Fiesta tufbos going up again

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Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby fezzRS on Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:17 pm

Just looked on ebay every frst on there people want 4k or 4500
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby ben26 on Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:28 pm

Not many about now ! They can only go up in price
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby Turboboy67 on Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:12 pm

What people want and what people actually get can be completely different.
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby fezzRS on Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:20 pm

Ppl want is because that is what that car is worth how many people i dont care who they am they say they want a stamdard frst and buy one and change stuff its a fact that it happens people changing stuff on them to make them look how they wany it to look
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby MK2 Jamie on Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:13 pm

Carbonboy67 :What people want and what people actually get can be completely different.


Beat me to it. People always over value their cars, especially when it comes to RS cars. Some of the prices people are asking on Ebay are madness.
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby jayrs on Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:27 am

But them prices help as evidence when it come to getting a high agreed valuation :lol:

But yeah, people do over value them, example, I have a £6k agreed value on my RS, I will get that if its written off etc, but if I sold it, I would be more towards the £4k mark I reckon
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby fezzRS on Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:56 am

I remeber when people would not pay 700 for them 12 years ago now they are foing up and will go up even more over the years people breaking theres up but guaranteed they will all want one again and by then they will only be a few lefy
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby rs_fiesta on Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:44 pm

fezzRS :I remeber when people would not pay 700 for them 12 years ago now they are foing up and will go up even more over the years people breaking theres up but guaranteed they will all want one again and by then they will only be a few lefy

Not too sure about that,when i was looking 10 year ago top end cars were £4000+.
Couldnt believe how many i went to look at that were dodgy and had been nicked or crashed.
The white one on ebay has a deposit on and i dont think thats been on a week yet,for sale at £4300 iirc.
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Postby SEG1 on Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:09 pm

I been seeing a few for lot of money, the fresh black one for 12k was madness.

How much do you think a moondust Frst will go for these day. 300+ bhp?
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby rs_fiesta on Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:40 am

All depends on condition,silver ones although the rarest colour arnt really worth any more than a normal frst colour imo.
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Postby SEG1 on Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:21 am

rs_fiesta :All depends on condition,silver ones although the rarest colour arnt really worth any more than a normal frst colour imo.


Well again it will just come down to what someone is willing to pay really.

But I'm sure someone would be willing to pay more for a rarer colour and the fact that there is only a few on road, and that it's the best colour you can get. Just says it all.

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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby rs_fiesta on Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:42 am

Its my least favourite colour in them but,ive never seen a totally standard one,those cars will be worth the money
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Postby SEG1 on Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:32 am

rs_fiesta :Its my least favourite colour in them but,ive never seen a totally standard one,those cars will be worth the money


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Typical red Frst owner comment there. Lol

Red is my least favourite colour.
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Postby tompeteRS on Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:42 am

Standard, original, mint and unmolested cars are going up in value, it's a similar story for most Classic and Performance Fords.

Poorly restored and modified cars aren't seeing such big increases in value. What cars are actually changing hands for is a different matter and if it wasn't for the state of our economy/wages not keeping up with inflation prices would be much higher.
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Postby SEG1 on Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:58 am

Cars are worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

And that's the bottom line because the rock said so.
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Postby rs_fiesta on Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:12 pm

tompeteRS :Standard, original, mint and unmolested cars are going up in value, it's a similar story for most Classic and Performance Fords.

Poorly restored and modified cars aren't seeing such big increases in value. What cars are actually changing hands for is a different matter and if it wasn't for the state of our economy/wages not keeping up with inflation prices would be much higher.

Correct,just look at some mk1/2 escorts,crazy money for completely rotten cars!
The fully restored or original needing restoring(but you know what your buying with no hidden bodged up before jobs)cars are whare the real money is
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby tompeteRS on Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:55 pm

Spot on rs_fiesta, there have been a few original cars that have been advertised recently that have really floated my boat. With a minor bit of tinkering and replacement of a few parts that are still obtainable (brake fluid reservoirs, header tank etc) you could end up with a very good car which you would see a good return on. You don't quite get the satisfaction if you buy a fully restored car as you can't really improve it and we all like a project to tinker with!
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Postby fezzRS on Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:17 pm

rs_fiesta :Its my least favourite colour in them but,ive never seen a totally standard one,those cars will be worth the money


A frst is a frst does not matter the colour pal
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Postby MK2 Jamie on Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:52 pm

Colour does matter, as moondust silver is rare and generally red RS Turbos go for more money than other colours bar moondust silver of course. Not a great deal more though, but it go to show colour does matter.
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Postby rs_fiesta on Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:43 pm

tompeteRS :Spot on rs_fiesta, there have been a few original cars that have been advertised recently that have really floated my boat. With a minor bit of tinkering and replacement of a few parts that are still obtainable (brake fluid reservoirs, header tank etc) you could end up with a very good car which you would see a good return on. You don't quite get the satisfaction if you buy a fully restored car as you can't really improve it and we all like a project to tinker with!

