Which ones the fuel pump relay peeps?

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Which ones the fuel pump relay peeps?

Postby Liams on Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:46 pm

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Postby JasperJ on Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:00 am

:x :x
Jesus what a mess.

Yellow one next to the tall red one is for the Fuel Injection system & that silver one on the middle row in front of the tall red one is your fuel pump relay mate.

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Postby Liams on Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:36 am

Messy? Only looks messy because ive pulled it all down!! But yeah cheers il try them :D

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Postby jayrs on Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:26 pm

damn i see you suffered the "burnt relay" but in your case, badly.

what problem you got then mate?
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Postby Liams on Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:42 pm

damn i see you suffered the "burnt relay" but in your case, badly.


Na nothing is burnt, think its just the photo looks dodgey!!

Well at first the fuel pump wasnt priming when I turned the ignition on so i tryed bridging the conections to test for def if it was the relay!

The fuel pump works when bridged :-? bought a universal motorfactor relay for it and it doesnt work- only works when bridged!!

So finally when I had the pump pumping lol I was cranking her over but nothing, I have a spark and fuel is pressurised in the fuel rail but it doesnt seem to be getting into the cylinders!

Seems like the injectors arent getting a pulse so there sitting there doing nothing, Plugs are dry so I know no fuel is getting through- injectors are not clicking when cranking over :-? :x

I/H reckons I may have missed out an earth somewhere but I have no idea :(

Is all these problems linked together?? :x

Someone please help.... getting fustrated :( :x

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Postby JasperJ on Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:57 pm

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The power for the fuel pump relay runs from the fuel injection relay :)

So when you switch the ignition on power goes into the Fuel Injection Relay - (Yellow one to the left on YOUR image of the tall red relay-mines red :x )

The power is then sent to the Fuel pump Relay from the Fuel injection Relay.

If you Can't get it from this then you may have other issues.

Do you have a Haynes Manual :-?

Pm Me if ur unsure.

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Postby jayrs on Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:17 pm

the red and yellow relays are same so dont worry.

sound to me like you have a dry connection.
take the main plug off that goes to the injector loom and spray some wd40 in there, check the rubber seal isnt over the pins.

while your there give the igniton module plug a spray too.

if you can get a different module, try that.

as for the burnt relay, you have had it in the past, you can see the melted bit ij the fues box and your igniton relay is cable tied to the outside.

check the pins on it, clean them up and try it.

the amoutn of problems you can get from that relay becuase the pins, well one mainly "burns" and the pin goes black stopping a connection.
fuel pump problems can happen when this relay throws its toys out the pram, so check that green relay.
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Postby jayrs on Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:25 pm

heres the fues box from a mates rs, you see what i mean about the green relay

dont worry about the writing it was for something else

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Postby Liams on Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:56 pm

Cheers guys will check all of what you have said!!

as for the burnt relay, you have had it in the past, you can see the melted bit ij the fues box and your igniton relay is cable tied to the outside.


Oh right I get ya! Thought it was funny having an additional one on the side!! Just strange the way the car was working fine before the engine came out!! :-?

Do you have a Haynes Manual


Yes I do :bonkers:


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Postby Liams on Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:38 am

Whats the big grey one with the "F" on the right hand side folks? Haynes manual doesnt show it? Its abit melted :cry:

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Postby jayrs on Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:43 am

thats front heated screen relay, dont worry *to much* about a little burn/melted part, most do it.
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Postby Liams on Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:06 am

Oh right cool cool thought it could be somin major!

Only a thought but for a zetec turbo usually you have to extend the wire and plug going onto the coil to reach..... theres 2 green wires and 1 black, obviously blacks joined back up to black but if the 2 greens have been put back the wrong way round could this affect it? But im getting a spark so maybe not??

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Postby jayrs on Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:18 am

no them wires dont matter, the system on it uses a wasted spark set up, this means that it sparks when its not "ment" to so you alawys getting spark.

your have to combin both your threads mate as its getting confusing :lol: :lol:
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Postby Shannon on Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:30 am

Sure you have the fuel pump earth attached on the battery?

Check that, remove the battery and see if you've trapped it underneath it. I had a similar problem a while back.
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Postby Liams on Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:03 pm

Sure you have the fuel pump earth attached on the battery?

Check that, remove the battery and see if you've trapped it underneath it. I had a similar problem a while back.


Battery is in the boot fella and when I bridge the fuel pump relay it works!! :x

Friend of mine is bringing new fuel pump relay and the injection relay up later from fords so il try them!! So if they dont work then I know theres something def wrong!! :-?

no them wires dont matter, the system on it uses a wasted spark set up, this means that it sparks when its not "ment" to so you alawys getting spark.

your have to combin both your threads mate as its getting confusing


Oh right ok, yep im getting confused an all and its my car :lol:

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Postby jayrs on Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:43 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:

any luck with then relays?
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Postby ibmike on Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:09 pm

Quick question

You got a chip fitted ???


If so remove this and see if the car starts
Mine was causing havoc and now it has all been cleaned re fitted and basically taped in place and so far so good :)
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Postby Liams on Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:55 pm

With the relays the fuel pump still dont work, only when bridged!! :x So who knows!!

Yeah its got a new chip in there, tryed with the old one and still dont work!! :-?

This is bollox :(
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Postby jayrs on Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:43 am

Liams :With the relays the fuel pump still dont work, only when bridged!! :x So who knows!!

Yeah its got a new chip in there, tryed with the old one and still dont work!! :-?

This is bollox :(


have you tried it with no chip at all?

im gunna have to re-read the first post as i forgot what the f uck we talking about now. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

plus its late and im knackered :lol:
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Postby MAD_Adamski on Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:16 pm

have you tired the fuel cut off in the pass footwell? :)
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Postby Liams on Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:57 am

All running guys :D :D :D

Electrician sorted it all out, couple of nackered earths in the fuse box and power to the injection relay was broken!

Cheers for all the help peeps!! :)
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Postby jayrs on Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:13 am

glad ya got it sorted mate :)
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