2.0 Engine now in but .......

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2.0 Engine now in but .......

Postby Xr2i_2.0L_16v on Mon May 15, 2006 11:08 am

i went to start it for the 1st time and...... POW it fired up ( turned over about 6 times )


8) lol


i havent changed the ECU yet it was running with the 1.8 ( being changed today )

anyway the problem i have is, it was reving it self up ( like i stared it with foot flat on floor ) but i wasent

could this be because of the 1.8 ecu or somthing else ?


i checked the TPS / MAF / All TB cables, plugs , Ect and it still done it ...

im hoping it might just be the ecu but wanted to ask you guys before i go out and get all dirty
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Postby lucasdemoley on Mon May 15, 2006 11:22 am

If you used the mondeo tb you might just want to check that its not sticking open, or that it can close properly. Just a complet guess really!
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Postby Xr2i_2.0L_16v on Mon May 15, 2006 1:03 pm

yeh its the 2.0 tb on there .....

it seems ALL perfectly ok....


gimmie 30mins im going to change ecu's over

ill let you know ifit worked or not if not i need some advice llama



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Postby Sunil_FiestaRS_16V on Mon May 15, 2006 2:59 pm

wont be the ecu

could be an airleak ?

Or throttle btterly open as said
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Postby Xr2i_2.0L_16v on Mon May 15, 2006 3:10 pm

ok peeps i put ecu on and nothing ..........


car will only start with 1800 ecu ( NEON )


it runs fine with it ? lol how weird


anyway i got it going all ticking over and bang the thermostat house cracked :( .....


im doing that in a min after bit of lunch


Weird how it will only run on the 1.8 ecu innit
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Postby RS_Raz on Mon May 15, 2006 3:12 pm

There must be a difference with the loom... maybe the ecu is knackered.... I'm just guessing though... and should probably get back to work.

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Postby Xr2i_2.0L_16v on Mon May 15, 2006 3:15 pm

but surly a 2.0 would work better with a 2.0 ecu ( DEEP is what i got )

it wont even spark with the DEEP
with the NEON 1.8 ifts fine but ticks over abit low that could be 101 things tho ...


still not sure why that thermostat housing cracked .... hoppfuly it was just knackerd and not somthing else making it crack


Ps reving problem now ok,

The Tb was open ( forgot a spring )

sorted now ... execpt that thermostat GRRRRRRRR

Fast tho aint they LOL i took it up rd havent smiled like that for ages hahaha
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Postby Sunil_FiestaRS_16V on Mon May 15, 2006 3:21 pm

sounds like your DEEP ecu is knackered mate.
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Postby Xr2i_2.0L_16v on Mon May 15, 2006 3:23 pm

ok mate fair dooz,


ya think it will all be ok if i left the NEON on there .. or should i get another 2.0 ecu ?
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Postby paradox on Mon May 15, 2006 3:25 pm

Sunil_FiestaRS_16V :sounds like your DEEP ecu is knackered mate.


what he said

oh and did you fit the 1.8 water pump?
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Postby Xr2i_2.0L_16v on Mon May 15, 2006 3:26 pm

yes cosre i did , the front engine mount wont fit on with 2.0 waterpump :Q
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Postby Sunil_FiestaRS_16V on Mon May 15, 2006 3:52 pm

Xr2i_2.0L_16v :ok mate fair dooz,


ya think it will all be ok if i left the NEON on there .. or should i get another 2.0 ecu ?


it will run it but i change to a working DEEP or similiar soon, as the map will be wrong for your car. I ran mine on a 1.6 GURU till i sourced the DEEP
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Postby Xr2i_2.0L_16v on Mon May 15, 2006 5:06 pm

well i changed the thermostat all running ok ,,


seems like it got hot fast but havent really drove it yet ( no insurance )

but whem i get my insurance changed back i can test it out properly,


Thanks for your help guys ...


Ps any one got a WORKING 2.0 ecu for sale :) lol
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Postby JACK THE LAD on Tue May 16, 2006 12:08 am

sounds like air leak. was your car 1800 zetec before 2ltr con.could be something do with loom mate did you replace loom or do any pin changes before you put 2 ltr ecu on.
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Postby Xr2i_2.0L_16v on Tue May 16, 2006 12:17 am

the air leak sorted now but thanks anyway ,


and yes it used to be a 1.8 zetec and i never touched the loom or any pin changes

somthing might of been done b4 i owned it but i doubt it ,
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Postby JACK THE LAD on Tue May 16, 2006 12:55 am

Xr2i_2.0L_16v :the air leak sorted now but thanks anyway ,


and yes it used to be a 1.8 zetec and i never touched the loom or any pin changes

somthing might of been done b4 i owned it but i doubt it ,
check your loom mate before you use 2ltr ecu .i ran mine on 1800 loom mate wouldnt run right.so i sorted loom and put 2 ltr ecu on and i can honestly say it goes like s**t off a shovel. well chuffed :)
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Re: 2 ltr

