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[black2]

Update 20/04/10

After a long wait my pipes have turned up.

Had to put a new track rod end on the mrs Puma this evening but after doing this i had a little look at my new pipes on the B reg. Its not as straight forward as i would have liked but thats purley down to the fact there is'nt much room in a mk2 fiesta engine bay The bottom hose had to be trimmed down each end, which made me feel a bit sick really one because they cost so much bloody money and secondly i was worried about fudgekin them up and having to wait another 2 months for a new one. It does now fit on the water pump and and the bottom rad connection but there is a slight kink which is less than ideal really but its the best its going to get.

Tomorrow evening then i will be putting all the jubalee clips on tightening them all up and filling it with coolant so i can start it and let it idle to check for leeks etc and to see if the fan will cut in and out as it should. (cheers to rs220bhp fpr the fan ) Then then only things to finish off after this is to bolt the exhaust up and get a boss welded in the ally boost pipe to feed my iscv basically like the boss on the standard frst turbo cross over pipe.

Will try and get some pics tomorrow evening.

Gareth.

[Ruishy1]

top notch

[jonyb4]

awsome mate, can t wait to see it running, geta video up

[jayrs]

nice mate.
althought i would fit the exhaust before starting it up

[black2]

Well where to start. Not a good evening on the car and im afraid its curtains for the whole zetec turbo idea. THe engine will be removed and I shall be fitting my old 2.0l lump back in and returning it to how it was.

Basically the order of play tonight was fill the coolant up, and try and run it see whats what. The car starts perfect but this is where the plus points end, it smokes like nothing ive seen before basically the turbo is totally shot. Then the coolant keeps presurising and blowing water everywhere due to the fact the bottom hose is kinked.

So i refuse to spend another penny on the whole zt thing so im cutting my losses and moving on. I suppose some times in life you learn the hard way and in the process get your fingers burnt, but ive enjoyed getting it to this stage and if it was'nt in a mk2 shell maybe a mk3 fiesta or an escort then i would maybe percerver with it because i could easily swop to a t3 turbo and do away with the issue with the bottom hose but not easily done in this shell hence refusing to spend any more money on it.

So now the plan is to put it back how it was - which to be honest was fine it was more than fast enough, returned decent fuel economy and was reliable so thats what its going back to.

Updates soon.


Gareth.

[Ruishy1]

dont give up so quick mate, take a step back and relax.
thats not the biggest probs in the world, a small amount of time and effort is all thats needed, alot less than changing back to the NA

[jonyb4]

aww mate thats a bummer

mind you he has a point for the effort of swapping a turbo, and little more money and perseverance, you will have good power

its less effort then swapping engines back

hope you sort it out mate, i like this car

[MK4 Rick]

dont convert back mate,fix it get another turbo or something.you have come along way with it to go back

[jayrs]

thats a $hiter mate its easy to say get another turbo etc etc, but where do you stop spending money, so for your reasons i think your doing the right thing mate

[black2]

thats a $hiter mate its easy to say get another turbo etc etc, but where do you stop spending money, so for your reasons i think your doing the right thing mate

You've hit the nail on the head Jay - I could get this turbo recon'd but thats going to cost at least 300 - 400 if not more, on top of this the inlet manifold is leeking air somewhere and to top it all off the fan was to close to the exhaust manifold and has started to warp the plastic. So that would mean having to chop the car at the front a bit to get the fan around the other side of the rad. All of which I am not prepared to do when I know I have a decent reliable and quick na 2.0l in the garage.

The only other thing I have thought about is putting a cvh turbo lump it it but again im not prepard to spend anymore money on it. Plus I already have an FRST so I can just drive that when I want to enjoy turbo power.

Its not all a downer though some of the parts ive bought i can still ise like my new roose hoses they will fit the old set up, my new spark plugs can be used etc the rest of the stuff i bought will simply be sold on, things like the ofac ecu, map sensor and MSD chip so i will get some money back.

I still think one day I will built a zt but it defo will not be in the mk2 shell and it will be using a T3 as with using the T2 theres just not enough room.


Gareth.

[cowie20]

not good mate but see where you your coming from. its a not the cheapest route, even a budget zt can start to mount up.

what you doing with the engine? depending price i know someone who might take this off you.

you could sell it and get a nice set of bike carbs or a cheap throttle body setup for the N/A 2ltr.

[jayrs]

thats a $hiter mate its easy to say get another turbo etc etc, but where do you stop spending money, so for your reasons i think your doing the right thing mate

You've hit the nail on the head Jay - I could get this turbo recon'd but thats going to cost at least 300 - 400 if not more, on top of this the inlet manifold is leeking air somewhere and to top it all off the fan was to close to the exhaust manifold and has started to warp the plastic. So that would mean having to chop the car at the front a bit to get the fan around the other side of the rad. All of which I am not prepared to do when I know I have a decent reliable and quick na 2.0l in the garage.

