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Postby Excursion on Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:07 pm

XRSi - This guy is selling all you need for a CVH PAS conversion:

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Postby ianFRST on Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:22 pm

:o :o your a crazy mofo mark :lol: should be 1 hell of a car :devil: st170 turbo'd :devil: :devil:

i still aint even fitted the cossie brakes i got off ya at fitp last year :oops: :lol:
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Postby FezzR on Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:24 pm

mark if the arms are 20mm wider do the hubs correct camber? or is this one of the ideas behind the billet hubs?
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Postby FezzR on Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:55 pm

plenty of info for you mark regards servos. let me know when/if you want it.
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Postby Richard_xr2i1800 on Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:35 pm

WOW :o this will an amazing car mate cant wait to see the finished car. Good luck with it all :D

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Postby Dave106gti on Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:59 am

Whilst all the other projects are good on this site, this is the one that i will really be keen to keep an eye on!!

Your engineering knowledge is truely outstanding and the ideas are always focused on driver enjoyment, not just ultimate speed, but the entire driving experience. For me, this is what takes your work hands and shoulders above everyone else :)

And whilst ya at uni ya crazy fool :wink:
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Postby Excursion on Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:26 am

HAHA Ian get those brakes fitted!

Fezz - That info would be really appreciated, PM me or post on here mate. Thanks :)

Rich, thanks. I'm looking forward to driving it already!

Dave, cheers :) Hopefully by the end of this project I should have quite an enjoyable car to drive. Uni's nearly over thank god, 4th year = nightmare!

Small update. The rear calipers arrived this morning, very good condition and the pads have still got a lot of life left in them. I've had red calipers before and they didn't look too great against my burgandy car, so I'll strip these down and have them powder coated silver to match the fronts. Replacement Brembo decals can be bought on ebay.

Now I have both front and rear calipers I can begin to determine the square area of each caliper piston, in order to calculate the total fluid displacement within the system (also allowing for pad wear and brake lines). This is used as a requirement for master cylinder size, and the ratio of the SportKA brake pedal is used to detrmine if adequate brake line pressure will be available. I will post more when I've learnt exactly what needs to be done.

Here are a couple of pics:
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(I have a set of Cosworth 4x4 front brakes for sale if anyone is looking for a set. PM me with offers if interested.)

I also ordered a few Scotchbrite pads to begin stripping the underseal from under the car. I'll get cracking at the weekend. I'll (etch)prime first and I aim to give it a finish as good as the top sides. It'll be my first time painting with a compressor/gun so I'm expeting a few mistakes!
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Postby RS_Rawli on Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:36 am

just put it on the drier the better

you can always make it wetter, you cant get rid of runs though ;)
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Postby Excursion on Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:46 am

RS_Rawli :just put it on the drier the better

you can always make it wetter, you cant get rid of runs though ;)


cheers man, sounds like good advice.

Few Q's for you...

-What brand of paint do you recommend?

-I've been looking at HVLP guns and a suitable compressor as mines a bit on the small side for HVLP, what do you reckon to them? Failing that, what 'standard' pressure gun do you recommend?

-Suction or gravity feed gun?

Cheers 8)
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Postby Andy.B on Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:06 pm

Mark your one crazy bowi...... Will be very nice to see it all together once again. :D
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Postby heeman10 on Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:58 pm

Sweet little setup for the rear. I read all that article last night, and I guess it does make sense. As soon as my drums start playing up or I get bored I'll stick some discs on the back. Was also thinking ZS beam with some machining on the hub mounting faces of the rear wheels to allow them to sit into the arch nicely :)
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Postby Excursion on Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:55 pm

Thanks lads :)

Jim, yeah it makes fairly intersting reading. Stoptech do some fantastic tech articles, and most are written by third parties which says a lot about the company.

With this car I'm trying to factor out the front bias as best I can, although I've no doubt great results can be achieved with a smaller rear setup and a bias valve. I thought I'd take this route as if I ever venture on to the track there are quite a few pad types available for the Brembo rear caliper :)

ZS rear beam will be nice.

