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[Max M4X WW]

Ah ok didnt see that once again, Just checking!

[RS_Rawli]

well mine was quiet as a mouse, might not be your tappets

[Badgerboy]

Well its quieter than all the other HCS's that are around here, but still 'tappy'.

(It's probably how it sounded when it came out of the factory!)

[Liebo]

mine had a knackered timing chain which is why it wouldnt go quiet...

[Badgerboy]

Meh, sod that. I'll wait till it dies then put a new lump in. Timing chain is a pain in the arse to change.

[badj]

iv had a diffrnt engine since i did mine cos the old one gave up, aint done this one yet.

remember GTA1 on the pc? when u really bugger up a bus or a tank n it makes that shagged diesel clicky engine noise? thats what my 1.1 sounds like

[punkass230]

Just done this and also used Max M4X WW's tappet settings, fkn ay, sounds quiet as a mouse and i was totally stunned, seriosly there is no tappet noise, mine had only done 50k so wasnt massivly loud, buts its slient now! Excellent guide!

[RS_Rawli]

[RS_Rawli]

also duno what engine u got with a timing chain, these are pushrod engines mate

[Max M4X WW]

They are Steve_HCS's settings. And i need to do mine again!

[Badgerboy]

also duno what engine u got with a timing chain, these are pushrod engines mate

Well, all the 1.0, 1.1, and 1.3 HCS engines.

Page 2A6 of the Haynes manual, I'm looking at it right now. I think the CVH engines run a timing belt, but the HCS engines deffo run a timing chain.

[James-UK]

It could also be down to the grade of oil you use, i believe for the later HCS engines ford reccomend 5w/30 which is stupidly thin and will make it sound worse.

I had 20w/50 in my mk1 1.1 and that was very quiet!

[DaveZetec]

also duno what engine u got with a timing chain, these are pushrod engines mate

Well, all the 1.0, 1.1, and 1.3 HCS engines.

Page 2A6 of the Haynes manual, I'm looking at it right now. I think the CVH engines run a timing belt, but the HCS engines deffo run a timing chain.

somethings got to turn the cam!

[Badgerboy]

Meh, bored so tomorrow I'm stripping the engine. Chain, pistons, valves etc. Should be fun.

[Fiesta LX]

Er...what about the case hardning? I printed off the instructions and showed a guy who knows alot about cars. He said the case hardning will be f**cked when you grind it down and the car will only last a few hundred miles!!!

[RS_Rawli]

yeah, sorry, i know nothing about cars

[Badgerboy]

Er...what about the case hardning? I printed off the instructions and showed a guy who knows alot about cars. He said the case hardning will be fouquette when you grind it down and the car will only last a few hundred miles!!!

Eh? Case hardening? ???

Well my engine hasn't exploded yet, and Rawli's 1.1 managed to live until he put in his RS engine...

Could be better if you explain what your friend means....

[Fiesta LX]

All he said was dont do it, you'll remove the case hardning by grinding it and it will get even more worn down than before!

[Badgerboy]

Meh, nutsack. I've done 25,000 miles on mine and they are fine. No offence to your friend but it sounds very dubious.

[Fiesta LX]

The guy is actually my tutor at my college, I do Motor Vehicle Tech you see. I don't know thats just what he told me would happen!

[RS_Rawli]

probably read too many books, i did this, it ran silent until i took the thing out, no engine problems caused, the tappets are solid anyway, wont make any difference

[Badgerboy]

Just a thought Rawli, but would the tappet gaps be slighty out after grinding the faces down? I always set mine to Haynes, but I suppose grinding a .1mm off the faces they might chnage.

Did you set the tappets taking that into account or did you set them as normal.

[Max M4X WW]

Just a thought Rawli, but would the tappet gaps be slighty out after grinding the faces down? I always set mine to Haynes, but I suppose grinding a .1mm off the faces they might chnage.

Did you set the tappets taking that into account or did you set them as normal.

Thats actually quite a good point!!!

[RS_Rawli]

set them when the go back in..... the clearance is only the gap between the rocker and the push valve

if you dont want to do it, dont do it, stop picking holes in my probably 18month old guide, and get a life. plenty people have done it and none have had a problem.

[Badgerboy]

set them when the go back in..... the clearance is only the gap between the rocker and the push valve

if you dont want to do it, dont do it, stop picking holes in my probably 18month old guide, and get a life. plenty people have done it and none have had a problem.

Hey Rawli, I'm not picking holes, I did this ages ago! Fiesta LX is the one with the mental tutor and crazy questions!

I'm only mentioning it because I had the rockers off the other day, and thought about grinding them again. Was wondering if the gaps would need resetting because I'd shave a little off the tappet end. It would seem I don't.

[VUK]

i am really worried now since i only reduced the clearence to 010mm for exhaust and 008 for intake,

its stealth but now i read that affectes the performance!

I will try grinding them down and setting properly.


What is THE best setting?

[Badgerboy]

i am really worried now since i only reduced the clearence to 010mm for exhaust and 008 for intake,

its stealth but now i read that affectes the performance!

I will try grinding them down and setting properly.


What is THE best setting?

Errr.... The ones in the Haynes. I think its .3mm for exhaust, and .2mm for inlet. Yours are way off!

[VUK]

I know!


Anyway, i'v done it, grinded down, set to 020 inlet, 030 exhaust.

The car is much faster now and it pulls a lot better at low rpm.


BUT its not as quet as before....yet not bad!

Thanks

[Fiesta LX]

Look here, I'm not picking holes!!! I just don't want to do something to my car that will f**k it up!!! Don't be such an arsehole just because not everyone is so confidant in your guide. I'm sure the guide is fine and I have nothing to worry about its just that, I don't want to have to buy a new car just because some guy over the internet said it would be ok!

[VUK]

Look here, I'm not picking holes!!! I just don't want to do something to my car that will fouquette it up!!! Don't be such an arsehole just because not everyone is so confidant in your guide. I'm sure the guide is fine and I have nothing to worry about its just that, I don't want to have to buy a new car just because some guy over the internet said it would be ok!

there is nothing to it?????

i find changing oil harder

[Max M4X WW]

i find changing oil harder

Is isnt it!

[Fiesta LX]

Taken from here: http://www.fordfans.cz/download/manual/0686-02a.pdf

"It is seldom that the cam followers wear in their bores, but it is likely that after a high mileage, the cam lobe contact surface will show signs of a depression or grooving. Where this condition is evident, renew the cam followers. Grinding out the wear marks will only reduce the thickness of the hardened metal of the cam follower and accelerate further wear."

[RS_Rawli]

theyre not cam followers as such anyway

just rockers, for the push rods

the noise is caused because you set the gaps with the feeler gauges but as there is an identation that the gauge doesnt account for the setting is out by however deep the indentation is. There are only 2 ways to fix this, grind em flat, or get new ones, grinding is free, it worked for me and many others.

if you dont want to do it, dont fuckin do it, i dont care.

[VUK]

i find changing oil harder

Is isnt it!

[Fiesta LX]

if you dont want to do it, dont fouquette do it, i dont care.

Its not I dont want to do it, I want to make my Fiesta quieter. Its just I dont to do it before knowing that its safe to do and wont f**k up my car. I cant afford to get another car just cause some guy over the internet said its fail safe.