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[dontpannic]

IMO this Toyota thing has been blown out of all proportions.

Product recalls happen all the time, especially to cars - manufacturers can't test for problems that will occur years into a products life.

Yesterday, broadcast on television there was a court hearing between Toyota bosses, the US Government, and senior staff at Toyota. One American lady, against Toyota, was in TEARS in the courtroom recounting how her Toyota reached speeds of "around 100 mph on the motorway" after her accelerator pedal got stuck. Truly extreme reactions I'm sure you'll agree. For example, it's not difficult in these situations to take preventative measures is it?

1. If it's a manual, put your foot on the fudgekin CLUTCH. They don't put it there for decoration!

2. Pull the gearstick into netural, possible on both manual and auto cars. Common sense.

3. Turn the engine off!!!!!

Is it any wonder that the vast majority of people going to the press are A) American and B) Women. (This isn't a dig about women, I know that the British in general have more common sense, hence why we haven't over exaggerated the issue.

I can't be the only one who thinks that??

[jonboisescort]

i totally agree


why are some people so thick

same in this country aswell

[dangerousdave]

i for one..... dont give a f**k! lol............ dont buy jap crap!!

[jonboisescort]

i for one..... dont give a f**k! lol............ dont buy jap crap!!

[Tweek]

Excellent point there. Can anyone remember that American that sued an RV company for not explaining that "cruise control" didn't mean they could leave the driving seat for a cuppa tea pimsle

[andymac]

The whole hysteria thing seems to be second nature to a lot of people, but frankly the whole "100mph on the freeway" rubbish is exactly that. If they're incapable of dealing with that situation (put car in neutral or dip clutch) then they shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car. Simple as. It's as bad as the vast number of utter tugger who don't have the foggiest how to drive in the snow, I mean, we only get it for a month or two EVERY FRIGGING YEAR.

Asshats.

BTW. Turning off the engine is dangerous. You will lose PAS and brave servo assistance. In a hybrid that's a big deal as they weigh a lot.

[dontpannic]

Andy - turning off the engine shouldn't matter too much, the steering would become slightly heavier but you wouldn't even need to brake, just roll to a halt on the hard shoulder, especially if it's still in gear.

[dangerousdave]

Andy - turning off the engine shouldn't matter too much, the steering would become slightly heavier but you wouldn't even need to brake, just roll to a halt on the hard shoulder, especially if it's still in gear.

yeah that sounds really safe at 100mph on the freeway!!

[stevo™]

wasnt there that family in america that wer killed when there prius accelerated and wouldnt stop there a tape recording of them on the phone to the police really upset saying they cant stop the car then theres a bit of noise then the line goes dead i think they found them all dead after the car crashed

[dontpannic]

Andy - turning off the engine shouldn't matter too much, the steering would become slightly heavier but you wouldn't even need to brake, just roll to a halt on the hard shoulder, especially if it's still in gear.

yeah that sounds really safe at 100mph on the freeway!!

That may be but it's a damn sight safer than making Bluetooth calls to your husband instead of practical thinking to stop the car. The brakes would still work enough to slow you down when the engine is off.

[stevo™]

isnt there a problem with the brakes to???

[Bordoy]

isnt there a problem with the brakes to???

That with a different model.

[dontpannic]

And it only makes the ABS kick in too early.

[Sphinx]

Considering how stupid alot of these people are, they'd probably turn the engine off, take the key out and then wonder why the steering lock has kicked in.
I heard about 3 seconds of an interview (before i turned it off in anger) with some American woman on the radio who started crying because her something-or-other crept up to 100mph and she didn't know what to do.

As said, clutch in or just put it in neutral you retards.

[gdgd]

wasnt there that family in america that wer killed when there prius accelerated and wouldnt stop there a tape recording of them on the phone to the police really upset saying they cant stop the car then theres a bit of noise then the line goes dead i think they found them all dead after the car crashed

I heard that phone call too, i think it was a lexus tho. still shocking tho

[~Vix~]

I know what you mean but its fudgekin annoying when you own a recalled car and want to sell it!

[andymac]

Andy - turning off the engine shouldn't matter too much, the steering would become slightly heavier but you wouldn't even need to brake, just roll to a halt on the hard shoulder, especially if it's still in gear.

Indeedy, but all you need is one person braking in front of you and you could be totally stuffed. Not disagreeing with the main points, but engine off should only ever be a last resort and tbh, the golfs steering is like lead when the engine isn't running - the PAS pump or relief valves are fubed on it atm which results in momentary loss of assistance on an intermittant basis. I can turn the wheel when it's like that but I doubt Cat could in an emergency, which is really my point.