The only other thing I have thought about is putting a cvh turbo lump it it but again im not prepard to spend anymore money on it. Plus I already have an FRST so I can just drive that when I want to enjoy turbo power.

Its not all a downer though some of the parts ive bought i can still ise like my new roose hoses they will fit the old set up, my new spark plugs can be used etc the rest of the stuff i bought will simply be sold on, things like the ofac ecu, map sensor and MSD chip so i will get some money back.

I still think one day I will built a zt but it defo will not be in the mk2 shell and it will be using a T3 as with using the T2 theres just not enough room.


Gareth.

even if you went T3 youre have problems with space, more so than with the T2, youe have to cut the front panel, some people have even cut the box section and plated it to allow room for the down pipe, worth it if thats what you want and will stick with it, but not if you have other plan or would rather not cut about.
same story with my mk2, i'll be fittingd brand new panels, and as much as i really do want the quad lights, im not 100% sure if i want to cut the bit out in the light pockets on the front panel to do it, as its needed for std lights

out of intrest, what is the chip you got? a 165 or a 195? oir is it programmed for the set up you were gunna do?

[black2]

Had a spare hour today and stripped the engine ready to quickly drop out during the week.

Removed both manifolds, radiator, intercooler and fan. Dis-connected all the wiring and removed the ecu.

Engine will be removed one evening in the week and i will then start to convert it all back to run the na 2.0l setup which means taking the bloody dash out again!

Please see this thread if your interested in buying any parts listed as im selling it all off again.

zetec-turbo-frst-parts-vt184430/

Will get some pictures later and more updates during the week.

Gareth.

[black2]

Engine now out.

That is all.

Gareth.

[jonyb4]

[jayrs]

come on, stop slacking

[black2]

Update.













As you can see the zt is out and stripped of the fly wheel etc. Need to fit the clutch to the na zetec bolt the box up etc. Also want to replace the cam seals on the silver engine and the cam cover gasket needs renewing as well.

Gareth.

[jayrs]

is a shame about the other engine mate, would of been a good little motor, still, wont take much longer to get that other lump back in

good job you never flogged it

[black2]

Jay i keep thinkig the same really i never even got to drive it I have no doubt it would have been a riot to drive but it all came down to money in the end im afraid. Maybe one day i will build a zt but it wont be destined for a mk2 fiesta.

THe other engine is ready to slot back in now, fly wheel clutch and gear box are all bolted up now. Just need to re-fit the zetec loom.........again

Gareth.

[jayrs]

yeah i know what ya mean mate, you got to stop spending money some time.

still other one is ready to go back in so its all good fella

[jonyb4]

it is a pity, but you can anticipate the Zetec turbo to build in the future

you'd probs be to glad to be back in the mk2 once its done anyway

[black2]

The car is a runner again

Big thanks to sjoyce666 for supplying me with an si loom at such short notice the car would not be running with out that so cheers chap.

Like i say i got it running today been for a drive and it feels like i never took the engine out! It did smoke quite a bit to start with which i have no idea why? but after 10 or so miles it all cleared and now theres nothing.

Still need to tidy all the bay wiring, tidy inside car, etc etc but im jst glad its finished and running again.

THe cr looks a right mess atm, the paint is faded and the plastics look grey not black will be cleaning it all up over the week to get her back to her former glory. One question though is i need an escort mk5 or 6 top rad hose the one with the fan switch in, nobody knows what model these were on do they? ie xr3i, si ghia etc wtc.

Will get some pics soon.

Gareth.

[jayrs]

nice one mate, should be alright after a clean up

got a feeling it was low spec models that had the bit in hose, but cant be sure
pm clark (knuckles) im sure he can look it up if no one can answer with a deffo answer

[sjoyce666]

Good news the loom arrived in time and youve got it all connected and running

Look forward to the pictures when you've given it a spruce up

I think someone was selling a top hose on xrtwo that had the hole for the sensor in it, if its sold i'm sure there will be someone on there that can tell you what car they can be found on

Scott

[rs220bhp]

All the zetec mk6 escorts ive seen have had them hoses with the fan switch built in. Usually plenty in the scrap yards

[black2]

A small update on this. (no pics yet though)

During the week I have concentrated on tidying up the engine bay - all the wiring has been clipped back and covered with that corrugated plastic sheating that ford use so it looks nice and neat. Then for some reason, and this nver used to happen but the rev counter wire had decided to wrap it self around the steering colum resulting in pulling the loom connector out of the dash / clocks. This is especially annoying on the mk2 as to get to the clocks you have to ni one remove the dash to get the bloddy clocks out! and this happened twice! So in the end i cut the rev counter wire and re-routed it over the colum support bar so theres no way it can come in contact again.

Ive only done about 20 - 30 miles in it tops but one observation i have is that it runs so much better with the new loom and its because im using the vss, my old loom i damaged when i stripped it out of my fiesta si and the plug for the vss got ripped off and at the time i had no idea what it was for or indeed how important the vss is. That explains why it used to drink fuel, idel lumpy and genrally not run as smooth as it should. So im well happy about that.

The other issues that have been sorted out from when it was previously running are that the exhaust no longer blows, i re timed the engine and made a cam pully holding tool so i could slacken off the exhaust cam to get the notches to line up perfect on both cams and i have fitted the HO injector sandwhich plate. All these things together mean not only is running smoother but its also far better on fuel and feels so so fast now it used to feel quick but past 4k now the speedo flys around - i love it and TBH im glad i never went through with the turbo route becuase it feels just right in na form if that makes sense.

I have a couple of goodies to add to it now as well - 1 is a superchips "chip" (the blue ones) and its for the desk ecu which is what im running. It came up cheap enough and they seem rare as anything so i bought it. Im not expecting a huge differance tbh but hopefully there will be a slight improvement. I will let you know how i get on when thats fitted. The other thing is i have bought a reducer hose (73mm - 50mm) this is so i can re route my air filter assembly and do away with the awful K & n bannan pipe that im curretnly using i will get some pics of the new set up if ever the pipe turns up because i bought it from the bay...but guess where its coming from...yup roose again so will prob be ages before it comes.

Hopefully have some pics later when i eventually get round to cleaning it and giving it a polish.

Gareth.

[black2]

Oh also forgot to say thanks to richybaby for sorting me out with the escort top hose. That sould be here some time next week and then i can connect the fan switch up. Cheers for that mate.

Gareth.

[jayrs]

sounds like its all coming together now mate

[richie baby]

glad to help anything else u need just ask

[jonyb4]

sounds awsome mate, i know what you mean about it hitting the "second" power band at 4k it just pulls like f**k from that point

glad its running sweet as a nut for you though, enough pissing aobut with it, start enjoying it again

[black2]

Certainly enjoying it now i fitted the chip last weekend and its made more of an improvement than i thought it seems a lot firmer through the revs and pulls stronger.

My top water hose has now arrived as well, big thanks to richiebaby for that So tomorrow i will fit that and plug the fan switch in.

I did give it a bloody god polish last weekend as well, and blacked all the plastics and its looking far far better now which im glad about.

Two things which need sorting now though are number 1 the gear box is leaking oil can only be the driveshaft oil seal thats gone but its quite bad so needs doing pronto. Second thing is theres no rear exhaust mount on it and as a result it rattles on the rear beam which is annoying to say the least so will be sorting this as well.

Other than that my hose still has'nt turned up from roose so i cant reidrect my air filter as i want. Also during this weekend i am likly to remove the wheels and put the pepper pots back on just so i can get the bloody thing tracked as its still way out and with the gti rims they cant get the gear around the wheels, plus the tyres on the gti wheels are knackered and im not putting 4 new tyres on them just to have them scrubbed out in a few hundred miles.

Once all these things are sorted im going to a rolling road to have the once over done on it then i simply intend on thrashing the nuts off of it and generally have as much fun as i can.

Gareth.

[jayrs]

thats good to hear mate.
gearbox seal wont take long, and i know what ya mean about rear hanger, it needs one on the bend at the back of the floor, design fault imo, many years ago with my first car (xr2) ive had a exhaust fractue 2 inch from flange, and due to not having a hanger ate the back, the exhausttwisted it way round and broke off as i pulled up

[richie baby]

no worrys mate, glad u got it all ok rich

[black2]

Heres the latest update for my car and sadly not a good one.

I hit a landrover defender and as you can guess I came off worst!

Today I made a start and removed the damaged wing. Really chuffed how good the condition of this car is, theres no rust on the inner wing at all, none at the back even, and none on the inner flitch (the bit you cant not see)

Ive decided to replace the bonnet now as well, it did'nt actually get damaged in the accident but its already dented and i have a new one just in the shed so its a good time to have it done. I have a decent second hand door to fit as mine got dented when i hit the defender. Will also be having the rear hatch re-sprayed now at the same time, so the plus points are the car will be a lot fresher and tidier looking which is good.













Gareth.

[jimmyesh]

Sorry to see the damage there mate - as you say though, it's in really good condition for its age