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Postby Gaz7 on Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:52 pm

03-07-06 - For individual advice about your particular paint finish and what products would be suitable, or advice about how to use what you've purchased, feel free to contact me via email on

enquiries@detailedobsession.co.uk

My full website will be up and running soon, and i'll post when this is completed.

**New demo photo's added, page three**



Hi everyone. After years on this site, many people know me, and my FRST. Over the past year or so, i've branched out in my spare time, to test as many detailing products as possible, to find my favourites, and to break from the norm. I've now decided to start my own business offering detailing, and professional detailing products, to help people achieve the best possible finish on their cars.

To start with, i've realised many people start their washing/detailing process incorrectly, hindering their later polishing stages, and the quality of their overall finish. Therefore, to start with, i'm going to offer a 'Detailing Starter Kit'.

This will consist of:

1xEuro W lambswool washmitt.
1xEuro W Micro-fibre washmitt.
1xPoorboy's Waffle Weave Drying Towel.
1xPoorboy's Slick and Suds vehicle shampoo.

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After testing many different items, these are easily my personal favourites, and i've had nothing but positive feedback from other users. These should replace your sponge and chammy.

The reason for this is that a sponge and chammy have no pile, thus no ability to draw dirt away from the surface. As you wash the car, they are dragged along your paintwork, causing swirling, and micro-marring.

The two wash mitts are imported from California, and the lambswool mitt has the deepest, softest pile out of any mitt that i have tried. This should be used on your paintwork and glass. The M/F mitt is more hard wearing and is for wheels, sills and arches etc. These are the best mitts available, and cheaper and superior to the more common Meguiar's mitts.

The drying towel is a large 12x24 inches, and can absorb ten times it's own weight in water. It's fully machine washable, and long lasting.

The Slick and Suds is also easily my favourite auto wash. It beats AutoGlym vehicle shampoo, and Meguiars Gold Class (my previous favourite) with ease - it contains a lot of lubricant to help protect the finish as you wash. It also comes in a large, 32oz, long lasting bottle.

The prices for these items are:

Euro W lambswool washmitt. - £7.95
Euro W Micro-fibre washmitt. - £7.95
Poorboy's Waffle Weave Drying Towel. - £8.95
Poorboy's Slick and Suds vehicle shampoo. - £11.95

As a group buy, i'll be offering all this for £34.50 + P&P. I'll also be including a free generic microfibre buffing cloth worth £3.50 in each kit.

I'll be available to back up all purchases with detailed technical support via email or this site, and have many different products becoming available. If you would like to know what's best for your individual car, feel free to ask.

I have five of these kits available at this price, if you're interested, let me know below.

If you are interested in buying just one or more of the products, just let me know.

Happy Detailing!

MORE PRODUCTS ADDED TO GB:

Take care of your wheels and tyres! Products i can make available for wheel care are:

Poorboy's Spray and Rinse to cleanse dirty wheels.

Poorboy's Wheel Sealant to protect and seal clean wheels, giving a slick, shiny finish, and creating a barrier between the wheel and brake dust.

Poorboy's Bold 'n' Bright - my favourite water based tyre shine. