Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - (Update: 21/01/11 - RR!)
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I love it! Must be so much fun to drive...

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perfect, i absolutely love this car mate
so inspiring too just finised reading the lot, great read
so inspiring too just finised reading the lot, great read

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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo...
Thanks 
Took a fair amount of time to get things right! Wow, must have taken a while to read!
Took a fair amount of time to get things right! Wow, must have taken a while to read!
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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo...
jonyb4 ::D took me aobut 3 hours, but i read all up untill 2/3 then just looked at the pics and associated text
Pretty pleased with the gauge pods though! Want to get all that silver painted parts of the dash flocked in a similar colour..
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I think this is great mate very good work keep it up.
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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo...
Thanks for comments 
Time for the remaining winter update.
Got a Stack boost gauge for christmas. Brilliant gauge, uses it's own map sensor! within 2% accuracy which on 20 psi is 0.4!
Can see the small map sensor on the left there.

I got a bit anal when I wired it

Re-calibrates itself every time you start the ignition

I then ordered these, which are amazing for what they are - need to be amped really.

And heres to fitting:


These are now for sale.. £20 posted

There will be massive updates over the next couple of months!
This engine is now provisionally sold! (It's not even out of the car yet!)

Hopefully I'll have updates within the next couple of weeks..
Time for the remaining winter update.
Got a Stack boost gauge for christmas. Brilliant gauge, uses it's own map sensor! within 2% accuracy which on 20 psi is 0.4!
Can see the small map sensor on the left there.

I got a bit anal when I wired it

Re-calibrates itself every time you start the ignition

I then ordered these, which are amazing for what they are - need to be amped really.

And heres to fitting:


These are now for sale.. £20 posted

There will be massive updates over the next couple of months!
This engine is now provisionally sold! (It's not even out of the car yet!)

Hopefully I'll have updates within the next couple of weeks..
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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo...
oh god i forgot how goregous that engine bay was mate, looks the nuts 

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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo...
if your selling the engine, whats the plans then mate ?
i dont like pink, but for some reason it really does work
i dont like pink, but for some reason it really does work

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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo...
I will try to keep as much of the colour with the new engine as poss. All the purple hoses are staying. Might just have to go with a black and purple theme.
I will reveal engine choice when I have a picture
Let the guesses commence...
I will reveal engine choice when I have a picture
Let the guesses commence...
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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo...
lol yea im gonna guess a Zetec Turbo lol, only common way up from a RST lump 

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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo...
Smo :Focus RS or Zetec Turbo (much the same thing really!)?
Wow, thought this would at least last past a day!
Well done this man! Yea I've got a Focus RS Lump on its way soon hopefully. My brother has one already and he's already got his engine out!
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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo...
f**k me 212bhp in a Ka and im sure you'd take it futher lol
your mental llama
your mental llama

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moondustka :Smo :Focus RS or Zetec Turbo (much the same thing really!)?
Wow, thought this would at least last past a day!
Well done this man! Yea I've got a Focus RS Lump on its way soon hopefully. My brother has one already and he's already got his engine out!
Excellent!
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I'm already on omex.. So should be no trouble at all to get 250bhp on standard boost, as it's been done before! That's what I'm aiming for and will just up boost a tad if needed to get the 250. I won't accept anything less! The hardest part is getting the engine in there. Got to re-arrange the brake bar! Let alone fitting the rad at the front!
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my god yea thats gonna be real tight

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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo... now turning into a Focus RS Ka
Well it's all now under way and more.. Loads of pictures from the past few weeks - I've been slow to update this thread!
Decided that the FRST engine had to go after wanting more power and having to spend thousands on it to get it anywhere near 250bhp, the Focus RS engine seemed like the best option!
So here goes:
Last pics of engine before it came out..


Burnt out the rubber from mine and my brothers rear gearbox mount to be made solid
no one does uprated engine mounts for the Ka

Focus engine when we got it (still waiting on another!! - for my brother)

Dan's Ka

and mine facing it:

I set about stripping the Focus engine down of all the stuff I don't need
Although I used the alternator and PAS mount (but that one was broken - got another one)

Looking a bit better


Injector looms - one omex adapted FRST (right) and one FRS (left) - unsure what to use, either adapt the Focus one or just use the FRST one.

Focus one is nicer:

I then set about cutting my car apart - as far as I know, no one has fitted a Focus RS engine in a Ka with the radiator in the front! Still, first i cut the slam panel out - it's always been in the way even with the FRST engine there. Caused me grief and a lot of cursing at times! So time to make my own




Scary stuff..
Different shapes don't help!


