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[chumkila]

Nissan Skyline GT-R 34 .VS. Lancer Evolution VI

As they were launched within a month's time in Japan, inevitably everybody likes to compare them. The Results are as follows: The GT-R did not jump start as explosively as the lightweight Evo VI, partly because of its weight penalty of 200kg, and because its twin-turbo straight six is arranged to deliver linear output. At the first two gears, GT-R obviously goes slower. It starts to catch up at third, and blast away the Mitsubishi from 4th to 5th. At 6th, which the magazine didn't have the chance to test, no one will doubt the GT-R will leave the Mitsubishi alone in smoke.

As mentioned, GT-R's RB26DETT is more linear than Lancer's 4G63, thanks to the smaller twin turbo instead of single turbo. Turbo lag at low speed is noticeably smaller than R33, torque grows progressively towards high speed and fades later than Lancer's. In contrast, Lancer's unit is relatively explosive once the turbo gets full boost at around 3,000rpm. The chassis feels stronger than Evo VI's, thus give hard cornering more confidence. Steering feels heavier than the Evo VI, thus suit European's taste. Suspensions are tuned quite hard, but perhaps of the extra weight, it rides slightly smoother than the Evo VI. Besides, precise gear shift and the adequate weight of clutch and brake pedals made the tester felt perfect.

There was not a word about high speed cornering, which used to be Skyline GT-R's strongest point. Considering the superior aerodynamics, the 4-wheel-steering and the effort of tuning the car in Nurburgring, I strongly believe the GT-R could overshadow the Evo VI even more. In contrast, the rally-purpose Mitsubishi will feels at home on rough and twisty roads.



Lancer Evo VI Skyline GT-R
0-30 mph 1.8 sec 1.8 sec
0-40 mph 2.4 sec 2.5 sec
0-50 mph 3.5 sec 3.5 sec
0-60 mph 4.4 sec 4.6 sec
0-70 mph 5.9 sec 5.7 sec
0-80 mph 7.3 sec 7.4 sec
0-90 mph 9.2 sec 8.9 sec
0100 mph 11.2 sec 10.8 sec
30-70 mph 4.1 sec 3.9 sec
Standing quarter mile 13.3 sec / 108mph 13.2 / 111mph
Standing kilometre 24.0 / 134mph 23.1 / 137mph

As you can see, they are closely matched until 90mph, then the Skyline stormed away with its wider power band due to the additional turbo and cylinders. Subjectively, the Lancer's single turbo engine feels more laggy, but once it get full boost beyond 2700rpm, it delivers an explosive power surge that, accompany with more noise, feels even faster than the Skyline.

Mid-range acceleration also favours the Mitsubishi, whose in-gear acceleration of 50-70mph and through gear 30-50mph eclipsed the GT-R. However, the latter has more sound-deadening, as well as a smoother, more linear inline-6 that makes beautiful noise. The Lancer sounds too raw and unrefined, gearchange is also less slick than GT-R's Getrag unit.

The Lancer tipped the scale some 240kg lighter than the 1605kg Skyline. In addition to its shorter wheelbase (2510mm versus 2665mm), it goes quicker on twisty roads and displays the agility that only a well-sorted rally car has. The Skyline also handles remarkably good on country roads although not yet matching the little Lancer. However, in terms of driver involvement it is superior. Steering feel is much richer, thus allows the driver to apply power slide easily. The rear-bias ATTESA-TS 4-wheel-drive provides the in-corner adjustability that the AYC of Lancer cannot match. Understeer is the essential nature of Lancer but never exist in the GT-R. At the limit, GT-R is more rewarding to drive.


Information Extracted from various Resources.

[TJ]

After not reading all that above, i'll give you a clue,
sounds like issan skyline.

[EvilFranky]

MUCH MUCH rather have a skyline than a lancer anyday...especially a top secret tuned version

[chumkila]

[iceman]

Ever seen a 1000bhp Evo??? GTR-Vspec

[The Bruster]

Neither are my fave jap cars, but the skyline has a straight 6 which is the best engine layout (bar v12) and a twin turbo....

I also prefer a proper "coupe" to a small saloon.

but at the end of the day.......

You can with a Nissan, but the car infronts a Toyota

[Fezzy Turbo]

EVO's out handle any Skyline!

I will alway's pick an EVO over a Skyline.

[sunnyFRST]

On 2001-11-23 20:54, Fezzy Turbo wrote:
EVO's out handle any Skyline!

I will alway's pick an EVO over a Skyline.

