Electric windows

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Postby Project on Wed Mar 07, 2001 9:52 am

I have the electric window motors (everything in the metal body, basically) - can I just connect this to the manual winders, or do I need the whole metal window frame???
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Postby Fake XR2i on Wed Mar 07, 2001 10:12 am

You mean window regulators? I managed to modify my manual regulators to work with the motors....worked a couple of times then just tangled up!!<br>I'm still waiting to buy regulators of sumone...hint hint!!<br><br>iain
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Postby Project on Thu Mar 08, 2001 2:03 am

Yes, those ones - can they be converted?<br><br>Ps Noticed you've made about 200 posts in the last couple-a days... or have you made a charitable donation to the "Save the Ades charity"??? <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/biggrin.gif">
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Postby Excursion on Thu Mar 08, 2001 2:23 am

THOSE BIG METAL b******S [ERRR] THE HARD TO DRILL OUT RIVETS
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Postby Robz_Fester on Thu Mar 08, 2001 3:08 am

No he's just been chattin' 'bout STARS!!
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Postby Excursion on Thu Mar 08, 2001 4:27 am

stars!! lol no but seriously u chould all see my bedroom celing at night - ive got a galaxy of glow in the dark stars! well cool<br><br>Yes m8 the electric winfow motors can be swapped with the manual stuff. 4 rivets and 3 nuts hold them in - just up to you to wire them up.
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Postby mec on Fri Mar 09, 2001 8:39 am

im going to get my leccy windows and central locking gear tomorrow, so will i need the whole window regulator assembly or just the motors?
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Postby Excursion on Fri Mar 09, 2001 12:10 pm

Its all one unit mate
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Postby Excursion on Sat Mar 10, 2001 8:56 am

I got a pair for my first car, £5 a motor
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Postby Excursion on Sat Mar 10, 2001 8:56 am

oops - from a scrappie
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Postby mec on Sat Mar 10, 2001 9:19 am

i got it from a local scrappy, central locking, leccy windows, switches and loom- £70.<br>i know its not cheap but they were the only scrappy in staffs with the stuff- i phoned every scrappy and parts place in the yellow pages! <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/tounge.gif"><br><br>anyway when i got them home i realised they weren't gonna fit! i got them off a 5 door and i never realised the doors were shorter! s**t! <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/tounge.gif"><br><br>i've joined the manual regulator assembly to the leccy motor and i reckon it should work.<br><br>also ive got both central locking motors but only 1 latch. the only differnce between the manual one is a lever which connects to the motor so i'm goning to try and fabricate one for the normal latch.<br><br>oh, you were right about the rivets! <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/smokin.gif"><br>
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Postby Fake XR2i on Sat Mar 10, 2001 10:19 am

where u gettin them from and how much for?
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Postby mec on Sun Mar 11, 2001 9:12 am

2000 16v turbo<br><br>when you fitted your leccy windows in your old car were they from a 5 door? if they were how did you get them to work? <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/tounge.gif"><br><br>mine are from a 5 door ghia and they're starting to become a real pain is the a**e.<br>i seperated the manual regulator and attached it to the leccy motor using the tension spring assembly from the electric regulator but they were too long then.<br>still i got them in but i came to put the window in the lifting channel screw holes wouldn't line up and i cant move the regulator 'cos its not wired up yet!<br><br>any ideas?
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Postby Excursion on Sun Mar 11, 2001 12:24 pm

They were from a 2 door car but Ill be sticking my neck out here by saying that im sure there isnt any difference!<br><br>Ok there maybe, but I was sure that the two cars had the same motors etc, even the wiring loom is the same - just folded backa couple of times on the 5 door
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Postby Robz_Fester on Mon Mar 12, 2001 3:20 am

Mec, ol' buddy ol' pal,<br><br>You wouldn't happen to have the two back door c/locking motors woudl you?? <br><br>If you have I'll buy 'em off you if you don't want them!
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Postby mec on Mon Mar 12, 2001 6:48 am

i've never seen the 2 door set-up but when i offered them up to the door with the motor in place, the regulator was no where near the manual regulator fixing points. i thought i could have drilled new rivet holes but there was no suitable mounting points how it sat. the tension cables were visibly a lot shorter than the manual ones and the regulator mounting points different.<br><br>anyway, i've already chopped up the electric regulator so i've got to make it fit <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/tounge.gif"><br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/tounge.gif">rob <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/tounge.gif"><br>i don't have the motors but i can get them for you, i'm going back the scrappy tomorrow anyway. <br>tell me how much you want to pay and i'll see if i can get them.
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Postby Project on Mon Mar 12, 2001 8:29 am

