Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - (Update: 21/01/11 - RR!)

Post pics of your Fiesta here.

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - RR results :) (07/06/10)

Postby Ruishy1 on Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:59 pm

Some nice results there, was actually looking at a ka today to do a 2.0 conversion, but the rust was too bad :(
Image
Ruishy1
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 4006
Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:43 pm
Location: Sunny Kilmarnock

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - RR results :) (07/06/10)

Postby jayrs on Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:25 pm

excellent mate!

shame about the clutch, but you can get it lined which is cheaper than buying a brand new one
jayrs
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 31520
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:32 pm
Location: I.O.W
Your car: FRST, XR2, ST170, ST225

Car: 1991 Ford Fiesta RS Turbo

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - IT RUNS! (26/05/10)

Postby knuckles on Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:20 pm

moondustka :Image


im guessing speed bumps are out the question :lol:

Totd are really good. They have done my Rs twice on the rolling road and both times got it running spot on and cured all my problems.
I take my hat off to you for taking up the challange of getting such a monsterous engine into a tiny ka bay.
When i saw a cvh turbo lump in the bay i was shocked. this is amazing to see :D

would love to be there to see a cocky bmw driver when you and your ka wastes it on a straight :D :lol:
ImageImage
~nomad~ :Good god I love Clark.
knuckles
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 6841
Joined: Thu May 19, 2005 2:40 pm
Location: Hertfordshire
Your car: Fiesta Rs turbo

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - IT RUNS! (26/05/10)

Postby moondustka on Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:11 pm

knuckles :
moondustka :would love to be there to see a cocky bmw driver when you and your ka wastes it on a straight :D :lol:


I must say that is exactly why I do this, not only cos the Ka handles well and it's light, still feels relatively modern inside, but for that. It's just the look on someone's face when my girls car comes out of nowhere :lol:

Not sure whether this 4 paddle is up to the job, but the only way up in 220mm clutches is a custom job :(

Thanks for all the comments!! Although I'll definitely be putting up some pictures when the boost hoses are done..

It looks tired from the photos already and I've only just built it!! Just of question of slowly going round it and replacing rusty bolts etc etc.

Speed bumps are actually not too bad!! I've been over those nasty black and yellow ones, you now the ones that are like blocks put together and really short..

The boost pipe underneath is the lowest - just slightly higher than the lower arm casings but of course further from the wheel!!

Also, anyone have any ideas of how to keep boost hoses and water hoses together if you don't have a tube beading tool! (they're sooo expensive!)
moondustka
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1178
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:17 pm
Location: Surrey

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - RR results :) (07/06/10)

Postby jonyb4 on Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:09 am

you and this car are legends

i foresee a fast ford feature, give them an email! and a link to this thread :Q
Image
1800 Zetec 133bhp 140lbs/ft
mk2 pop 1.4i
jonyb4
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 9235
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:05 am
Location: Port Talbot, South Wales
Your car: Si 1.8, mk2 950, 2.0 capri

Car: 1995 Ford Fiesta Si 16v

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - RR results :) (07/06/10)

Postby moondustka on Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:08 pm

jonyb4 :you and this car are legends

i foresee a fast ford feature, give them an email! and a link to this thread :Q


Cheers Mate :)

My mate knows the guy for this area. Fast Ford and Performance ford have been asking for the last 18 months :lol:
moondustka
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1178
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:17 pm
Location: Surrey

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - RR results :) (07/06/10)

Postby jonyb4 on Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:17 pm

really :lol:

why you keeping them waiting then lol?
Image
1800 Zetec 133bhp 140lbs/ft
mk2 pop 1.4i
jonyb4
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 9235
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:05 am
Location: Port Talbot, South Wales
Your car: Si 1.8, mk2 950, 2.0 capri

Car: 1995 Ford Fiesta Si 16v

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - RR results :) (07/06/10)

Postby Ruishy1 on Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:22 pm

you need to go hunting mate and take some vids, this would previde some immense entertainment for all :D
Image
Ruishy1
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 4006
Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:43 pm
Location: Sunny Kilmarnock

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - RR results :) (07/06/10)

Postby moondustka on Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:51 pm

jonyb4 :really :lol:

why you keeping them waiting then lol?



