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Postby turboben1 on Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:15 pm

i am using 4x4 discs and escort cossie calipers but the threaded holes in the carrier that bolt to the hub are bigger than the standard bolt. do i just drill out the hole or do i use a different carrier
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Postby turboben1 on Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:16 am

turboben1 :i am using 4x4 discs and escort cossie calipers but the threaded holes in the carrier that bolt to the hub are bigger than the standard bolt. do i just drill out the hole or do i use a different carrier


anyone got an answer to this please please please
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Postby turboben1 on Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:16 am

turboben1 :i am using 4x4 discs and escort cossie calipers but the threaded holes in the carrier that bolt to the hub are bigger than the standard bolt. do i just drill out the hole or do i use a different carrier


anyone got an answer to this please please please
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Postby lucasdemoley on Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:13 pm

Will these breaks fit on a fiesta mk3.5 si, and under 15" volcano rims?
( the ones on the back of deemon tweeks cataloug).
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Postby TIL13R on Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:48 am

:o really good guide am going to try this soon :D

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Postby VUK on Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:43 pm

my calipers run on the rim, i have to use 5mm spacers!!

anyone else ahving this?

got escort 15" rims
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Postby lucasdemoley on Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:16 pm

Yeh, depends what alloys you have. Just misses mine. I will say use threadlock, as one of the bolts droped out of mine, and i overtighten everything!
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Postby VUK on Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:31 am

its a pain cos now the tyre rubs on the wheel arch!

might grind down the caliper
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Postby lucasdemoley on Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:26 pm

Yeh, ive heard people having to grind it down abit before. Just dont take off too much!
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Postby VUK on Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:49 pm

lucasdemoley :Yeh, ive heard people having to grind it down abit before. Just dont take off too much!


well 5mm lol

i got tarox discs and red stuff pads, stops like nothing i'v ever driven, your organs shift fowards lol
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Postby weegee on Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:30 pm

can anyone confirm that mondeo 4x4 calipers fit? hoping to do this at the weekend.

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Postby D.J on Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:37 am

weegee :can anyone confirm that mondeo 4x4 calipers fit? hoping to do this at the weekend.

thanks


I'm gonna have a go on the Puma this weekend.

Have a look here....

http://www.pumapeople.com/index.php?showtopic=65163

and here....

http://www.zsoc.com/portal/showthread.p ... ight=brake

and here...

http://www.zsoc.com/portal/showthread.p ... ke+upgrade

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Postby gazzm on Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:01 pm

hi would sierra xr4x4 biscs and calipers fit thanks.
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Postby E4Fiesta on Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:29 pm

So you use the original carriers with cosworth pads, discs and calipers?

I have 15inch mondeo alloys, is this gonna be a prob? :-?
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Postby clarks.2007 on Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:18 am

I have a mondeo v6 ive bought, and the caliper wont bolt on due to the bolds being m14 instead of m10 am i just doing something wrong or if i drill them out will they be ok? These are off the mk2 mondeo? Please help!! thanks scott :-?
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Postby lucasdemoley on Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:19 pm

Which bit are you wanting to drill, the carrier? I'd have thought aslong as your only taking a tiny bit way so that the bolt can pass through and that there is still plenty of metal left then it should be ok.

Just because i feel like it, and ive just found the pic, this is how close mine run on some i think tsw alloys i have,

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Postby nathwright86 on Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:08 pm

hi ive just bought a set of 2wd 4 pot cossie calipers hoping to put them on my mk 3 xr2i woth 300 mm discs am running 16" wheels so clearance not an issue but after readin all this am gettin worried as to wether they wil fit or not?? any help would be aprecieated! cheers .nath
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Postby fray on Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:36 am

reading it through i think it says that only the 4x4 sierra cossie setup fits mate not the 2wd
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Postby Tweek on Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:49 am

As above, only 4x4 sierra cossie brakes fit, not 2wd.
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Postby fiesta crazy on Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:14 pm

I really want to do this upgrade (because i like to stop when i want, not when my fez feels like it) the disc that i have at the moment are just solid not ABS, does this mean that it wont work on mine?