Then I started making up the new one - and I've never welded before (only watched) So nothing better than to practice on your own car!!

This side was difficult because the metal just after the bend is so thin.. Hard not to blow holes if you get to trigger happy!


Headlight test fit..

The other side - and I think my welding is getting marginally better! Still not great I know!

Finished the passenger side

Then I chopped the cross member out because there isn't enough room for the rad in front of the turbo otherwise!

Welded the rest of the new 'slam' panel in

With both headlights test fitted

New cross member - needs more strengthening though. For this to fit behind the bumper (and I knew this beforehand) I had to take out the plastic re-inforcement bar behind it. I knew all this and a way of moving the cross member thanks to Joey, who did this conversion, but the rad was in the boot - most of you must have heard/seen it!

This is a dummy fit of the Rad - It's an XR2 rad, fits perfectly between the gap and the right height also! The hangers are a mock up in steel. Think I'll do them in aluminium bar so it looks better! and then need to do steel brackets off my new slam panel to hold it at the top .

Then I fitted the alternator in the better place!! Using the Track Designs kit - perfect stuff

I went to the scrapyard this weekend and got another thermstat housing with the sensor threads in - The Focus RS one doesn't have any!
The omex sensor fits straight in the top and my revotec gauge right in the bottom!


Until I came across one problem!

I think I'll put a couple of washers under it, hope I've got enough thread to seal it!
So this is where I am at the moment!
Flywheel is off getting skimmed and balanced, got a clutch. Hopefully getting the engine mounts back this week! or for this weekend and I'll test fit the engine saturday or sunday! Shame it'll have to come back out again to finished welding, grinding, and painting - and some filler on my slam panel so it looks much more presentable!
Should have a steady flow of updates
Decided that the FRST engine had to go after wanting more power and having to spend thousands on it to get it anywhere near 250bhp, the Focus RS engine seemed like the best option!
So here goes:
Last pics of engine before it came out..


Burnt out the rubber from mine and my brothers rear gearbox mount to be made solid

Focus engine when we got it (still waiting on another!! - for my brother)

Dan's Ka

and mine facing it:

I set about stripping the Focus engine down of all the stuff I don't need

Looking a bit better


Injector looms - one omex adapted FRST (right) and one FRS (left) - unsure what to use, either adapt the Focus one or just use the FRST one.

Focus one is nicer:

I then set about cutting my car apart - as far as I know, no one has fitted a Focus RS engine in a Ka with the radiator in the front! Still, first i cut the slam panel out - it's always been in the way even with the FRST engine there. Caused me grief and a lot of cursing at times! So time to make my own




Different shapes don't help!


Then I started making up the new one - and I've never welded before (only watched) So nothing better than to practice on your own car!!

This side was difficult because the metal just after the bend is so thin.. Hard not to blow holes if you get to trigger happy!


Headlight test fit..

The other side - and I think my welding is getting marginally better! Still not great I know!

Finished the passenger side

Then I chopped the cross member out because there isn't enough room for the rad in front of the turbo otherwise!

Welded the rest of the new 'slam' panel in

With both headlights test fitted

New cross member - needs more strengthening though. For this to fit behind the bumper (and I knew this beforehand) I had to take out the plastic re-inforcement bar behind it. I knew all this and a way of moving the cross member thanks to Joey, who did this conversion, but the rad was in the boot - most of you must have heard/seen it!

This is a dummy fit of the Rad - It's an XR2 rad, fits perfectly between the gap and the right height also! The hangers are a mock up in steel. Think I'll do them in aluminium bar so it looks better! and then need to do steel brackets off my new slam panel to hold it at the top .

Then I fitted the alternator in the better place!! Using the Track Designs kit - perfect stuff

I went to the scrapyard this weekend and got another thermstat housing with the sensor threads in - The Focus RS one doesn't have any!
The omex sensor fits straight in the top and my revotec gauge right in the bottom!


Until I came across one problem!