Postby JACK THE LAD on Tue May 16, 2006 1:00 am

JACK THE LAD :
Xr2i_2.0L_16v :the air leak sorted now but thanks anyway ,


and yes it used to be a 1.8 zetec and i never touched the loom or any pin changes

somthing might of been done b4 i owned it but i doubt it ,
check your loom mate before you use 2ltr ecu .i ran mine on 1800 loom mate wouldnt run right.so i sorted loom and put 2 ltr ecu on and i can honestly say it goes like poo off a shovel. well chuffed :)
the loom is different for 2ltr mate if it hasnt been changed and you thinking of doing it good luck. i had problems doing my loom.but with a lot of help off here i sorted it . so if you want the pin changes for this let me no i have them
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Postby jdfiesta on Tue May 16, 2006 9:24 am

i'm assuming your car is an Xr2i 16v???
if so then your loom for the 1.8 engine will have external EDIS plumbed in, you'll need to remove that part, the ECU controls the EDIS internally on the 'DE' prefix ECU's
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Postby Xr2i_2.0L_16v on Tue May 16, 2006 9:59 am

lol now im confussed :S


<<<< no good with eletric's


and yes please guys .. it does need doing so any help would be greatfull ,

cause im not sure ifits the ecu but the car ticks over for about 5 minz then will just cut out .... its nothing realy but its not right

so yes any pin changes / anythin that needs chagein please let me know as like i said it will need doing :)



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Postby benks_si on Wed May 17, 2006 3:27 pm

like stated, if your car is the 16v xr2i then it will probably be controlled with an external edis ecu, all mondeo ecus are internal edis so to make it work you will neeb to change the wiring loom for an internal edis before the mondeo 2ltr ecu will work. a loom from a Nreg fiesta si will work i think as its internal edis. hope this helps
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Postby Xr2i_2.0L_16v on Wed May 17, 2006 5:17 pm

someone said something about pins changes ?


whats eaiser loom change or pins change or keep the 1.8 ecu lol

i see on some guide about the bank of wires (:::::::) look like that behind EFI inlet need chaging about ...


is this what i need to do or was that something else ?


sorry for being abit blonde but its confusing the fook outa me
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Postby benks_si on Wed May 17, 2006 5:21 pm

dont really think changing the pins will make a difference, end of the day you have an external edis wiring loom and an internal edis ecu, it wont work. really think you need to change the loom if you want the mondeo ecu.
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Postby Mav Singh on Wed May 17, 2006 6:35 pm

if your getting a new thermostat i recommend you go for a honda accord 77c thermostat. its a direct fit on zetecs.
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Postby JACK THE LAD on Wed May 17, 2006 10:21 pm

the easiest way is using the si loom i couldnt get old of 1 so i used 1800 loom yeh it was a pain . but with help from sailorbob we sorted it. took me along time to get my head around it .but its running nice now.if i was you go for the 1600 si loom.but if you want to stick with your 1800 loom i will try and sort you the pin outs ..
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Postby Xr2i_2.0L_16v on Thu May 18, 2006 12:28 am

yeh would really prefer to keep the 1.8 loom as its in and all ok :)


but yeh mate if you could that would be a GREAT help !!!


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Postby paradox on Thu May 18, 2006 9:11 am

I will be doing this conversion soon also using a 1.8 xr2i loom so any info you can give would be great thanks
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Postby samm0 on Thu May 18, 2006 10:17 am

i have a 2lt ecu, say a 15 + p&p?

let us now if ya interested
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Postby Xr2i_2.0L_16v on Thu May 18, 2006 10:20 am

i have a 2.0 ecu ... just need these modifications to get the fooker working lol


Thanks anyway mate
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Postby paradox on Thu May 18, 2006 12:21 pm

have you tried unplugging the edis module on the bulkhead then using the 2 litre ecu?
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Postby Xr2i_2.0L_16v on Thu May 18, 2006 12:35 pm

no, what will that do ?


i mean whats the reason behind doing that.

sorry man im just new to All this new electrical stuff :) lol

but its the way forward so i gotta lern somewhere lol ( trial n error innit )
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Postby paradox on Thu May 18, 2006 3:49 pm

The thinking behind it was that if the 2 litre ecu uses internal edis and the xr2i uses external then by unplugging the edis module on the bulkhead and using the 2litre ecu with internal edis it might work.

Its just an idea though but id be interested to know if it works?
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Postby Xr2i_2.0L_16v on Thu May 18, 2006 5:07 pm

yes ok bro i will try ?


thats all i wanted to know lol :)


Thanks bro ill let you know
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Postby JACK THE LAD on Thu May 18, 2006 10:47 pm

hi mate write these down i cant find the pin outs at moment dont no what ive done with them. the eddis wires you DONT USE are 3 4 8 9 .number 7 goes to 40 or 60 of ecu. 58 inj 1 move to 51. 59 inj 2 move to 52. bear with me on the others mate. but dont attempt till you got them all.
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Postby Xr2i_2.0L_16v on Thu May 18, 2006 10:59 pm

ok bro , cheers for ya help
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Postby fiestaescort on Fri May 19, 2006 1:32 pm

Hi mate, if your car isnt running with the 2.0 ecu, have you checked to see if it needs the PAT system, you know the key with the chip in it, will stop the car from sparking. To bypass this you need to add 4 pins to your ecu connector and you need a pin out data book cause cant remember what pin numbers it was. Cheers.
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