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Postby nathwright86 on Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:37 am

no it should work fine. ive discoverd that you do have to use 4x4 calipers of either escort or sierra as 4 2wd 4 pot brakes although better have 2 sets of brake lines going in and the fiesta only has one you can bridge these to make it work but it will not pass an mot so you would have to put ur old calipers and discs back on for the mot once a a year (really such a hardship?) but the most simple method is to use 4x4 calipers and 289/300mm discs agian 4x4 (note you will need to be running at least 16" rims to clear the discs) i would also advise to get a set of decent braided lines n put them on while your at it heres a number of great place i use they make up brake lines to order and can sort you out for not a lot of dosh RSM MOTORSPORT LTD 01524 844066 OR EMAIL SALES@RSMMOTORSPORT.CO.UK http://WWW.RSMMOTORSPORT.CO.UK hope this helps and if you after a set of cossie calipers ive got a set front and back for sale £100 deliverd gis a an email pine.designs@hotmail.co.uk
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Postby Tweek on Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:06 pm

4x4 cossie discs are 280mm. Really is a straight forward conversion =)
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Postby nathwright86 on Sat May 24, 2008 8:28 pm

for sale 130 bhp fiesta xr2i moondust silver mint condition lowerd big brake conversion lots of extras call or email nath on pine.designs@hotmail.co.uk/07894137721
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Postby Cosmo on Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:44 am

Hi all. Just been speed reading this topic and there seems to be a lot of confusion with disc /caliper combinations.

all the answers are in the very first post,

but with regard to the mention of Mk2 Mondeo 24 V6 calipers, forget them as they use a 278 mm disc but smaller pads (due to a caliper, carrier set-up and a Ford cost cutting exersise) than a 4x4 Cosworth.

If you are shopping for calipers for this conversion though you are going to find that the 4x4 Sapphire Cosworth and Escort Cosworth will come at a premium price.

But, all MK 1 24 V6 MONDEO'S and 24V COSWORTH GRANADA/SCORPIO have the calipers you require, as they are the same parts as fitted to 4x4 Cosworth's, and are cheap as chips.

If you want to be realy flash though, go to your local Aston Martin dealer though and get a set of calipers for an early DB7, as they use the same one's too.

Mk 1 24V V6 MONDEO pad's are also available without wear indicators too, so are cheaper as a result.
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Postby rowley63 on Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:56 am

Any Chance Of A Guide On Bleeding The Brakes?

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Postby Pastieman on Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:23 pm

just got me some cossy 4x4 calipers, escort cos front pads and disc will do this in a few weekends time :)

to bleed the brakes what you wannado is:

you need a bottle with a long rubber tube to fit over the brakes nipples to catch all brake fluid being pumped out... and correct spanners to undo nipples.

this is a two man job with out any pressure systems used....

get a buddy to sit in the car front wheels are of the ground with wheels off...

make sure master cylinder bottle is full of brake fluid.

starting from the furthest nipple on the rear axle first then work forwards towards the front to get all air out.

right get your buddy to pump footbrake four times then hold it down.
crack of nipple til fluid as been released.
retighten nipple
get him to pump it again and holdit down
crack nipple again
re tighten
keep doing this til all air bubbles can't be seen in the tube going into the catch bottle.

do this with each nipple at each corner... after doing each nipple check and top up master cylinder bottle

after doing last nipple up after all air is out check pedal should be hard start car up check if it is spongy or goes to the floor.

if it does then re do the above again with engine running the servo may help the rest of the air out.

once pedal is all good with engine running road test :)

just a crude quick guide
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Postby Pastieman on Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:35 pm

right just been looking at my cozzy calipers now the carries don't have m10 bolt fittings looks like m12 to me....