I think I'll put a couple of washers under it, hope I've got enough thread to seal it!
So this is where I am at the moment!
Flywheel is off getting skimmed and balanced, got a clutch. Hopefully getting the engine mounts back this week! or for this weekend and I'll test fit the engine saturday or sunday! Shame it'll have to come back out again to finished welding, grinding, and painting - and some filler on my slam panel so it looks much more presentable!
Should have a steady flow of updates
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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo... now turning into a Focus RS Ka
wow im loving the work man, mental conversion and by god your brave to wanna drive such a small car with that kinda power lol
keep at it man ill keep my eye on this conversion
and the other ka you mentioned with the boot rad, was it the orange/red one i seen last year at fitp? that was fudgekin nuts
heard him running it, my god it made a nice tune
keep at it man ill keep my eye on this conversion
and the other ka you mentioned with the boot rad, was it the orange/red one i seen last year at fitp? that was fudgekin nuts

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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo... now turning into a Focus RS Ka
Looks like you're thinking things through with this conversion
Brave many for doing your first welds on your car
I spent about 4 days in the shed with random bits of steel before I went near mine 
Brave many for doing your first welds on your car
You can use my car when you prise the keys out of my cold dead hands
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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo... now turning into a Focus RS Ka
i like it mate, very good work. will be a flyier when finished? what flywheel/clutch and box you running mate?
is the engine staying standard? also do you have the rear idler pully from the engine?
cheers
is the engine staying standard? also do you have the rear idler pully from the engine?
cheers

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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo... now turning into a Focus RS Ka
jonyb4 :wow im loving the work man, mental conversion and by god your brave to wanna drive such a small car with that kinda power lol
keep at it man ill keep my eye on this conversion
and the other ka you mentioned with the boot rad, was it the orange/red one i seen last year at fitp? that was fudgekin nutsheard him running it, my god it made a nice tune
Cheers!
Nah, the Ka I'm on about is a black one, had ducts through the rear quarter windows, wide arches and comp wheels.
I cant wait, and I'm being really impatient
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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo... now turning into a Focus RS Ka
Sphinx :Looks like you're thinking things through with this conversion![]()
Brave many for doing your first welds on your carI spent about 4 days in the shed with random bits of steel before I went near mine
Sort of yea
cowie20 :i like it mate, very good work. will be a flyier when finished? what flywheel/clutch and box you running mate?
is the engine staying standard? also do you have the rear idler pully from the engine?
cheers
Thanks! Should go really well, will deffo be getting 250bhp out of it no matter what
Flywheel is a 1.8 zetec one (is currently off getting skimmed and balanced. Got a techniclutch 4 paddle to bolt onto my gbox which is fitted with all new bearings 10K ago, a quaife diff, ST150 gears 1-4 and Ka 5th.
Which idler pully? Not sure which one you're talking about
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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo... now turning into a Focus RS Ka
its the pully a back of engine for the belt that runs alt and water pump and pas i think...you would of removed it for fitting alternator at front.
i need it for fitting my belt on my engine...i didnt want to spend 180 for TD kit. even tho it looks a very nice bit of kit.
can i have you box?
i need it for fitting my belt on my engine...i didnt want to spend 180 for TD kit. even tho it looks a very nice bit of kit.
can i have you box?

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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo... now turning into a Focus RS Ka
i love ka's with big engines in, so quick
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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo... now turning into a Focus RS Ka
mental conversion !
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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo... now turning into a Focus RS Ka
great work if anything happened to my car i would put the engine in a ka


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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo... now turning into a Focus RS Ka
Cowie, my engine didn't come with the PAS, so not sure whether it was taken off then. I don't have a spare pulley, The only one which came off was the plastic one you see back on in the track designs kit half way up the engine.
Sorry
My box is pretty good!
but you can't have it, as I'm using it! Cost me £750 in parts alone, and built it with some help for freee! 
Sorry
My box is pretty good!
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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo... now turning into a Focus RS Ka
Found out the FRST regulator fits nicely onto the end of the zetec rail
to give me adjustable pressure. Thank you Ford!

Update of tonight's antics - I needed to make some tabs for one of the mounting points of the headlights. Not completely finished but basically there. They need a hole and thread in and the metalwork to be tidied up. All which will look good I hope once some filler is applied!
Welding getting better?
tabs look awful here, they do get better..




Was a nightmare trying to hold the metal in the right place! Was trying to use a G-clamp but kept slipping off and wasn't holding very well!

Update of tonight's antics - I needed to make some tabs for one of the mounting points of the headlights. Not completely finished but basically there. They need a hole and thread in and the metalwork to be tidied up. All which will look good I hope once some filler is applied!
Welding getting better?




Was a nightmare trying to hold the metal in the right place! Was trying to use a G-clamp but kept slipping off and wasn't holding very well!
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Re: Another Ka RS Turbo... now turning into a Focus RS Ka
llama i bet it was hard to hold
awesome effort there though, takes nerves to cut up the cross members all that will look fresh as powder coated in black

awesome effort there though, takes nerves to cut up the cross members all that will look fresh as powder coated in black

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