diary of a zetec turbo build - ENGINE FINISHED! 20-05

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diary of a zetec turbo build - ENGINE FINISHED! 20-05

Postby xrsi on Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:38 pm

As some of you may have realised i am now going to ditch the 1.6 CVH turbo in favor of a full blown 2ltr zetec turbo.

I have been wanting to do it for about a year but funds and time constraints have held me back, also the fact i paid so much to have the CVH built has also been making me think twice..... This is part of the reason why i have delayed and not done anything with the MTX conversion for some time as i have wanted to finalise what i wanted from the fista before i pushed on and im glad i did!

Anyways last week in a fit of madness i managed to win a series 3 blacktop bottom end For the mere sum of £30 so then the hunt was on for a cylinder head....
Ebay then came up trumps again and managed to find a cylinder head for £25... Result.

Anyways my mate did me a favor and went and picked up the bargain bottom end, i was expecting it to have done a million and one miles and be an idea start to have alot of work done on it.....

Anyways i will let the pictures do the talking!

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As you can see the bottom end hasnt done alot of work at all, it still has the factory honing marks! :D Absolut bargain for what i paid... Just waiting for the head to arrive and then main bit of work will start!

Oh would just like to add, this wont be a quick build by any means either! :lol:
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build.

Postby MattPym on Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:04 pm

Bargain mate, Considering it took me 4 weeks of searching and cost €3450 for mine :( Still like yours, it was in excellent condition :aviator:

Good work mate, keep us informed on the way
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build.

Postby jayrs on Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:53 am

nice touch mate, and a good price really.
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build.

Postby Excursion on Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:37 pm

Zetec's wear very, very well. You can't complain for £25, good find!
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build.

Postby xrsi on Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:53 pm

mark - head was £25, bottom end was £30

Incidentally the head has turned up today, bloke delivered it for me! :D

so wasted no time in test fitting it on the bottom end so it covers the bores and also so it looks more complete.

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Also made a couple more ebay buys, a brand new ford rocker cover gasket and a plastic thermostat housing both costing less than £10 delivered! :D
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - inspection 12/2

Postby xrsi on Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:53 pm

Had a spare hour this afternoon so have has a quick inspection of the bottom end and started to strip it ready to have the machining done for it to be a zetec turbo.

I still really cant believe how much of a bargain i have had with this bottom end, it is all like new in it.

Will let the pictures speak for themselves.

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The best bit is that i have had a good look over the water and oil pumps and they again are like new so i dont think i am going to replace them, will give them a quick clean and that will be all!
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - inspection 12/2

Postby Excursion on Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:38 am

That hasn't done much work has it!
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - inspection 12/2

Postby purple_fiesta on Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:57 am

Certainly does look new :o 8)
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - inspection 12/2

Postby Smo on Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:58 pm

Nice going with that!

I remember opening up my one and finding it all nice like that :D
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - inspection 12/2

Postby H41-NSF on Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:28 pm

you baxtered it was you that outbid me, engine looks mint i only put a small bid in cos i didnt think it would get any interest
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - inspection 12/2

Postby xrsi on Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:58 pm

always on the hunt for bargains mate, gotta get up early to beat me ;)

oh and if its any consolation, it will be put to good use :D with all the right bits in it, no cheap build here, well when i say no cheap build i mean no components that arent meant to be alot of money :P

Sorry is that rubbing it in a bit much :lol:
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - inspection 12/2

Postby xrsi on Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:58 pm

Well my steel H section eagle rods arrived today thanks to a mate picking them up for me while he was down in london! :D

very very pleased to say the least that i managed to get these for the price i did and not have to worry about importing them, it has worked out same price but just alot less hassle and worry about them getting lost or damaged.

Also took a couple of pics of the other parts that i have amassed over the last 12 months for the mtx75 conversion that were going to be fitted to my CVH but are now going on the zetec turbo! :D

So here are the bits

Eagle rods with ARP bolts
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Helix 6 paddle one off clutch kit to fit focus zetec flywheel
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Fidanza focus zetec flywheel (will get a better pic tomorrow)
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Rover turbo k16 inlet (again needs a better photo)
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Also yesterday my brand new ford rocker cover gasket and my thermostat housing arrived. All of these parts so far have been sourced off ebay apart from clutch!

