GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

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GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby Sunil_FiestaRS_16V on Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:26 pm

Just got my Pulsar GTIR inlet so thought id share some pics. Im going to attemp to fit it onto my 2.0 zetec and then finally get the engine mapped.

Reason i went for the GTIR inlet is that its basically a set of throttle bodies and should release a nice bit of power over the troublesome focus inlet im currently using. The ports look pretty similiar aswell. Just hope it actually fit in the engine bay as i havent measured them up yet.

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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby Chris 2i on Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:32 pm

interesting, keep us updated. What's the problem with the focus one?
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby Sunil_FiestaRS_16V on Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:35 pm

Chris 2i :interesting, keep us updated. What's the problem with the focus one?



Yea ill keep this thread updated with how i get on. Can see it being a bit of a pain to get working but worth it in the end.

Since ive fitted the focus the revs stay where ever they are left when changing gear. Also seems to lose power when warm.
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby Sunil_FiestaRS_16V on Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:27 pm

If anyone has any tips or has does anything similiar id like to hear from you
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby freak power on Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:08 pm

I would like to take up the challenge of making them fit
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby Rhinopower on Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:01 pm

Speak to ferriday engineering, they will be able to make you an adaptor plate to fit them to a zetec head
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby freak power on Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:05 pm

Rhinopower :Speak to ferriday engineering, they will be able to make you an adaptor plate to fit them to a zetec head


I would do the same with are CNC machine at work
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby Rhinopower on Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:16 pm

ah fair enough! looking forward to seeing the results
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby crazycage on Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:22 pm

whats the port spacing like ? do they line up with the zetec ports? :)
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby JayC on Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:08 am

very intresting.. i had no idea it was throttlebodys and plenum on the gtir.. good luck with it i hope it works well.. you might be onto a much better alternative there!
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby Sunil_FiestaRS_16V on Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:09 pm

freak power :I would like to take up the challenge of making them fit


I need all the help i can get mate. So your welcome to help if you like, as i have no access to any machines to make things up if it doesnt bolt straight up, which it looks like it wont. So will end up paying an engineerng firm to make up anything i need which could work out costly for me depending what needs doing


crazycage :whats the port spacing like ? do they line up with the zetec ports? :)


Not sure yet havent had time to do anything with them yet. Ive got and rs1800 sandwhich plate that im gonna use to see if it all lines up and see how differnt the ports are


JayC :very intresting.. i had no idea it was throttlebodys and plenum on the gtir.. good luck with it i hope it works well.. you might be onto a much better alternative there!
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Yea ive known about them for ages and has always been in the back mind as a cheaper alternative to full blown bodies. Just took me awhile to track some down.
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby MarkRS2K on Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:11 pm

so your finally gonna get it mapped... :P :D
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby freak power on Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:00 pm

I'll do my best and can give you a price if i see the manifold myself
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby Excursion on Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:18 pm

Ian H had one of these back in the '90's to try. He gave up though as the port centres were too different.

Good luck though mate.
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby Smo on Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:00 pm

Is there any advantage to having the ITBs when they're enclosed by a plenum, though?

I can see how it may help improve low/mid torque at part throttle, but at full throttle, would it not be the same as any other inlet with a large plenum, say, a MK5/6 RS2000 one or Rover inlet?
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby Excursion on Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:09 pm

Much better flow characteristics, and each cylinder can be more equally balanced with respect to air flow.

'Standing air' is always important in induction. As a rough guide, ideal plenum capacity is something like 1.5 x total cylinder capcity.
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby allinking on Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:18 pm

Excursion :Ian H had one of these back in the '90's to try. He gave up though as the port centres were too different.

Good luck though mate.


Was gonna say checked my old pulsar gasket against my zetec ages ago and was well off so nver bothered
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby volcomstone411 on Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:20 pm

very interesting.

I originally wanted to use itb like bike carbs where they have an indervidual inlet plenum, then apply some boost.

