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[andyhardy]

Thanks for the comments guys - but all that good sentiment doesn't get my car running.

Basically - unless you're a qualified Auto-Electrician with good knowledge of Weber Marelli Cossie management specifically fitted to RST's then you're not helping.

I want to keep and drive the car more than anything - but keeping a car that costs so much and doesn't drive is just a very sick joke.

Cheers,

Andy

[Rhinopower]

what loom is it and why is it so expensive?

[andyhardy]

what loom is it and why is it so expensive?

Read the fudgekin post before asking questions please!

Unless you've got some helpful ideas please don't post here.

Cheers,

Andy

[Xr_Dub]

Why don’t u just use ofab?

Just leave the cossie management alone


My mechanic has a scanner machine 40 quid he charges? If that’s
Any help, he’s pretty new to it but hes got the machine scanner used on other cars and found the problems straight away.

Same as the 1 P.E and Middlesex tuning have, i think

U need ure car scanned I bet u it’s a electric fault or something related

[ianFRST]

if only you was closer i got a cossie loom you could have tried

dont break it dude, you'll be gutted 2 break it and never find the problem.

i no i was gutted 2 find the problems with both my cars after i stripped them and it was 2 late

[andyhardy]

Why don’t u just use ofab?

Just leave the cossie management alone


My mechanic has a scanner machine 40 quid he charges? If that’s
Any help, he’s pretty new to it but hes got the machine scanner used on other cars and found the problems straight away.

Same as the 1 P.E and Middlesex tuning have, i think

U need ure car scanned I bet u it’s a electric fault or something related

I don't think a scanner will find an intermittent problem - I'm going to have to take teh whole loom out.

Believe me - I've thought about changing back to OFAB but after paying a very considerable amount of time and money to get the car mapped up I don't want to then spend a further huge sum of money to map it up on a completely different system, the maps will not be interchangeable (OBVIOUSLY).

I know plenty of people with fault code readers - they will not show the problem that I'm having as everything is working except for a dodgy earth or power lead on the ignition side of things, so only option really is to rip all the wiring out (not literally) and test each and every cable to make sure that it is working properly.

It's either all the hassle above or break the car - and let's just say I'm fed up with hassle.

Cheers,

Andy

[XR_Craig]

Andy mate, can't you just leave it a while and just spend some time chilling out and enjoying yourself then go back to the car in a couple of weeks/months/however long.

You've put far too much effort in to give up, i know it might look like a lost cause now but just think of the enjoyment when you get it sorted.

Just my opinion mate but at the end of the day it's up to you.

Hope it all works out for you. Sorry for not being able to offer any advice to sort the problem though.

[leefrst]

right new cars store fault codes on the ecu so even if the fault aint there no more u can still find out once in its life its had a fault i dunno if cossie managment stores the dtc;s in memory out scanner is worth 10k and is the funlumps it tells u every thing and i no it dose scan cossies but cant remeber if it stores the fault codes i will find out tuesday when i go back to work

[ianFRST]

its not a fault that the ecu picks up dude. thats what he is saying...

its something else, like a wiring fault, something that the ecu / fault finders wont pick up on

[andyhardy]

Engine loom is coming out next week hopefully, it's only connected to the car in 3 places (fuel pump, permanent and ignition live feeds) and I'll have to do a pin-out test on every wire now - it's the only way.

I've got a wedding taking up my whole next weekend and with bank holiday and a few business meetings in the way it means I've got 8 days to remove the loom, find the fault, fix the fault and re-install the engine loom and have the car running - somehow I think the carputer won't be installed by FITP and I'll have to bring the cabby anyway if I actually want to try and generate some interest in my business - fudgeking marvellous!

Very very pissed off right now, so please only talk to me if you're not gonna ask pissy questions about random crap.

Cheers,

Andy

[285Andy]

Read the fouquette post before asking questions please!

Unless you've got some helpful ideas please don't post here.

Cheers,

Andy

Very very pissed off right now, so please only talk to me if you're not gonna ask pissy questions about random crap.

Cheers,

Andy

how fudgekin rude! people are only trying to keep your enthusiasm alight and you come back with those sort of comments!
go break the fudgekin car then

[andyhardy]

Read the fouquette post before asking questions please!

Unless you've got some helpful ideas please don't post here.

Cheers,

Andy

Very very pissed off right now, so please only talk to me if you're not gonna ask pissy questions about random crap.

Cheers,

Andy

how fouquette rude! people are only trying to keep your enthusiasm alight and you come back with those sort of comments!
go break the fouquette car then

I'm sorry but I had answered rhinopower's question earlier in the post - I'm gutted about the car not being at another show, so don't want people hassling me on msn about random stuff - sorry if it came across rude, but I'm a grumpy git!

If you think I'm fudgekin rude - so be it!

Cheers,

Andy

[Xr_Dub]

Andy we all want the best for you mate!
we all wanna see u drive the car and have some fun with it.

what ever happens,
do what u have to do

good luck

[PaulFRST]

Read the fouquette post before asking questions please!

