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by **EvilDes** on Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:55 pm

Among many other things today (the Escort Cosworth - mmmmm), I popped into Pumabuild, having found out its 2mins away from my house. Started chattin to one of the guys there, gave me a full guided tour of the place

Top notch! Absolutely superb! Great people, and know what they are doing!

On the forecourt, there were about 7 Puma's, a Focus RS, Fiesta ZS, a mk2 Fiesta with 187 bhp (one of the guy who works there owns it!), and in the workshop another couple of Puma's. Plus a Ka which was havin work done on it - was on a mag cover a few months back (red one, full bodykit, WAS a 1.3, but gettin new engine in it!)

But the thing that caught my attention when I was chatting, was he said they had some 1 coming down today from Edinborough with a Fiesta, and this person wants Pumabuild to put a Focus RS engine in! :aaah:

Not sure what Fiesta, but should be quite special!

by **SantaHul** on Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:58 pm

sunny

wot u up to now?

by **AdrianFRST** on Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:02 pm

The Focus RS engine isn't all that. It's a Series 3 2.0 Zetec with a small-ish turbo and a chargecooler.

Nothing fancy and inferior in spec to the Zetec turbos of Duncan, Moondust, Paul R etc which have bigger turbos, better intercoolers etc.

You can build a much better engine that it would cost to buy a FRS unit.

This Fiesta won't be that special, just expensive and over-hyped.

by **EvilDes** on Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:08 pm

oh, okaaay.

*hangs head and walks away slowly, taking a final look back*

by **andyhardy** on Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:18 pm

by **EvilDes** on Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:19 pm

Quality!

But Im worried about you having so much time to do that!

by **~Tony~** on Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:24 pm

fudgekin quality

oh well des there goes your enthusiasm in a cloud of steam

by **EvilDes** on Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:29 pm

Naaah, I still think it will be something special!

May well not exactly be a powerhouse of an engine, but it will be unique and good to see people trying new things! i just thought it was an interesting piece of information too, in a community of Fiesta lovers, that something different is being tried!

by **andyhardy** on Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:32 pm

AdrianFRST :The Focus RS engine isn't all that. It's a Series 3 2.0 Zetec with a small-ish turbo and a chargecooler.

Is that all the Duratec engine is? I thought it was quite a bit different as it uses timing chain or is that just on the later Mondeo's?

Cheers,

Andy

by **AdrianFRST** on Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:42 pm

It's branded Duratec but it's a Zetec.

Ford marketing confusion, like the Zetec Mondeos that are actually Diesels.

by **lazy_arse_pie** on Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:50 pm

rofl

by **Excursion** on Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:14 pm

Yeah as Ade said, there are better engines in mk3's than the Focus RS, and have been around for a few years now!

by **EvilDes** on Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:29 pm

Well I think the Focus RS is a great car!

I know there are always gonna be faster cars etc, but its just to my liking!

by **Smo** on Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:39 pm

AdrianFRST :Ford marketing confusion, like the Zetec Mondeos that are actually Diesels.

Cool... I'm gonna tell people my HCS is really a Zetec now

by **~S1~** on Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:40 am

andyhardy :

llama

I know Ade aint exactly built like a brick outhouse but thats a bit extreme isnt Andy??

by **chumkila** on Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:06 pm

The Pumabuild chaps at Fiesta in The Park were telling us about this and the engine they had laying around.

by **heeman10** on Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:12 pm

I guess he'll be able to say he's got an RS engine, but seriously, that'll cost him a fortune, he could probably buy two 200bhp+ Zetec Turbo engines for the price they'll charge. Will still be fun though

by **andyhardy** on Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:11 pm

S1 :llama

I know Ade aint exactly built like a brick outhouse but thats a bit extreme isnt Andy??

It's abstract - nothing's too scale much like the London Underground map :lol:

by **simhopper** on Thu Jul 29, 2004 6:54 am

its mine at at a cost of around 2k for engine and box is it rreally thtat much of a rip off ok hell be charging be a few k to fit but 260bhp is possible with simple mods fit this in a mk6 and ure looking a t a 5 sec 60 car

by **simhopper** on Thu Jul 29, 2004 6:56 am

AdrianFRST :The Focus RS engine isn't all that. It's a Series 3 2.0 Zetec with a small-ish turbo and a chargecooler.

Nothing fancy and inferior in spec to the Zetec turbos of Duncan, Moondust, Paul R etc which have bigger turbos, better intercoolers etc.

You can build a much better engine that it would cost to buy a FRS unit.