I've not got your EDIS module yet, but I've not forgotten! It's been chucking it down for the past 2 days...as soon as the weather breaks I will go and get one for you. I checked the part numbers and any one bar the HCS will be fine. I'm hoping it's going to be nice weather tomorrow as I could do with a few things myself.
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Postby RS_Rawli on Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:38 am

suction mate, picture yourself on your back painting upwards, with a gravity feed gun, getting every so slightly frustrated cos your painting vertical and the paint is at the bottom :lol:

as for compressors and paint ill ask my dad later as thats his side of the job, im hopeless at painting panels etc
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Postby Excursion on Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:51 am

RS_Rawli :suction mate, picture yourself on your back painting upwards, with a gravity feed gun, getting every so slightly frustrated cos your painting vertical and the paint is at the bottom :lol:

as for compressors and paint ill ask my dad later as thats his side of the job, im hopeless at painting panels etc


Makes sense :lol:

Cheers Chris.
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Postby Excursion on Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:20 pm

Ordered some Scotchbrite pads this week from RS online (be warned there are cheaper places out there, but delivery is fast & reliable):
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I'm using the pads to remove all underseal and take the entire underneath back to bare metal, ready for etch primer and new underseal (in specific places).

Here is the underside as it was, covered in about 1.5mm of wax. When I took delivery of the shell back in 2000 I spent 3 days and copious amounts of Waxoyl making sure it wouldn't rust...
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Heres what the N/S looked like after 10 minutes with the angle grinder and Scotchbrite pad. I found the electric drill lacking in power and it tended to burr the underseal and not fetch it off cleanly. The drill is only really useful for the hard to reach places..and there are lots of those:
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Long exposure to show more detail:
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I've got limited time to spend on the project at the moment due to revision, so standard Grey Primer was used to protect the exposed metal. This will be removed when I've finished removing all of the underseal and in its place will sit a nice coat of etch primer.
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m1k3_w47715 was kind enough to donate a pair of ST170 hubs to the cause! Big thanks to Mike :wink:
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Superflex Polyurethane ARB bushes. This is the only place on the car I will be using Poly bushes, the ARB bushes take some punishment so it's worthwhile in this area:
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Low screenwash level sensor from a Ghia. This will be wired up to my Mk5 clocks:
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Most of the Ford parts I need for the project have been delivered, no doubt the need for more will arise though!

Mk5 secondary weather seals for the doors. At speeds over a ton the top of the doors flex and the result is a lot of wind noise. These strips should go somewhere towards stopping that. I'm going to bond the brackets on, as a lot of Mk5's rust out from the spot welds the top of the rail (it traps water):
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A fresh set of decals for the car, including the engine bay which will be resprayed to match the car colour (Metallic Mk3.5 engine bays were left in etch primer):
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Any parts that are not in 'as new' condition are being replaced along with all the suspension bushes & components just to be on the safe side. Even though most parts have only done 700ish miles I want the car to be perfect:
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Time to get my magic shoes and go TO THE MAGIC LAND!
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Postby Captain Tightpants on Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:38 pm

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Sweet mate! You've had more updates in five days, than I have had in 2 months! Git!

What size ARB are you going to be using mate?

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Postby DaveZetec on Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:40 pm

This project looks great mark - You seem to do things as everyone else would like to, given the time, space and money!

One day I look forward to having the resources and knowledge needed to embark on a project of this scale, and make such a good job of it!

I'd like to offer some useful advice or input here, but as usual you've though of far more than I can.

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Postby mike_wall15 on Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:50 pm

Excursion :m1k3_w47715 was kind enough to donate a pair of ST170 hubs to the cause! Big thanks to Mike :wink:


:lol: very good Mr 3xcur510n! :P
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Postby FezzR on Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:03 pm

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Sweet mate! You've had more updates in five days, than I have had in 2 months! Git!

What size ARB are you going to be using mate?

Steve

they're the same arb bushes i have, so must be standard :bonkers:
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Postby Excursion on Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:09 pm

Dave cheers man, kind words :wink:

Mike :lol: :lol: 5P73ND1D

MR STEVE - 16MM SIR, There is a 12mm version for the 16V Ghia and 1.1/1.3 petrol models. Might be worth EXPERIMENTING with it to DESTROY THE UNDERSTEER.
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Postby XR_Ben on Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:29 pm

This sure is one project to watch :) How many original & Fresh ideas should one person really be allowed per car? I think you're being greedy :lol:


What i want to know is some more info on your headlight mods you've mentiond in many-a-thread prior to this :D :wink:
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Postby j_man69 on Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:40 pm

wow !

this is gonna be like ford would build a fiesta concept car

sounds like evrythings gonna be perfect, you must be loaaaaaaaaaaaaded :lol:
project fez has landed !!
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Postby Stoned on Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:41 am

Awesome as always Mark. Cant wait to see this come together.
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Postby Ben_frst on Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:56 am

you have a long road ahead be strong im sure it'll be unreal when done i'll be keepin my eye on this post :wink:
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Postby Rhinopower on Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:06 am

well, after reading this my jaw has hit the floor! very looking forward to seeing more of this in the future and meeting the car itself,

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Postby Sphinx on Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:54 pm