Correct,just look at some of the mk1/2 escorts that are being restored,some low mileage cars that are original that need restoring eventually needing a full respray still go for good money.
This is probably my panel beater head talking but id rather buy an original honest car that needs restoring(meaning the odd rust patch) than a car that looks mint but has filler hiding everything!
Like i said these were being bodged up 10 year ago when i looked,lost count of how many had already had front ends and panel gaps you could service the engine through lol
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Postby rs_fiesta on Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:55 pm

This looks nice,only seen it on the phone mind
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby tom9876 on Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:03 pm

I no of a few that have been up for sale for strong money and have sold for half the asking price .
But the more that are broke up the less there are so value will increase . Look at racing pumas a few years ago
You could buy one for £2500 -£3000 but would break up for alot more . Now there £4-5000 again
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby fezzRS on Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:07 pm

But i think a buyer would appreciate a chrome engine bay and if its kept clean i think a fiesta rs turbo could fetch a good amountvof money it shows the buyer you loved your frst instead of bokting bigger turbos on and cammed it if i was to sell mine a big if i would put a good amount on because its what it owes mevand if the buyer said why you chromed it for i said because i like a clean nice engine bay and then it shows that you have looked after the car it depends on appearence of the car they see a standard bay and think either thrashed or unsure they see a dressed up bay they think blimeu hes put in sonetinr into that
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby fezzRS on Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:10 pm

tom9876 :I no of a few that have been up for sale for strong money and have sold for half the asking price .
But the more that are broke up the less there are so value will increase . Look at racing pumas a few years ago
You could buy one for £2500 -£3000 but would break up for alot more . Now there £4-5000 again


Mine is going for a full under body resto soon so if i was to sell mine i know what i would gave to put on it to get amount back but yer i got mine valued a neally 6k
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby rs_fiesta on Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:43 am

fezzRS :But i think a buyer would appreciate a chrome engine bay and if its kept clean i think a fiesta rs turbo could fetch a good amountvof money it shows the buyer you loved your frst instead of bokting bigger turbos on and cammed it if i was to sell mine a big if i would put a good amount on because its what it owes mevand if the buyer said why you chromed it for i said because i like a clean nice engine bay and then it shows that you have looked after the car it depends on appearence of the car they see a standard bay and think either thrashed or unsure they see a dressed up bay they think blimeu hes put in sonetinr into that

Sorry mate but have to dissagree on that one,if someone sees a blinged up engine bay with chrome and samco hoses theres more chance of that being thrashed than a standard car.
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby fezzRS on Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:00 pm

Howdo you come to that conclusion lol the bodywork will show if a car has been thrashed i bet mine is worth 4500 it owes me alot more and thats never been trashed
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Postby rs_fiesta on Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:34 pm

fezzRS :Howdo you come to that conclusion lol the bodywork will show if a car has been thrashed i bet mine is worth 4500 it owes me alot more and thats never been trashed

Really?
My dads 106 rallye rallycar has been thrashed through many a forest/rough track and hasnt been sprayed and is better than a lot of road car versions ive seen.So how can bodywork show if a car has been thrashed lol,unless its been crashed.

Chromed engine bay,samcos,boost wound up,beige injectors,msd chip etc or a standard car,i would put my last pound on the fact the modified one had a harder life!
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Postby RS EDDIE on Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:09 pm

Sorry to say but my unbiased opinion is that standard looking unmolested car in all ford genres are fetching the money, as these standard parts are probably getting to be rarer than chrome and samco hoses etc.

Put it this way, if i were to go out tommorow and try to source new standard gear for the fiesta rs turbo, id have alot more grief than say, going straight to bailey, samco and the like and ordering those bits.

I know its down to personal preference, but in MY opinion, chrome has seen its day, and the rarer a car becomes, the more people will swarm around it looking at new NLA parts.

As for the thrashed part of it, a low owner car with maturer owner tends to be the less thrashed, as the older the person the less inclined they are to like "Traffic light Grand Prixs"

Did you not say in another thread that you was thinking of taking £700 for youres??( might have read it wrong!)

As for colour, i dont know if it makes a difference.. If i see a rare silver one which was ropey as fook, would i buy that over a mint fresh white, red or grey one??.....NO!!!