Both cars equally handle extreamly well as they are 4 wheel drive and built for that kinda driving. The diffirerence in this case is the driver.
A good driver in a Skyline can run rings around a not so good driver in a EVO any day of the week - everyone knows that!
The diffierence is that the EVO does everything for you where the Skyline doesn't. Personally I like to do most of it myself and have the feel of how I am driving.

SUNNY.

[chumkila]

Well said boyo!

[Fezzy Turbo]

Skyline's will not handle the same as an EVO :-

1) weight : the Skyline is a heavier car and has a bigger engine up front

2) tech : the Skyline does everything for you, it has "active Yaw control" etc...does the EVO ?

I would say that the lighter, rally bread EVO will out handle a heavier Skyline

[chumkila]

Interesting!

[johnny si]

On a wet twisty road i think the evo would cain the gt-r but on a race track it would be a different story...

[sunnyFRST]

On 2001-11-24 19:59, Fezzy Turbo wrote:
Skyline's will not handle the same as an EVO :-

1) weight : the Skyline is a heavier car and has a bigger engine up front

2) tech : the Skyline does everything for you, it has "active Yaw control" etc...does the EVO ?

I would say that the lighter, rally bread EVO will out handle a heavier Skyline

Your not seeing my point.
The Skyline requires more INPUT from the driver where as the EVO doesn't (ie more fun in skyline).
Regards to handling with weight - there are many factors to take in consideration when driving heavier and lighter cars (when to use more power and when not to).
I didn't go to those Porsche Advanced driving lessons for nothing you know

SUNNY.

[Excursion]

Does it matter LOL! none of you have them

Ive driven the EVO and I dont care what outhandles or holds the road better it was rather good fun

On todays roads its more of a numbers game, they are both fast cars

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Excursion on 2001-11-25 10:22 ]</font>

[sunnyFRST]

Excursion - I think you've sumed it up (I am not going to lose any sleep over an EVO being better than a Skyline)
BUT - We were talking about it OK! and yes it does matter as someone on here might want to purchase one of these cars one day therefore what we say could have an impact on their decision! OK!

SUNNY.

[Excursion]

[chumkila]

Yes boys you might have an impact on MY decision!

[Excursion]

about what? your choice of evening meal?

[Fezzy Turbo]

sunny.......

the EVO does need a lot of input, it doesn't have the fancy electronic devices the Skyline has, ok you can switch them off, but with the EVO being lighter and having a very torquey (i think i have invented a new word ) engine it will need to have a lot of input.
The Skyline has a lot of electronics controlling everything..............it's a feckin' robot car

*ding.......ding* round 4

[sunnyFRST]

YOUR WRONG AND I AM RIGHT! - Nuff said!

SUNNY.

[Fezzy Turbo]

On 2001-11-25 16:55, sunnyFRST wrote:
YOUR WRONG AND I AM RIGHT! - Nuff said!

SUNNY.

bo11ocks!!!.......you have been beaten

[sunnyFRST]

No Wayeeee Haggis!
I am on the phone right now therefore not concentrating on my cunning answer!

SUNNY.

[Fezzy Turbo]

On 2001-11-25 17:08, sunnyFRST wrote:
No Wayeeee Haggis!

SUNNY.

how original

[Muzza]

R34 - every time, just for toys

[chumkila]

P.S. Sunny your cunning answer..........

[iceman]

Let's sum it up guys...
Driven both skylines at Evo, it's good to look at but do you dare slam the pedal with oni 450bhp in tact? I know I dun, partly it's not mine.
Evo 6.5 is in the past, Evo 7 does look impressive, givin you all that you need but it's oni comparible to WRX.
GTR V-spec is fancy, but looking at one sitting around my garage for a month, clearing one but with another coming in, is not very funny. It's fast n furious, but not very reliable.

Overall, a V-spec will out run a GSR anytime anywhere. I've a footage of their private battle, GSR tune by Ralliart n V-spec by Top secret.
Need proof?? Send me a blank VCD n I'll burn it for you.

After all, dun you think it's better comparing V-spec with NSX or Supra??

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[The Bruster]

Well said that man!!!!!Evos/imprezas/gti-rs/celicas are rally cars, Skylines/supras/soarers/nsxs are GTs, I'd prefer a GT anyday!

Nearly all the GTs have straight 6s too which are far better, smoother, and can rev higher (apart from nsx/300ZX which are V6s)

[Fezzy Turbo]

to GT cars..............

give me a rally bread car anytime