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[teamshock nick]

Hello

My steering lock is on and i cant turn the key in the barrel to release the lock, it wont even turn to pos 1.

Its been playing up for a while but ususaly when you wiggle the steering wheels and the key the lock releases

not anymore!

Does anyone know if i can remove the barrel and start the car with pliers or something? obviously feel free to pm me rather than posting on here how to do this.

Also the car has an airbag

Its a 1.1LX

[teamshock nick]

i just thought

if i change the barrel i will get a new key

and unless i spend a fortune then the new key wont have a chip to take off the imobilser

so what should i do? someone mentioned taping the chip to the black plastic ring that surrounds the barrel and that this will turn the imob off?

or would it work if i just held the chiped key near the barrel as i turn the new key?

[4992jk1]

if you have a separate immobilizer/alarm system then you can remove the black ring from around the barrel and tape the key inside it to permanently disable the standard ford immobilizer, then you could replace the rest as you wish, you could fit a new barrel or as my brother has done re wire it to remove the barrel altogether and replace it with switches, but i would not recommend that unless you have a good alarm/immobilizer.

[jayrs]

the problem is prob that the key has worn out to the point it wont work, and you need the lock turned into a postion to be able to get it out, so you need to get it working.

as for the chip, dont worry about that, the little red bit on the kay, prise that out and inside your find a glass transponder about 20mm long, thats all you need, so you can get another look that takes another key, and you simply put your transponder in that key and it will all work juist fine.

you can get a new key cut and try it in the lock, it could be that the lock has worn out as well meaning you will still have problems, but if all your door locks work off the same key, then i would say, get a new key cut, get a new ignition lock kit and build it up to suit the key, and then swap it over, but again you need to get the old one out, and the newly cut key may even work the new lock just fine meaning its easy.

see my guide for coding your keys and building locks here
guide-coding-your-keys-and-rebuilding-your-locks-vt169403/

this is a ignition repair kit (rebuild kit) and there a good price, i got one my self for my RS
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-Ford-Sierra-T ... 45f0b697d8

or get one of these kits and put your transponder in the key, but you will then have a different key for ignition (i would double check will seller that the new key does take a transponder before buying)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ford-steering-IGN ... 5ad174f194

if you cant code your key, PM me a close up picture and i will code it for you mate

[teamshock nick]

thanks for your help

my mate has an escort barrel so im hoping that will fit

either way i need to get the barrel out without being able to turn it to postion I

maybe a scre driver n hammer!?

[jayrs]

escort one is the same and will fit.

and basicly no, wihtout turning it, its gunna be hard, your fcuk it right up forcing it out

[snake]

Take the ignition wiring block off the back of the barrel, it puts pressure on the centre of the barrel and its easier to to get the key to work with it off.

[teamshock nick]

cool cheers will try and remove that plug and see what happens.

I have looked at barrels that list fiesta/escort but my mates escort barrel is from an 88 and i dont think it fits into the same catogory as the mk3 fiesta

will play it by ear.

Cheers for your help guys.

[jayrs]

if it uses the same key it should fit.
but then again, for the sake of just over a tenner, you get a brand new one.., i would rather have new tbh

[DanFraser]

You could always go to a scrappy and start taking things apart.

The airbag is nothing to be worried about, I have two airbags in my shed.

[teamshock nick]

i called a place just now, hes a trader on ebay.

I was going to buy a barrel and return it if the escort one didnt work but hes told me that it will work so not to bother.

Does anyone know how to disable the airbag whilst the car is being worked on?

Or do you not think i need to bother? getting the steering lock off will be fun!

It wasnt much fun getting the fecker onto a flat bed to be trailored home!

[DanFraser]

Disconnect the yellow wire around tge steering column, disconnect the battery, wait around 10 minutes and you'll hear a nice hiss from the airbag. Once that's done you can take it apart. Take the airbag off, be careful still with it though, take the wheel off. Now you can take tge steering lock and barrel off. Replace with another one and use the pats ring from the donor car.

Getting everything from a scrappy should be easy and most of tge time you'll find a full lock set. Any more questions feel free to ask. I did a full lock and pats module swap over recently.

[teamshock nick]

cheers

the steering lock wont need to be replaced will it? just the barrel?

did it take you long to do?