Unless you've got some helpful ideas please don't post here.

Cheers,

Andy

Very very pissed off right now, so please only talk to me if you're not gonna ask pissy questions about random crap.

Cheers,

Andy

how fouquette rude! people are only trying to keep your enthusiasm alight and you come back with those sort of comments!
go break the fouquette car then

I thought the same as you.

Andy.......i know you are having alot of problems right now but we both know your not gonna break the car, i recently had an earth problem on my car which baffled my mate and I, so in the end i took it to an expert who knew his stuff, he finally traced the bad earth which was in the boot.

Why don't you just take it to a garage and have the problem sorted once and for all, yeah it may cost a little more than you trying to find the fault but it'll be worth it

But if you have really had enough and do break the car i don't think you'd have any problems selling the bits. but you'll regret it

[andyhardy]

Read the fouquette post before asking questions please!

Unless you've got some helpful ideas please don't post here.

Cheers,

Andy

Very very pissed off right now, so please only talk to me if you're not gonna ask pissy questions about random crap.

Cheers,

Andy

how fouquette rude! people are only trying to keep your enthusiasm alight and you come back with those sort of comments!
go break the fouquette car then

I thought the same as you.

Andy.......i know you are having alot of problems right now but we both know your not gonna break the car, i recently had an earth problem on my car which baffled my mate and I, so in the end i took it to an expert who knew his stuff, he finally traced the bad earth which was in the boot.

Why don't you just take it to a garage and have the problem sorted once and for all, yeah it may cost a little more than you trying to find the fault but it'll be worth it

But if you have really had enough and do break the car i don't think you'd have any problems selling the bits. but you'll regret it

Look - I'm sorry I was rude to anyone on this post, when I said I wish people would stop asking pissy questions of me I meant on MSN, on here you can go for your life but I was hoping that I might get some help with my problem, but then again it is a really specialised setup now and I know the people who posted mean well, and it means alot to me so thanks to everyone.

However - I'm still really gutted about the car, so please excuse me if I'm not particularly responsive on MSN or grumpy - that's half the reason I ask people to stop talking to me as I'm not a nice person when I'm in this kind of mood!

Once again - sorry to everyone that I had a go at or appeared to be grumpy with, I do appreciate that everyone wants the best for me and the car so please don't hit me when you see me at the shows, whether it be in the Fiesta or the Cabby!

Rock on FT

Cheers,

Andy

[EvilDes]

Andy mate, you deserve this car to be running. I know alot of us have been around when you get pissed off with it, and then when things go right with it. So I think we all feel like the car is a part of the site and we all want to see it finished, hence the replies of "dont break it".

But I think what these replies have shown, is that whatever you decide to do, we'll all be here to offer advice, give guidance, or just generally be there to listen to you get things off your chest. It does help.

But anyways, whatever you decide to do with it, you have gained a hell of a lot of experience from it, and a lot of friends have come from you being on this site. We all just want to see you do well with what could be one hell of a beast of a Fiesta

If ya need to chat - MSN buddy

[XR_Craig]

Des summed that up perfect mate - everybody means well.

[Captain Tightpants]

Its not an answer to the car problem,

But is there anybody's car you could fit a carputer system to, just for the time being. Someone who would be willing to 'lend' the car to you for shows. There must be plenty of people here who would help out.

Maybe even fit a setup to a different car for each show. May even be a good selling point, as once its in, they very well may buy a system!

Sorry to hear about the car mate. I know what its like to have cars that are just problem, after problem. Having a bit of a nightmare with the Ka at the minute.

Steve

[FezzR]

Its not an answer to the car problem,

But is there anybody's car you could fit a carputer system to, just for the time being. Someone who would be willing to 'lend' the car to you for shows. There must be plenty of people here who would help out.

Maybe even fit a setup to a different car for each show. May even be a good selling point, as once its in, they very well may buy a system!

Sorry to hear about the car mate. I know what its like to have cars that are just problem, after problem. Having a bit of a nightmare with the Ka at the minute.

Steve

only problem with that is a) if there is a system failure or a component brakes then who has to pay etc etc etc
then b) the time and effort to install it all is obviously something andy doesnt have at the moment.
nice idea tho




as for the loom Andy are you planning on testing it yourself?
if so then make sure you check for continuity between pins that shouldnt have, ie shorts.
only concern i have is if it is as intermitant as you say that when you take the loom out and test it, the issue wont show it self, you may end up having to strip all the insulation/loom tape off to inspect the wiring

[andyhardy]

Hey Scort and FezzR,

Nice suggestions thanks guys - Ian, because I'm taking the whole loom out of the car, removing all of the insulation isn't really that big an issue once it's out of the car for manual inspection but I'm going to test it all electronically first and wiggle each wire to see if there is an intermittent break.

I've got a couple of pics of it all here








It's actually not that difficult to get the loom out, hardest part is removing the connector for injector 3 which is directly underneath the inlet manifold! (I think I only have one knuckle which is left ungraized/cut now).

Oh well - I know alot more about my car than I wanted to now!