Is that a watercooled throttle body too?
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby demolition_man on Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:58 pm

i have a set of these I bought with the intention of making them fit on my ZT, but i've pretty much given up on the idea as it is going to be a lot of work. The ports do not line up, the only way to get them to work without ridiculously angled pipework is by actually cutting the pairs in half to alter the spacing and then the cast plenum would not fit without serious modification either so essentially you might as well start from scratch. The ports are a very similar size, and they aren't that far off lining up to the naked eye - but it's too much. However - maybe you will have more luck/skill than me so I look forward to following this thread! :)
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby Max M4X WW on Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:10 pm

Excursion :'Standing air' is always important in induction. As a rough guide, ideal plenum capacity is something like 1.5 x total cylinder capacity.

I wonder what my FRP inlet is like compared to that!

Looks good though mate, Hope you get it on and I'll look forward to seeing it mapped!
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby Sunil_FiestaRS_16V on Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:45 am

MarkRS2K :so your finally gonna get it mapped... :P :D


Yea i will when ive sorted the inlet side of things. Had a pectel T2 sat under my bed for two years lol

freak power :I'll do my best and can give you a price if i see the manifold myself


Where you based mate?

Excursion :Ian H had one of these back in the '90's to try. He gave up though as the port centres were too different.

Good luck though mate.


Not sounding good if Ian H decided to give up

demolition_man :i have a set of these I bought with the intention of making them fit on my ZT, but i've pretty much given up on the idea as it is going to be a lot of work. The ports do not line up, the only way to get them to work without ridiculously angled pipework is by actually cutting the pairs in half to alter the spacing and then the cast plenum would not fit without serious modification either so essentially you might as well start from scratch. The ports are a very similar size, and they aren't that far off lining up to the naked eye - but it's too much. However - maybe you will have more luck/skill than me so I look forward to following this thread! :)


I have no skill lol But know a few people that do . ill give it my best shot but sounding like ive bitten off more than i can chew
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby MarkRS2K on Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:28 pm

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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby freak power on Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:01 pm

I'm in leeds mate
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby lowsi on Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:59 am

Sunil_FiestaRS_16V :Since ive fitted the focus the revs stay where ever they are left when changing gear. Also seems to lose power when warm.


i had similar issues when i fitted an escort plastic inlet to my 2.0, the rev sticking thing was caused by a leak.
but it ran like a sack of crap and DRANK fuel! it was spraying it out the exhaust! :o
oh and it refused to idle, would just hunt all over the place.
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby MattPym on Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:55 pm

demolition_man :i have a set of these I bought with the intention of making them fit on my ZT, but i've pretty much given up on the idea as it is going to be a lot of work. The ports do not line up, the only way to get them to work without ridiculously angled pipework is by actually cutting the pairs in half to alter the spacing and then the cast plenum would not fit without serious modification either so essentially you might as well start from scratch. The ports are a very similar size, and they aren't that far off lining up to the naked eye - but it's too much. However - maybe you will have more luck/skill than me so I look forward to following this thread! :)



What's happening with the inlet you have???
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby mattyboy-si on Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:38 pm

Gordan At Streetracers has already done this to one of his customers Zetec Turbo, was at the fiesta thrash but had the rover item and was in one of the last thrashs in PF with the Pulsar Item. Maybe worth Emailing him and asking him any questions you have!

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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby MattPym on Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:50 am

Any news on this?
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby Sunil_FiestaRS_16V on Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:02 pm

No new yet havent got round to doing anything with it.

Cheers for the head up on streetracers matty-boy-si. I think i know that car was at the FT fiesta thrash i think and is a member on here
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby demolition_man on Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:48 pm

from that picture it looks like the plenum has been modified to accept a single throttle body and then chopped the inlet runners... would work but it's throwing away the bodies so defeating the object i guess, nice to see it on there though! :)
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby Sunil_FiestaRS_16V on Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:04 pm

has anyone got contact details for streetracers or know the blokes username who owns that zetec turbo?
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Re: GTIR inlet onto 2.0 zetec

Postby MarkRS2K on Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:33 pm

think its rewsturbo or something like that :)
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