Because I'm never happy with the car! :lol:

Ruishy1 :you need to go hunting mate and take some vids, this would previde some immense entertainment for all :D


I will get my mate to take some when i car is more together in terms of boost hoses etc. :) What's amusing is putting the pedal down in any gear and wheelspinning, even in 5th at whatever speed :lol: Need some better tyres!
moondustka
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1178
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:17 pm
Location: Surrey

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - RR results :) (07/06/10)

Postby jonyb4 on Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:59 pm

:lol: id love to get that, i can only spin 2nd in the wet, and thats hammering it big time!

was trying to time a 0-60 sprint :P in the wet ffs! im such a bell :oops:
Image
1800 Zetec 133bhp 140lbs/ft
mk2 pop 1.4i
jonyb4
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 9235
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:05 am
Location: Port Talbot, South Wales
Your car: Si 1.8, mk2 950, 2.0 capri

Car: 1995 Ford Fiesta Si 16v

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - RR results :) (07/06/10)

Postby crazycage on Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:17 pm

get some 888s on the front of it mate :D and the only clutch that will stand a chance is the helix 4 paddle with the extra heavy duty cover ! been there done that lol before i went to the mtx :) i have the part nom if you need it .

p-s its the torque the zetec makes that kills the clutch when loading it up low down on the rollers or out mapping ect.

300hp in that will be very quick off the line with the 888s!! sub 5sec's to 60mph and 12s on the 1/4 mile easy but the box will never last long :x beast of a car good luck with it.
Image
crazycage
Post Master
Post Master
 
Posts: 934
Joined: Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:24 pm
Location: under my car

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - RR results :) (07/06/10)

Postby moondustka on Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:42 pm

crazycage :get some 888s on the front of it mate :D and the only clutch that will stand a chance is the helix 4 paddle with the extra heavy duty cover ! been there done that lol before i went to the mtx :) i have the part nom if you need it .

p-s its the torque the zetec makes that kills the clutch when loading it up low down on the rollers or out mapping ect.

300hp in that will be very quick off the line with the 888s!! sub 5sec's to 60mph and 12s on the 1/4 mile easy but the box will never last long :x beast of a car good luck with it.


Going to sort out the R888s on another set of wheels when funds allow..

How much is that Helix 4 paddle (Is it this: Series Part No. 77-2000 on their website)? is it 220mm? and why's it better than the AP one?

My box should be fine I reckon.. I can't see it breaking?? well hopefully. Quaife ATB, ST150 1-4th. !st and 2nd gears of those are shot penned also I'm led to believe!

Cheers for the info mate!!
moondustka
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1178
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:17 pm
Location: Surrey

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - RR results :) (07/06/10)

Postby crazycage on Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:19 pm

moondustka :
crazycage :get some 888s on the front of it mate :D and the only clutch that will stand a chance is the helix 4 paddle with the extra heavy duty cover ! been there done that lol before i went to the mtx :) i have the part nom if you need it .

p-s its the torque the zetec makes that kills the clutch when loading it up low down on the rollers or out mapping ect.

300hp in that will be very quick off the line with the 888s!! sub 5sec's to 60mph and 12s on the 1/4 mile easy but the box will never last long :x beast of a car good luck with it.


Going to sort out the R888s on another set of wheels when funds allow..

How much is that Helix 4 paddle (Is it this: Series Part No. 77-2000 on their website)? is it 220mm? and why's it better than the AP one?

My box should be fine I reckon.. I can't see it breaking?? well hopefully. Quaife ATB, ST150 1-4th. !st and 2nd gears of those are shot penned also I'm led to believe!

Cheers for the info mate!!


no mate the part nom is 60-5075 its mega heavy on the left foot tho :( and yes its 220mm ,i have ran every clutch going in my zetec turbo when on the bc/ib5 box and that is the only one that can take the torque ,the ap one is only rated to 230ftlbs and thats fine on big power cvh's because they never make 300+ftlbs .

the box is still the weak link imo :cry: its a ticking time bomb with that kind of power
Image
crazycage
Post Master
Post Master
 
Posts: 934
Joined: Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:24 pm
Location: under my car

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - RR results :) (07/06/10)

Postby moondustka on Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:45 pm

Cheers for that! Whats the torque rating on that clutch?!

Aren't the CV joints the weakest link?
moondustka
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1178
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:17 pm
Location: Surrey

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - RR results :) (07/06/10)

Postby jonyb4 on Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:07 pm

crazy you using mechanical clutch cable? his ka should have a hydrualic, should be less of a effort to push it
Image
1800 Zetec 133bhp 140lbs/ft
mk2 pop 1.4i
jonyb4
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 9235
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:05 am
Location: Port Talbot, South Wales
Your car: Si 1.8, mk2 950, 2.0 capri

Car: 1995 Ford Fiesta Si 16v

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - RR results :) (07/06/10)

Postby moondustka on Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:25 pm

Mine is hydraulic..