Still early days but I feel like I've made some progress even though I've actually taken the guts out of the car.

Scort - I've got the cabby with a carputer installed and new suspension, wheel bearings, sump gasket, full service and other bits are all being done to that car next week so at least I'll have that car good for the shows, although it's not a patch on the Turbo.

Cheers,

Andy

P.S. Only 3 wires holding it all in now - bit of a nightmare finding out where Gary connected them up though as it's in the bundle of wires around the fuse box!

[MotorcyclesFish]

[FezzR]

if i was you i would mark the 3 wires up then cut them, when it comes to refitting fit a good multi-plug, or resolder them.

the bits i mentioned about the loom werent really a problem but somepeople seem to overlook and think things like that too much of an effort.


its annoying seeing you getting so f**cked about by your car,

[andyhardy]

if i was you i would mark the 3 wires up then cut them, when it comes to refitting fit a good multi-plug, or resolder them.

the bits i mentioned about the loom werent really a problem but somepeople seem to overlook and think things like that too much of an effort.


its annoying seeing you getting so fouquette about by your car,

Thanks mate - yeah I know what you mean about being f**cked about by it!

I might take up witchcraft and transfer the hex to someone else's car

I'll probably use the multiplug idea - I have quite a few lying around which would fit the bill nicely

Cheers,

Andy

P.S. You can't see it in those pictures but as I'm not really a mechanic (just a pretend-part-time one) I've labelled up all the connectors anyway, so I'll do the same with the connections I'll cut

[andyhardy]

I've edited the title of the post - I now realise that I'm being a melodramatic Bic™!

Got to remove the clocks now as one of the cables is the rev counter signal (apparently this is a common problem wire with the cossie loom, something to do with the wire breaking further down causing an issue with the rpm signal which splits off further up the loom to the ECU).

Cheers,

Andy

[Rodge]

Take your time with it mate. Try not to rush everything or you'll get disheartened if something else happens.

Hope you sort out though!!

[285Andy]

glad you edited the post Andy. NEVER feel beaten by a bunch of nuts, bolts and wires. it just takes patience. you'll sus it eventually and you'll be over the fudgekin moon when you find the fault
hope my earlier post kicked you up the arse hard enough (grumpy! )

[FezzR]

yea andy if you think its bad fixing (trying) your own car, try having to do it it every day on other peoples

[andyhardy]

Very true guys - thanks!

[scarlet_pimp_mobile]

Hey Andy, if you need help with refitting the carputer system or anything else don't hesitate to call mate. I can't help out technically but I'm a good tool passer and tea maker and general third arm that is sometimes needed when fiddling with cars! I still haven't got a job since getting back so I'm pretty much free if you need a hand.

[andyhardy]

Hey Andy, if you need help with refitting the carputer system or anything else don't hesitate to call mate. I can't help out technically but I'm a good tool passer and tea maker and general third arm that is sometimes needed when fiddling with cars! I still haven't got a job since getting back so I'm pretty much free if you need a hand.

Thanks for the offer mate - it's not that bad thankfully as I've left all the wiring for the carputer in just some of the key components themselves which are not in the car.

The main bulk of the work needed is upgrading of software - new software, new hardware and new drivers are needed, just there are a few things I need to sort out with my screen first before it can go back in (as it was a kit-build by myself there are some things which I'm not happy with - which is why I took it out several months ago but never bothered with it due to the car not actually running).

Engine loom is now out as well - I took these photos as much for my own reference as to show you, so please excuse the weird/boring ones!















Cheers,

Andy

[FezzR]

gotta love the fiesta fuse box

[andyhardy]

gotta love the fiesta fuse box

It's a bloody mess to work with!

Oh well - hopefully won't have to touch it again after I've finished finding this fault

Cheers,

Andy

[heeman10]

I've been doing all the same things today actually Andy! lol I think my patience levels are probably higher than yours though, as I'm only in my first year of not being able to drive my car I came to the point of testing the fuel pump was working off the key again (with my new ECU) but had no luck, so have called it a day.

I hunted out my boost gauge and illumination mini-loom, but the postman had already been and gone Will send it on Monday, so if you break your car and don't need my gauge I will be extremely upset and disgruntled Best carry on trying to get it to work hey?

[acrebo]

I now realise that I'm being a melodramatic Bic™!

Can this be made a sticky!?! Just to remind Andy that he once did utter those words!

Glad to hear you're feeling brighter about things mate, looking at those pics frontal.... too nice to break! Persevere, please!

[andyhardy]

lol - James I've not been able to drive my car on boost properly for a year and a half, as good as not being able to drive it at all - 2 hours on the day I picked it up from Grove doesn't count!

I now realise that I'm being a melodramatic Bic™!

Can this be made a sticky!?! Just to remind Andy that he once did utter those words!

Glad to hear you're feeling brighter about things mate, looking at those pics frontal.... too nice to break! Persevere, please!

This thread can't be made sticky, because I'm the original author. If you look at all my useful posts you'll notice that they never get made sticky, I'm not important enough!

Cheers,

Andy