This Fiesta won't be that special, just expensive and over-hyped.

its just like ur seats there may be special but are over priced and are totally uncomfortable i dont knock u mate so dont knock me

and ive had frp seats and there crap really uncomfotable now sitting on foci rs one s far better

by **thehuzman** on Thu Jul 29, 2004 8:56 am

That Mk6 Fezza bloke who has posted in the gallery keeps getting replies from another guy with a Mk6 who reckons Pumabuild are sticking a Focus RS engine in his car. Guess its him then.

by **simhopper** on Thu Jul 29, 2004 5:59 pm

thehuzman :That Mk6 Fezza bloke who has posted in the gallery keeps getting replies from another guy with a Mk6 who reckons Pumabuild are sticking a Focus RS engine in his car. Guess its him then.

its me simhopper mattmk6 has all my old bits inc frp interior 19s etc

by **chumkila** on Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:53 am

sim your car will be one "complete" Fiesta.

Looks and power, good on ya!

by **Project** on Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:34 am

simhopper :
AdrianFRST :The Focus RS engine isn't all that. It's a Series 3 2.0 Zetec with a small-ish turbo and a chargecooler.

Nothing fancy and inferior in spec to the Zetec turbos of Duncan, Moondust, Paul R etc which have bigger turbos, better intercoolers etc.

You can build a much better engine that it would cost to buy a FRS unit.

This Fiesta won't be that special, just expensive and over-hyped.

its just like [ERRR] seats there may be special but are over priced and are totally uncomfortable i dont knock u mate so dont knock me

and ive had frp seats and there crap really uncomfotable now sitting on foci rs one s far better

While I'm certain that Ade is quite capable of defending himself, I think it's fair to point out that he only ever gives fair and impartial advice; it's not Ade's style to insult someone.

I've seen some of the thread you and Ade had about your FRS engine and I don't see him actually insulting you anywhere - as far as I can tell he offered a personal opinion, which I think is the whole point of message boards like this and UKFN, isn't it?

Best of luck with the conversion of course, but don't take it personally when people try to offer you an alternative opinion

Best regards,

Munk

by **simhopper** on Fri Jul 30, 2004 2:08 pm

didnt mean to offend but hes quick to say that the rs lump isnt worht the cash 2k for 212bhp is good going

by **maysaXr2i** on Fri Jul 30, 2004 2:17 pm

i know there is a bloke on UKFN apparetly getting a FRS engine in his mk6 - think he from scotland aswell - prob him

by **Excursion** on Fri Jul 30, 2004 2:32 pm

simhopper :didnt mean to offend but hes quick to say that the rs lump isnt worht the cash 2k for 212bhp is good going

If you are getting a Focus RS lump, gearbox, management and the installation for 2k then you've done well. I'd say that's a good price.

by **simhopper** on Fri Jul 30, 2004 3:02 pm

no 2k is to supply the engine gonna cost a fortune in labour to fit it

any conversion for the mk6 is going to be expensive as no one as far as im aware has done one yet

adrian had told me that fiestafrenzy had done one whether that is true i never checked

by **EvilDes** on Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:31 pm

Ahhhh so you were the lad he was on about! Sorry if I spoiled any suprise!

So how did things go when you got down to PumaBuild? I live just up the road from where it is :bonkers:

by **simhopper** on Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:03 pm

good, work is starting on monday had the car all week and nothings happened hopefully in about 3/4 weeks time itll be in and running

by **EvilDes** on Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:09 pm

Oooo, may have to pop down and have a look :wink:

Keep me informed on how it goes

by **AdrianFRST** on Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:11 pm

simhopper :didnt mean to offend but hes quick to say that the rs lump isnt worht the cash 2k for 212bhp is good going

In that case you've bagged a bargain! Nice one!

Labour is labour, you'd need to pay that whoever built it so it's not really relevent. The prices you first mentioned were outrageous but you can't argue with 2k.

Make sure you post the pics when you get it back!

by **simhopper** on Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:22 pm

yeah i totally agree 10k was a waste of money still looking at about 7k after i fit after market bits and fit the (insert ghey rap term) (insert ghey rap term)

by **Project** on Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:18 am

Awww, it's like Trisha, only less incest...

by **lee 1.6 si** on Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:37 pm

Simhopper thats a good idea for the focus engine. Are they suppling and fitting the whole engine? Although the standard bhp is only about 212 it has at least 300nm of torque which would make it shift and it wouldn't have to run a silly amount of psi to get good increases. Let us know how it goes

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