Rob - I have both of the little buggers and will let the pair go, including multi-plugs and about 3 inches of wire, for a tenner or thereabouts, if I'm easier to get to
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Postby mec on Mon Mar 12, 2001 8:37 am

alex..<br><br>have you got a drivers side central locking latch? i don't need the motor, just the latch.<br>cheers
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Postby mec on Mon Mar 12, 2001 8:53 am

im going back to the scappy tomorrow to get the wiring loom for the electric windows and central locking.<br><br>how far back on the loom do i have to go to fit it to mine?<br>do i need the fusebox or any relays etc?
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Postby Fake XR2i on Mon Mar 12, 2001 10:11 am

anyone sellin the regulators from a five door yet?!
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Postby Project on Tue Mar 13, 2001 9:05 am

Sorry Mec, I don't - is that the cable with the handle on it??? Will I need it to convert??? Maybe I'll just stick with my Richbrook winders instead <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/smile.gif">
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Postby mec on Tue Mar 13, 2001 10:49 am

all the central locking motors are the same i think. on the back they are connected to the latch with a rod and operate it like the lock barrel would on the front i.e. pulling or pushing the rod (the is no lock on the back see <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br>on the front the front the motor is screwed onto the latch and works by pulling and pushing a lever on the latch. this lever is the only difference between central locking latches and normal ones.<br><br>the motor can be attached to the manual latch but you will need to fabricate a lever which is what i'm doing <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/tounge.gif">....breath... <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/tounge.gif"><br><br>i tried mine today and it worked after applying a tin of wd40 to the latch. still isn't sorted though cos i need to fabricate said lever and wire in the loom... then there's the windows! <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/tounge.gif"><br><br>hope thats of some use <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/tounge.gif"><br>l8er!
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Postby Project on Wed Mar 14, 2001 9:33 am

Right, forgive me if I sound a little distracted (I'm eyeing up the most gorgeous brunette you've ever seen... <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/biggrin.gif">)<br><br>I think I'm gonna sell one of the door lock motors and keep the other for the passenger side unless somebody makes me a reasonable offer (reasonable - I'm not looking to be a millionaire on this one...)<br><br>Sorry to mess you all about like this :-/
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Postby mec on Thu Mar 15, 2001 6:55 am

central lockings in! <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/tounge.gif"><br>my home-made latch lever works a treat!<br>if i'd have known this before i could have just bought 2 motors and saved me 'sen some cash.<br><br>now i can get me new alarm sorted, but i'm leaving the windows for a while as i've got no time. <br>coursework deadline in 5 weeks..aahhh! <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/tounge.gif"><br><br>they do actually work which was quite a suprise but they dont want to go right up to the top for some reason.
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Postby Project on Thu Mar 15, 2001 9:22 am

The glass is probably slightly out of alignment - it should be fitted pressed up against the rear guide rail, I think - otherwise, it'll jam at the top, as I found when I re-fitted my newly tinted bad boys <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/biggrin.gif"><br><br>Or you could have a problem somewhere, or the position of the wire might be wrong, so the motor thinks its reached the top of the door 'cos it's run out of wire... who knows???
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Postby mec on Thu Mar 15, 2001 10:15 am

i think its the wire 'cos they're not supposed to be there! <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/tounge.gif"><br><br>i think cutting back the cable sheath would cure it but thats next to impossible. i might try and cut the little green tension spring guide thingies.<br>also the upper cable is way too long but theres not really much i can do about that either. they still fit in though..just.<br>if i cant do it i'll just make an adaptor bracket to raise the window up a bit.
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Postby mec on Sat Mar 17, 2001 8:44 am

probably wise, but i paid good money for them so i'm determined to make them fit! <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/tounge.gif"><br><br>should have plenty of time in the summer though before i trek off to uni <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/tounge.gif"><br>i'm really looking forward to spending some quality time with me motor <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/tounge.gif"><br>lots of things need doing
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Postby Project on Sat Mar 17, 2001 1:09 pm

Y'know, in the name of reliability and fiddling about with funny s*** and extremely powerful motors, glass, etc, I think I'm gonna just go buy the bloody frame that I should-a nicked when I got the motors!
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