, arp bolts, lightened/balanced, head flowed-larger stainless inlet and exhaust valves, 3 angle seats with 4 angle on the valve, kent 35 cam, stage 3 t3, intercooled and charge cooled, would run more but I took it off the road before I ramped the boost up, wouldn't take it past 215-220 due to rods, oh and was running a unichip and never saw intake temps higher than 40oC (I think), and was on beige injectors but would really need changing to run more, and an uprated pump, fuel pressure was around 50psi.. personally I don't think I would change from the cvh-but I may stick the 16v cvh head on it at some point
16v cvh head ????
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Re: Question for the 200hp cvh lads
Hes got one of the 16v development heads rare as rocking horse s**t
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Re: Question for the 200hp cvh lads
I wan't even aware they existed!!
What is typical kind of power output for a frst on a T3 with beiges, 195 chip, fmic? Just as i'm looking around and I want to know what kind of power you can get from standard internals safely? Personally I would prefer to keep the frst with a cvh as it was intended just make it better.
Olly
What is typical kind of power output for a frst on a T3 with beiges, 195 chip, fmic? Just as i'm looking around and I want to know what kind of power you can get from standard internals safely? Personally I would prefer to keep the frst with a cvh as it was intended just make it better.
Olly

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Re: Question for the 200hp cvh lads
Its the rods that let go first at around 220bhp, but it all depends what torque your putting through it, mine did go silly and reved past 7500 but there is no point as the power drops off badly, apart from that the pistons are good. Its all down to setting it up. You can keep going until you either don't have enough fuel or the intake temps go to high-either will melt a piston. The chip is the limit as it cannot cater for modifications, so if the heads been worked on and the 195 map is for a standard engine then it will not run correctly.

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Re: Question for the 200hp cvh lads
oh and google cvh 16v, their has been some discussions about this, and yes I have the head, cams, followers, valves, manifolds-everything to build it, I also have the bottom end mated to this-runs with different con rods and fully floating pistons-all the cvh pistons were never fully floating. Have no info on the bottom end though so I have no idea if its been made by someone or it was a full ford prototype lump, in fact I haven't looked at it in over 10 years lol, its sat in boxes 

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Re: Question for the 200hp cvh lads
you have a 16v cvh head in boxes
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Re: Question for the 200hp cvh lads
A genuine 200+ Bhp Cvh would be
Uprated Rods and Pistons (low Comp)
Some sort of head work Port and Polished.
Uprated Cam
Stg2 or 3 T3
Uprated Fuel Pump (Escort Cossie)
Uprated injectors depending what management your going to run Standard with 'Chip' Beiges they maxed out around 200bhp Other management all sorts of options.
Front Mount
Uprated Rods and Pistons (low Comp)
Some sort of head work Port and Polished.
Uprated Cam
Stg2 or 3 T3
Uprated Fuel Pump (Escort Cossie)
Uprated injectors depending what management your going to run Standard with 'Chip' Beiges they maxed out around 200bhp Other management all sorts of options.
Front Mount

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Re: Question for the 200hp cvh lads
Ah right ok. Yea i'm quite aware of the management limitations of the chips just interested in what to expect from a pretty standard motor without going into having to rebuild with uprated internals as it gets silly expensive then as you well know!.
I have always wanted a frst and I have decided to look into getting one for a while just to get it out of my system really before going M3
and with me buying a house at the same time I don't want to have to spend too much but I want a decent power output to have some fun with.
Olly
I have always wanted a frst and I have decided to look into getting one for a while just to get it out of my system really before going M3
Olly

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Re: Question for the 200hp cvh lads
niracka :Ah right ok. Yea i'm quite aware of the management limitations of the chips just interested in what to expect from a pretty standard motor without going into having to rebuild with uprated internals as it gets silly expensive then as you well know!.
I have always wanted a frst and I have decided to look into getting one for a while just to get it out of my system really before going M3and with me buying a house at the same time I don't want to have to spend too much but I want a decent power output to have some fun with.
Olly
I would say a safe 180/190 bhp with high boost.... You will be surprised that power to weight ratio it will be more than enough to keep up with the M3....

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Re: Question for the 200hp cvh lads
Yea don't they weigh in at like 900kg or something?
I just know i'll end up spending an absolute fortune and start changing everything and uprating everything on the bloody thing
Can't wait!!
I just know i'll end up spending an absolute fortune and start changing everything and uprating everything on the bloody thing

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Re: Question for the 200hp cvh lads
Id love to keep the cvh for originality, my plans were wossner pistons, pec rods, arp bolts, acl bearings etc, airtec stage 2 front mount, t3, not quiet sure on injectors yet, was thinking the red saab injectors but not sure yet, already have a mongoose exhaust, uprated fuel pump, uprated cam and maybe some head work, and possibly use my current 165 chip but flash a new map on it for the new mods, would it be possible to break 200hp with the above setup? Cheers for the help chaps 


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Re: Question for the 200hp cvh lads
rsturbonutter :Hes got one of the 16v development heads rare as rocking horse s**t
He's knows when he does the boys from Boreham will want words
Too old and too bald.
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