I'm having it booked in this week for a fix since we have the fiesta at last

[Ollie]

As long as it's still in gear the vacuum servo assistance for the brakes should still work with the ignition off, the engine would also still be turning the PAS pump.

[Rhinopower]

I think the bigger concern with turning off a prius is the fact they are brake bi wire.

[curly]

and the fact no bloody american drives a manual,, so let them crash in opinion, should have baught a focus lol

on a serious note, it has gone abit ott,, but then everything does in america,, dont hear us brits winging about not being able to stop, its just an excuse to speed, sorry officer pedals jammed lol

[andymac]

I think the bigger concern with turning off a prius is the fact they are brake bi wire.

Didn't know that ! Bloody hell, I'm amazed that got through legislation !

dont hear us brits winging about not being able to stop

No, but we make up for it by embracing the US's compensation mentality.

[Ruishy1]

No, but we make up for it by embracing the US's compensation mentality.

you can say that again, did you see the program on the other night ?
paretns sued the school becuase there son stubbed his toe while playing footbal, they got over 2k !
one guy was sueing the razor company becuase he cut himself shaving, i mean WTF !

[Ollie]

I think the bigger concern with turning off a prius is the fact they are brake bi wire.

Didn't know that ! Bloody hell, I'm amazed that got through legislation !

With power removed the system fails back to manual for the front wheels only. Not ideal considering the weight of a Prius, but they would still have brakes.

[andymac]

@Ruishy1 - Yes, I did. That sort of thing is only going to become increasingly commonplace with the legal reforms that will complete in 2012. You'll be assailed with no-win-no-fee adverts everytime you go into tescos, if it really goes to the dogs. The majority of legal firms will simply be unable to compete with organisations of that size who are well used to operating call-centre style operations.

@Ollie - so, do better to open the door a try to stop in fred flinstone-stylee ?

[Ollie]

@Ollie - so, do better to open the door a try to stop in fred flinstone-stylee ?

As I said the other day, I'm happy with my mechanical and hydraulic connections thanks.

[xrsi]

IMO this Toyota thing has been blown out of all proportions.

Product recalls happen all the time, especially to cars - manufacturers can't test for problems that will occur years into a products life.

Yesterday, broadcast on television there was a court hearing between Toyota bosses, the US Government, and senior staff at Toyota. One American lady, against Toyota, was in TEARS in the courtroom recounting how her Toyota reached speeds of "around 100 mph on the motorway" after her accelerator pedal got stuck. Truly extreme reactions I'm sure you'll agree. For example, it's not difficult in these situations to take preventative measures is it?

1. If it's a manual, put your foot on the fudgekin CLUTCH. They don't put it there for decoration!

2. Pull the gearstick into netural, possible on both manual and auto cars. Common sense.

3. Turn the engine off!!!!!

Is it any wonder that the vast majority of people going to the press are A) American and B) Women. (This isn't a dig about women, I know that the British in general have more common sense, hence why we haven't over exaggerated the issue.

I can't be the only one who thinks that??

I completely agree with all of the points above!! i work for a member of the Denso group (which in turn is majority owned by toyota) so had a worrying time to start with when we heard about it.

the comment of 100mph on the freeway was actually in REVERSE if you listened, which would not happen!!!! simple as and if they can use that clip on radio etc then its just scare mungering to the highest level.

every manufacture has recalls, just not as publisised as this one has been or will be, yes things fail but i feel hat common sense would tell you first depress the clutch then to knock it out of gear to start with (fcuk the engine thats replaceable) hazards on, control the car to a hard shoulder or if cant get to hard shoulder slow the car down using brakes as its got no drive so wont make any diff the engine is still flat out. if your on a good long straight road then engine off also before you stop.

[Ollie]

@Ollie - so, do better to open the door a try to stop in fred flinstone-stylee ?

As I said the other day, I'm happy with my mechanical and hydraulic connections thanks.

That's just reminded me of this....

Well he started down the grade when he lost the gear
He hit them brakes found he had no air
The Monteville grade is steep and long
And everbody that seen it thought the Bandit was gone

Well his truck jack-knifed turned completely 'round
He was coming down backwards 'bout the speed of sound
Alot of folks seen him and they all say
He had his head out the windae Yelling clear the way

Well he got to the bottom safe and sound
Everybody asked Bandit how he made it down
He said folks when the truck picked up too much speed
I just run along beside it and drug my feet

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Bandit knows how it is.