The components for the build are really starting to build up, as soon as i find some reasonably priced pistons i will get the ARP stud kits shipped over from the USA and get the machine work sorted on the bottom end!
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - parts arriving quickly 14/2

Postby jayrs on Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:06 pm

nice touch mate :Q
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - parts arriving quickly 14/2

Postby Smo on Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:53 am

Looking good :) Jealous of some of those bits you have there :lol:

What size clutch does that flywheel take?
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - parts arriving quickly 14/2

Postby Ollybee on Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:07 am

That engine looks mint, why can't I find bargains like that!
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - parts arriving quickly 14/2

Postby xrsi on Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:46 pm

i search ebay all the time for bargains and choose carefully thats how i manage to get bits, i always set myself a sensible limit as ewll on the going rate that i can get them from else where, a certain element of luck does come into it tho :D and sometimes people not always putting the correct description.

as far as i can remember the clutch is a 238mm on a focus, yeah have got some tasty little bits for the engine which in all honesty are not needed but good to have at this stage rather than wanting to do it again after its built and installed in the car and not be happy with it!

gotta get some more buits then i can have the machine work done ready for it to be built up and mounts sorted for the black top and mtx gearbox, may try a dummy install with just the bare block of this engine and an empty gearbox case i have sat in my lean to to get the rough position of the mounts over the weekend, will see how things go! :D
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - parts arriving quickly 14/2

Postby xrsi on Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:47 pm

bit of a small update again today after having a couple of hours spare and not feeling too bad i managed to get some more work done on the bottom end and also picked up a focus engine mount to see how much work will need to be done to mount it using the single mount.

This is what i got, all for the mere sum of £10

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The block i got didnt come with the water pump pulley, so thats what the random pulley in the pic is, got that as well for the £10

So set about mounting the water pump and block part of the mount on to make sure everything is ok then set about removing the pistons and rods then the crank.

Only thing left inside the engine is the oil spray jets as i dont have a female torx socket small enough so will have to get one of those in the morn.

Couple of pictures showing the progress.

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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - bottom end update 16/2

Postby Excursion on Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:44 pm

Nice.

Well easy to mount it with the single mount mate. I had some 10mm sheet bent to bolt to the chassis leg and to the bottom of the mount.

If you're leaving the Alternator at the back of the engine you'll need to modify the chassis a little.
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - bottom end update 16/2

Postby xrsi on Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:57 pm

i dont have the alternator mount at mo, should of bloody got that but didnt think about it at the time...

Might go for a front mounted alt but will prob leave it rear mounted as then everything is as it should be for the engine, although it would be harder it change it should it break with the inlet being there.

Any chance you have a pic of the mount arrangement you used / made?
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - bottom end update 16/2

Postby Excursion on Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:16 pm

Unfortunately not mate, this was back in '99 before I had a digital camera :(

I've got a mountain of pics to scan but don't have the time atm.
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - bottom end update 16/2

Postby xrsi on Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:29 am

no worries mate, the mount is the least of my worries at the moment by the looks of things as the whole combination of the focus RS mtx75 box and the black top looks slightly too wide so will have to have both legs modified! :(
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - bottom end update 16/2

Postby xrsi on Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:15 pm

quick update - basically it has just sat on the stand stripped for the last 10 days as i am still trying to work out the best place to get pistons from that are reasonably priced as the one placei found doent do free shipping to the uk (even tho the site says free shiping on orders over $150 and they also charge 5% extra if you pay be credit card, which i always do if im importing items just for an extra bit of safety.

however the other day my brand new boxed gates cambelt kit arrived and also just managed to pick up a set of ARP main studs for £36 posted! bargain.

so as soon as the pistons are ordered and arrive the build can commence.

i said it wouldnt be a quick build but its moving along quicker than i thought it would!
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - boring update 26/2

Postby xrsi on Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:22 pm

another quick update...

well still aint ordered the pistons as im still undecided but the ARP main studs arrived this morning so that is one less thing that needs sorting.

so got a quick pic of the latest buys.
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Parts/item left to source/have done are as follows

ARP head studs
ARP flywheel bolts
ARP cam pulley bolts
Zetec - rover inlet adaption plate
Pistons (will prob go for JE)
All genuine ford gaskets for engine build apart from the rocker cover gasket
alternator mounting and aux belt to suit no power steering
Machining on bottom end and head
Build the engine :lol:

So still a fair bit to do but it is certainly coming along better than i thought it would
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - boring update 28/2