so do you use the frst carrier with the cozzy caliper
or do you just use the cozzy carrier and calipers and inlarge the hole in the hub for the bolt to pass though

many people have asked this question and it hasn't been answered and also its not clear in the guide?

or i will just have to find out when i come to do it ( as i'm lazy someone just answer this for me please, can't be arsed to fook about, i gotta fook about with other things on the RS )
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Postby Pastieman on Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:12 pm

just double checked my calipers and carriers they are the same as in the pics so i do have the right ones.... but the m10 bolts i have are too small to fit the carrier...

the guy i bought the calipers off gave me the original carrier bolts m12's which where on the sierra cos 4x4

haven't put these up to the hub as of yet will do this next weekend, will let you all know how i get on

don't think these bolts will go through the hub, ( not even checked yet ) might just have to open hub locating hole up a bit to fit m12 bolts in to bolt up carrier to hub :)
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Postby Tweek on Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:22 am

I thought the Sierra Cossie brakes were different to the Escort? Escort ones use the same bolts as the FRST although you need slightly longer ones
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Postby Pastieman on Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:53 pm

[quote="Tweek"]I thought the Sierra Cossie brakes were different to the Escort? Escort ones use the same bolts as the FRST although you need slightly longer ones[/quote]

this is what i'm thinking mate as i don't have a set of escort cosworth calipers to check... but other than that i'm sure they are the same
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Postby Pastieman on Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:00 pm

yep sierra calipers need the frst hub holes opened up slighty to fit bolts through bit of piss then just do the same as above :) space out the pad carriers 5mm and bobs your uncle
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Postby 95 Fiesta SI on Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:48 am

Yer, i done mine yesterday with the cossie 4x4 calipers and discs. I used the larger bolts with the cossie carrier plates. I used a 10mm drill bit (The biggest i had) and just wiggled it around the holes on the hub to enlarge them, until the large bolts fitted through them. I used 2 penny spacers on each bolt between the hub and the carrier plate to give me the correct offset. Also running 3mm wheel spacers on 16" mondeo 5 spokes, just to give some clearnce of the caliper, which worked out ok cause the wheels were very close to the suspension strut anyway.
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Postby gcodin on Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:31 pm

[quote="95 Fiesta SI"]Yer, i done mine yesterday with the cossie 4x4 calipers and discs. I used the larger bolts with the cossie carrier plates. I used a 10mm drill bit (The biggest i had) and just wiggled it around the holes on the hub to enlarge them, until the large bolts fitted through them. I used 2 penny spacers on each bolt between the hub and the carrier plate to give me the correct offset. Also running 3mm wheel spacers on 16" mondeo 5 spokes, just to give some clearnce of the caliper, which worked out ok cause the wheels were very close to the suspension strut anyway.[/quote]

Had any problems with the 16's ?I'm just buying a pair of cossie calipers and looking to do the conversion myself this week.
I don't have any spacers on my car :D

Regards!
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Postby 95 Fiesta SI on Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:32 pm

[quote="gcodin"]
Had any problems with the 16's ?I'm just buying a pair of cossie calipers and looking to do the conversion myself this week.
I don't have any spacers on my car :D
Regards![/quote]
Depends on the design of the wheel mate. Mine are 16" Mondeo 5 spoke ones and they only just clear the calipers. If you find your wheels catch the calipers get some 3mm wheel spacers for extra clearance. Got mine on ebay for like £10.
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Postby gcodin on Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:40 pm

[quote="95 Fiesta SI"][quote="gcodin"]
Had any problems with the 16's ?I'm just buying a pair of cossie calipers and looking to do the conversion myself this week.
I don't have any spacers on my car :D
Regards![/quote]
Depends on the design of the wheel mate. Mine are 16" Mondeo 5 spoke ones and they only just clear the calipers. If you find your wheels catch the calipers get some 3mm wheel spacers for extra clearance. Got mine on ebay for like £10.[/quote]

Got the same rims as you mate,that's why I asked :D
Thank you for the info! :)
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