On the other hand, if there were all four colour cars, all with say 10k miles and all similar condition, would a dealer say, put varying prices on all four???......
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby fezzRS on Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:32 pm

Some standard parts are crap radiator s**t doesnt flow enough look at the intercooler load of crap restricted better the rad cooler the engine my standard radiator when it was on the gauge was near the r now better radiator its below the m even on hot days so tell me whats better a20 year old gummed ip rad or alloy rad personal preference but my opnion standard bay looks boring crap thats why i gone my root ive even got rs turbo fans live by me smd they say it looks superb so tell me how are you going to keep it up once the standard crap has gone and your parts break down sorry to say but samco hoses piss over standard pipes alot more tougher abd boost hoses samco uprated stuff is the future now for fiesta turbos better technology i know what i prefer
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby fezzRS on Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:39 pm

Only problem with grey its tough to get a shine like you can from black and red my opnion red and black am the best colours for me imagine if they did a frst in imperial blue that would be my choice again but i like black rs turbos best colour for frst for me and white is the nuts

Did u see that 20000 mile frst on ebay totally original i missed out on it couple years sgo it was a red one if one does cone ip like that again id pay 7k for it looked the nuts
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby fezzRS on Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:45 pm

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fezzRS :Howdo you come to that conclusion lol the bodywork will show if a car has been thrashed i bet mine is worth 4500 it owes me alot more and thats never been trashed

Really?
My dads 106 rallye rallycar has been thrashed through many a forest/rough track and hasnt been sprayed and is better than a lot of road car versions ive seen.So how can bodywork show if a car has been thrashed lol,unless its been crashed.

Chromed engine bay,samcos,boost wound up,beige injectors,msd chip etc or a standard car,i would put my last pound on the fact the modified one had a harder life!



Mate depends how much boost how much power but if setup properly theres no issues no more than that of a standard cvh buy chrome and blue bays looks awsome to me finishes a car off whatever choice you make i know my cossie leathers am alot better than standard aeats a ball ache to fit but i did it and uprated parts are alot better than standard last longer frst bottom arms crap drop links vrap fail after so many years snd i bet jay will back me on this i had many fiesta that kept going through bottom arms because thee s**t rose jointed arms and drop links no issues so tell me would you prefer to put money on standard crap that fails or uprated stuff that lasts alot longer and saves you money
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby Fraggle on Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:55 pm

RIGHT fraggle time... :lol: :wink:

1st white is the best colour end of.

Now that thats sorted..
This ultimately comes down to value..both of what its worth as a "car" and what price "condition" is worth to someone over say OE spec...

Mine is undergoing what can only be described as a SERIOUS rust hunt atmo, there is no way im bolting anything on till im 100% sure its all found and gone.

Now ive stripped all the underseal/SEAM SEALER and stone chip inc rear arch's/legs... the LOT BACK TO BARE METAL.

Now this alone would probs cost you £500 to have a body shop do "IF" it were a bare shell to start with, f-k knows how much if not...
Point is it'll be rust free, now is that worth the money that'd be put on the sale price for the works done,over say a Genuine unmolested car, with potential hidden horrors?
As at end of day only way to be sure of rust free is a complete strip back, and how many of the Original oe parts are gonna survive being removed..even samco's prefer a fit once life lol.

Now if/when mines done baring in mind it'll HAVE to be modified as i cannot justify/afford/find Pure OE parts, do it mean that its worth less due to no OE stickers an the like?
Well to me NO as at end of day condition/honesty would be paramount over spec...
but mine will have as many seperating bits as poss such as the strips which lbh are really the only thing that set a frst apart from the rest, well kit/wheels an vents i suppose :lol:

she be what i call OE-DIFIED, as an OE rad hose aint my thing as no OE rad lol...but there be no chrome though!! :P

So hopefully that'll be the best of both worlds for me and to me thats worth 10k, but to say someone like Edd its 5k as he is a OE man...

See one manys cheddar is anothers edam, and i'd buy on condition/quality over originality and to me thats worth 9k over say an OE one at 8k with no "proven" solidarity...

But is the 20k ive spent worth 25 to someone over a 10k OE car...im gonna struggle... :lol:
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby tom9876 on Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:24 am

Everyone saying about not thrashing them lol . Everyone at some point will give it death its the same with any performance car . At the end of the day that is what they are for . Yes you look after them and make them nice but when you are out you do push them .
All part of owning one . I do think at the mo there is a big price difference between a good one and a crap one theres not much middle ground at the mo .
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby fezzRS on Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:38 pm

Exatly my point tom i dont care what they say even standard have bedn thrShed to hell even standRd guaranteed they have turned the boost up with chip
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Re: Fiesta tufbos going up again

Postby rs_fiesta on Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:15 pm

^^^^^^^ Whats this guy on!!! pimsle
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