Crazy uses the mtx box which means he muct be using a hydraulic clutch - but obviously not sure about before when he was using these clutches.
moondustka
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1178
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:17 pm
Location: Surrey

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - RR results :) (07/06/10)

Postby moondustka on Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:00 pm

little update..

had a porblem with the water system where the pump was pumping water into the header tank and moving the air to the top rad hose! I did get to bottom of it eventually..

Started by replacing this t piece with larger outlet to water pump..

Image

to this..

Image

That didn't have much effect, so thought I hadn't got the expansion pipes right as there is an extra one on the FRS, so got the rad out and got an outlet welded on the corner!

Image

back apart again..

Image

But that didn't sort it either! Then I realised the only thing that's different is the header tank is plumbed separately all the way to the bottom rad hose.. Did that and all was ok :)

Made it bloody tight here though! But a p clip later and it's fine..

Image

Cleaned up the rocker cover and replaced the bolts for stainless steel :Q I've got a stainless steel bug now and I'm slowly replacing all the bolts :lol:

Image

Also had this package arrive :D

Image

Image

And started to fit them.. Few more to arrive yet to complete it

Image

Re-doing the expansion hoses too so more pics to follow and boost system should be finished tomorrow :)
moondustka
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1178
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:17 pm
Location: Surrey

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - RR results :) (07/06/10)

Postby jayrs on Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:00 pm

looking good mate, final stages now :Q
jayrs
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 31520
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:32 pm
Location: I.O.W
Your car: FRST, XR2, ST170, ST225

Car: 1991 Ford Fiesta RS Turbo

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - (Update: 18/06/10)

Postby lachojski2005 on Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:44 pm

any update on this.really want to see this finished and up and running.amazing how much work has gone into this.
Image
lachojski2005
Post Master
Post Master
 
Posts: 792
Joined: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:42 pm
Location: Nottingham

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - (Update: 18/06/10)

Postby Dave_B on Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:44 pm

the update is after all his hard work bens treated himself to a break so 2 weeks in spain!

the car should be at ford fair on the ka klub stand and will certainly attract a few looks.

the second focus rs ka is also made and running so there is 2 in the family. his brothers was mapped at 260brake and is just as good.

ill let ben update when he is back.

dave
14.41 1/4 mile @ 96.95mph 0.088s reaction :-o
Image
Dave_B
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 2135
Joined: Sun Feb 09, 2003 3:29 pm
Location: Croydon

Car: 1991 Ford Fiesta RS Turbo

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - (Update: 18/06/10)

Postby moondustka on Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:54 pm

Cheers Dave!

Well I couldn't update for ages as photobucket said I'd exceeded the bandwidth :( rubbish..

Here goes - pics tell the story :)

Air filter really isn't as red as that - dodgy picture!

Image

Expansion hoes re-done..

Image

Image

Heat wrapped downpipe

Image

Image

Painted coilpack bracket

Image

Image

Painted this standard heatshield, fitted it but didn't like it - it was bent and tried to get it back but just didnt look right!

Image

I then decided I wasn't happy with the paint under the scuttle panel and the turrets..

Image

Image

Image

Painted and started putting back together:

Image

I then found some holes!! There were more but no pics :( so the whole car went to the bodyshop while I was away and is still there now..

Image

Image

Next update will be after Ford Fair - I'll have Friday night and Sat to put both bumpers on, waxoil behind them, put a rear door card on, the rear seats, get 2 new tyres fitted - tracking done and any last minute preps before Sunday! :o
moondustka
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1178
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:17 pm
Location: Surrey

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - (Update: 31/07/10)

Postby jayrs on Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:09 pm

fingers crossed you get it sorted in time mate, hate the rush before fordfair.
i planned to tinker and clean her up for the week before FF but now i will have 3 days
jayrs
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 31520
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:32 pm
Location: I.O.W
Your car: FRST, XR2, ST170, ST225

Car: 1991 Ford Fiesta RS Turbo

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - (Update: 31/07/10)

Postby garyhurn77 on Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:12 pm

good progress make a start on dans now then??
Image
garyhurn77
Post Master
Post Master
 
Posts: 906
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:57 am
Location: magor, south wales

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - (Update: 31/07/10)

Postby moondustka on Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:38 pm

jayrs :fingers crossed you get it sorted in time mate, hate the rush before fordfair.
i planned to tinker and clean her up for the week before FF but now i will have 3 days


I will make it even if I need redbull on a drip on the drive up :lol:

garyhurn77 :good progress make a start on dans now then??