[jayrs]

air bag is held on with 2 bolts via the back of the steering whell, butjust wanna point out bere, you cant just pull the steering wheel off without operating the lock.

its a long winded way your going about this for a simple problem, as i said before, get a new key cut and your prob find the ignition lock works, if it dont, so you have a spare key for the doors and nothing lost

[teamshock nick]

i have 3 keys dude.

The master plus 2.

I have tried all the keys, they work on the doors but no longer work on the barrel.

So it must be the barrel?

[jayrs]

ah you never said you had more than 1 key.

yeah the bartrle is prob worn out, have you tried a bit of wd40 in it to see if it will free it a little to maybe make one of these keys work? i know its a long shot as when these types of locks stop working they can be a nightmare!
my drivers lock stopped working on me after playing up for some time, 10 mins of messing around and it opened, and i went down ford there and then and got a new lock

[teamshock nick]

yeah tired all sorts mate.

My drivers door lock dosent work either lol...

[4992jk1]

i know this sounds really dodgey but my brother removed his with a conveniently sized screwdriver, he found one that fitted inside the lock and would turn them to unlock it, it obviously didn't start the car but you could always try putting some flat screwdrivers in there and jiggle them around to see if you cant get it to shift, but its because of that screwdriver he removed all the locks including the ignition barrel and fitted it with an immobilizer instead and a switch panel

[jayrs]

yeah tired all sorts mate.

My drivers door lock dosent work either lol...

ah is that becuase the lock is naffed or the keys are worn.

you can get lock repair kits cheap, depends if you wanna keep the same key for all locks rather then have a different one.

[teamshock nick]

mate came over and took the plug off the back of the barrel and managed to get the steering lock off and the car started

all be it with a screwdriver

i dont fancy taking it to work so borrowing a jeep!

have ordered the barrel just need to figure out how to remove the old barrel now that we can get the key turned

any guides?

[DanFraser]

The small screwdriver method mentioned above might work, not exactly a yale lock is it?

Jab that in, then use another small screwdriver to push a button thingy down then pull out, with difficulty if you have fun like I did.

[teamshock nick]

sorry i lost ya?

where would you like me to jab my screwdriver to get the barrel out fella?

In the key'ole?

[jayrs]

mate came over and took the plug off the back of the barrel and managed to get the steering lock off and the car started

all be it with a screwdriver

i dont fancy taking it to work so borrowing a jeep!

have ordered the barrel just need to figure out how to remove the old barrel now that we can get the key turned

any guides?

see my guide for coding your keys and building locks here
guide-coding-your-keys-and-rebuilding-your-locks-vt169403/

[DanFraser]

sorry i lost ya?

where would you like me to jab my screwdriver to get the barrel out fella?

In the key'ole?

To get the barrel out you turn the key to position I (I think it's I) and then press down on a circular tab along the top side of the barrel, it's a catch to hold it in.

[teamshock nick]

sweeet!

got the barrel today so will try later

thanks again guys.

On another note i have been borrowing my dads car, last night i lost the master key to it!

arggggggggg BAD WEEK!

[jayrs]

oh dear, bet your dad is not happy at all

[teamshock nick]

nope

Fiesta headlights are not working now?!??!?!

[jayrs]

did you plug the stalks back in?

[teamshock nick]

is that the big plug that i removed to get the barrel out?

if so i did..............and i also touched it with a screw driver and got sparks......

although im sure the lights didnt work before that (after i fitted the bumper)

[jayrs]

no i think your talking about the ignition switch.
if you have had sparks, have you checked all the fuses?

[teamshock nick]

barrel is out! after my mate beat the s**t out of it

does anyone know how to remove the chip from the key so i can put the old chip in the new key?

[jayrs]

barrel is out! after my mate beat the s**t out of it

does anyone know how to remove the chip from the key so i can put the old chip in the new key?

im not being funny, but have i wasted my time replying to this thread?? the questions you ask, i have answered, and the links i have put up to my guide explain everything you needed, and need to know.., yet you seemed to of ignored everything ive said and the links ive posted.......

[knuckles]

in one ear and out another

[jayrs]

yeah i fear so mate
ah well can only do what i can

hope ya get it all sorted, and i hope ya mate hasnt fcuked the housing by smashing it out

[teamshock nick]

calm down fella, you have been really helpful i wouldnt have known how to get the barrel out without your input.

With regards to the chip though when we put the put the old key against the barrel it turned the imob off now and it dosent seem to need it anymore??!?!?

im not going to bother changing the chip as i dont want to wreck the key.

thanks