Postby xrsi on Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:15 pm

Well we can cross off the ARP head bolts, just managed to get myself a set as cheap as it would have been shipping them from the US!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230225341267&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=013

moving along nicely! :D
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - more ARP sourced 28/2

Postby reithy on Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:33 pm

Normally you use the mount off the fiesta si or zetecs for the alternator,

Have one if needed
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Postby xrsi on Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:40 pm

im using a black top not the silver top so that wouldnt really work with the water pump i dont think looking at how the belt is routed..

will prob end up using the rear mounted alt as there will be enough room there and also give me some more space at the front of the engine to move the coil pack to and also for the oil cooler/remote oil filter setup that will be installed with the engine
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Postby xrt-mart on Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:36 pm

Ian Howell sells a idler pulley to sort out the water pump/alternator problem. Give him a bell :wink:
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - more ARP sourced 28/2

Postby H41-NSF on Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:00 am

Are you after an inlet plate that bolts straight to the zetec head ,Then straight to the rover inlet ifso let me know cos i have had these made up and work perfectly. :D
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Postby shalon on Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:52 pm

i am needing an adapter plate to go from rover to zetec inlet how much mate
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Postby xrsi on Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:58 pm

shalon :i am needing an adapter plate to go from rover to zetec inlet how much mate


bugger off and get your own thread :P :lol:

well no tubular manifold for me unfortunatly as had a quick bid on one but didnt want to bid too high as i wasnt sure if it would clear my gearbox when the turbo was on being as im fitting the mtx75 box as well.... Plus i am certain that the seller used a second account to bump the bids up (have a look at bidder 2's bids :( )

Here is what i bid on anyways....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ZETEC-TURBO-EXHAUST-MANIFOLD_W0QQitemZ110226613478QQihZ001QQcategoryZ38786QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - no manifold for me :( 02/03

Postby MattPym on Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:24 pm

Why not use an XS Power Zetec Turbo manifold...Havent heard a bad thing about them yet! They're like £300 new
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - no manifold for me :( 02/03

Postby xrsi on Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:34 pm

MattPym :Why not use an XS Power Zetec Turbo manifold...Havent heard a bad thing about them yet! They're like £300 new


cs i want t move the turbo away from the std mounting position, but its not a priority the rest of the build is. Had to bid on it cos it is the only one i have seen come up on ebay.

XS power stuff isnt the greatest, a mate had a 200sx manifold and had to machine the turbo flange flat. its ok as budget stuff goes but isnt brilliant quality but what do you expect for that sort of money.
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Postby FRST5090 on Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:44 am

xrsi :
well no tubular manifold for me unfortunatly as had a quick bid on one but didnt want to bid too high as i wasnt sure if it would clear my gearbox when the turbo was on being as im fitting the mtx75 box as well.... Plus i am certain that the seller used a second account to bump the bids up (have a look at bidder 2's bids :( )

Here is what i bid on anyways....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ZETEC-TURBO-EXHAUST-MANIFOLD_W0QQitemZ110226613478QQihZ001QQcategoryZ38786QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


I was bidder 2 i was trying to find the reserve i lost out as well looked a good one to at that price
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - no manifold for me :( 02/03

Postby H41-NSF on Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:14 am

The je pistons your getting are they std bore size or will the block need borring. Why dont you just use an rs1800 engine mount and modyfy it . I have use a silvertop zetec mount on my blacktop engine Just need small ammount of work. what head are you using as I'm using a silvertop head with a front mounted alternator I just had to modify the block.
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Re: diary of a zetec turbo build. - no manifold for me :( 02/03

Postby xrsi on Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:58 pm

no by all means post up ideas!

i had considered converting the black top to run the silver top mounts etc however i feel this would be counter productive and go against the main reason i got a black top = cheapness and better mount arangements.

as i will be eventually bolting up a tubular manifold to relocate the turbo over the gearbox i am keeping the focus sump etc so it may as well all stay black top and be done with it. also if i need to oreder any replacement parts inthe future i dont have to get a miss match of parts i can just order focus everything.

The JE pistons require a slight rebore to fit, well a good honing sesion of the block would pretty much sort out the required extra clearance needed as it is only 7thous needed if i remember correctly.

Am quite impressed with the plates the ports look to need a little work tho, will more than likely get one in a month or 2 when the head is starting to be looked at
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