Dan's is done Gary! Should both be at FF this weekend. Don't suppose you're going?
moondustka
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1178
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:17 pm
Location: Surrey

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - (Update: 31/07/10)

Postby Dave_B on Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:38 pm

I admire that response ben... They "should" both be at ford fair!!

It will be awesome to see them both there! You've both put the effort in that's for sure!!
14.41 1/4 mile @ 96.95mph 0.088s reaction :-o
Image
Dave_B
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 2135
Joined: Sun Feb 09, 2003 3:29 pm
Location: Croydon

Car: 1991 Ford Fiesta RS Turbo

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - (Update: 31/07/10)

Postby jayrs on Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:07 pm

red bull on drip :lol: :lol: :lol:
jayrs
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 31520
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:32 pm
Location: I.O.W
Your car: FRST, XR2, ST170, ST225

Car: 1991 Ford Fiesta RS Turbo

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - (Update: 31/07/10)

Postby moondustka on Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:23 pm

Ha..

Don't what state mine is at yet, haven't seen it.

Dan's however will more than likely miss sunday now :(
moondustka
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1178
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:17 pm
Location: Surrey

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - (Update: 31/07/10)

Postby scouse-sambo on Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:51 pm

Just read through this thread... what a car!! Excellent work mate :Q
scouse-sambo
Senior Poster
Senior Poster
 
Posts: 305
Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:35 pm

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - (Update: 31/07/10)

Postby decked on Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:33 pm

hello chap few questions for ya wot flywheel did u use wot starter an gearbox also wots the slave cylinder from wot shafts an wots the clutch from lol sorry for all the questions got very similair set up in a zetec s fiesta but got a few problems
decked
Newbie Poster
Newbie Poster
 
Posts: 41
Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:05 pm

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - (Update: 31/07/10)

Postby decked on Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:35 pm

one more thing does ur drivers side shaft have the bearing carrier bolted to the block if so is it the rs 1
decked
Newbie Poster
Newbie Poster
 
Posts: 41
Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:05 pm

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - (Update: 31/07/10)

Postby ~nomad~ on Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:35 pm

fudgekin love this car
Image
:2004 Merc Vito: - :1983 Nissan Datsun 280zx: - :1992 GT Pro Series: - :2012 Mondraker Dune R:
~nomad~
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 12504
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2002 12:00 am
Location: hertfordshire
Your car: Breadvan

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - (Update: 31/07/10)

Postby moondustka on Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:11 pm

scouse-sambo :Just read through this thread... what a car!! Excellent work mate :Q


Thanks :)

decked :hello chap few questions for ya wot flywheel did u use wot starter an gearbox also wots the slave cylinder from wot shafts an wots the clutch from lol sorry for all the questions got very similair set up in a zetec s fiesta but got a few problems


Gearbox is Ka IB5
Flywheel is 1.8 Zetec
Clutch is Fiesta RS turbo 4 paddle (AP one, but it's crap for this power)
Release bearing is Ka
Shafts are standard 1.3, CV joints seems to be ok! Drivers side shaft just has the weight on it

~nomad~ :fudgekin love this car


Thanks mate :)
moondustka
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1178
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:17 pm
Location: Surrey

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - (Update: 31/07/10)

Postby ~nomad~ on Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:28 pm

just read whole thread lol, about embark on a ka myself, nothing as serious thou lol
Image
:2004 Merc Vito: - :1983 Nissan Datsun 280zx: - :1992 GT Pro Series: - :2012 Mondraker Dune R:
~nomad~
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 12504
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2002 12:00 am
Location: hertfordshire
Your car: Breadvan

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - (Update: 31/07/10)

Postby decked on Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:26 am

top man an was the omex a pan in the arse to put iin
decked
Newbie Poster
Newbie Poster
 
Posts: 41
Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:05 pm

Re: Focus RS conversion for the Ka! - (Update: 31/07/10)

Postby jayrs on Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:01 am

wheres the finished pictures from the body shop then fella :)
jayrs
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 31520
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:32 pm
Location: I.O.W
Your car: FRST, XR2, ST170, ST225

Car: 1991 Ford Fiesta RS Turbo

PreviousNext