Brilliant pictures of the underside, i needed them! just the right place as well. I've got an idea and needed to see if it could work. :)

Progress is swift on this one isnt it! :D

Oh btw, this air-con that you fitting, doesnt it cause moisture or something that has to be drained away? i remember when you fitted it to the audi that you had to cut drainage holes. :)
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Postby FezzR on Sat Apr 23, 2005 6:34 pm

sphinx :Brilliant pictures of the underside, i needed them! just the right place as well. I've got an idea and needed to see if it could work. :)

Progress is swift on this one isnt it! :D

Oh btw, this air-con that you fitting, doesnt it cause moisture or something that has to be drained away? i remember when you fitted it to the audi that you had to cut drainage holes. :)


indeed it does but as long as you use a short piece of hose and use plenty of protection around the area you'll be fine, and its only very small amounts that most people dont even notice
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Postby Ruishy1 on Sat Apr 23, 2005 7:03 pm

this is gonna be a really mental motor, mr khalsa has some competion :wink:
how much did those scotchbrite pads set you back mate, if anyone needs them just ask because i get them for free from my work :D
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Postby Captain Tightpants on Sat Apr 23, 2005 8:34 pm

Mr Ruishy,

OOoh oohh! PICK ME! I want some!!


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Postby Excursion on Sat Apr 23, 2005 8:42 pm

Thanks again for the support gents, I'm feeling the love in here tonight :D

XR_Ben I already have the ballasts from a previous Audi project:

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I'm going to source a set of Bi-Xenon projectors and carefully mount them in the Fiesta headlamp using the reflectors from another type of car, I'm having new covers made to replace the stock glass fronts. I've worked most of this out and have contacts ready, but the lighting will be one of the last things I do unfortunately. The finishing touches will be done towards the end of the year :)

sphinx Yes that's right, a drain tube is required. When a heat exchange takes place on the fins of the evaporator, condensation forms and drips into the bottom of the heater box. Sometimes when I parked the Audi up on a hot day there would be small pools of water underneath.

FezzR Ready for that brake information when you are :)

Ruishy1 They were £23 inc delivery mate, pretty damn expensive considering the angle grinder version lasted all of 15 minutes! I'd very much like to take you up on that offer please, in fact you're a lifesaver! Can you sort me out with some? PM me if you like :wink:
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Postby Sphinx on Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:35 pm

Oh btw Mark, sorry i havent replied to you pm but i figure its better to write it here now. I spoke to a technitian about some billet hubs and we have all the equipment and expertise to make some at uni but he said he'd get in trouble from higher powers becuase of the fact they'd be used a road going car and there are safety issues etc.
If you, Steve or I could come up with some bullet proof designs that i could show him then it might change his mind, but other than that i'm not sure.

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Postby FezzR on Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:29 am

Scort :Mr Ruishy,

OOoh oohh! PICK ME! I want some!!


Steve

oh oh oh oh oh and me :D



mark basic findinds were all mk3 ibizas are the same size even the ones with brembos

leons are actually smalller than ibiza, and i cant remember [ERRR] else atm lol

but the reason i been holding back is cos this is all according to the parts system and doesnt indicate actuall capacity just external diameter, was gonna do a little more research and see if i can find the capacity
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Postby Ruishy1 on Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:13 pm

:lol: :lol: didnt know everyone was so desperate for scotchbrite pads ! :lol: when i go into work tomorrow il see how many i can get, should be able to get quite a few everyweek, il make a stockpile and anyone that needs them can have them :D
just glad to help.

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Postby Excursion on Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:28 pm

Today I stripped the underside of all removable parts; fuel tank, fixings, pipes, heat shields etc

The tank was still half full so I siphoned it dry to make removal simpler:
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The spare wheel carrier was also removed, it's gone for good as the new exhaust system will take up all of the rear space. Here are a couple of shots of the install I did 6 years ago, I will get around to updating it at some point:
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Battery relocated to the boot, and false floor for install so that some load space is still functional:
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This is the floor as it is now, lots of wax and underseal:
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The mid section of the car is not undersealed. I spent this afternoon removing all of the wax with petrol and a combination of Brillo pad, toothbrush and cloth:
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Still a long way to go.
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Postby XR_Ben on Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:31 pm

V.Cool about the lights, i would like to do somthing like that at some point, but wouldn't know where to start! :lol:

I was thinking of getting one of those Bi-Xenon plu'n'play kits that you see about the place, but after reading several looong posts by ppl on passionford about them, i was kind of put off, but then thats using those bulbs with stock glass & reflectors.

Ah well, i'll leave it for now :)
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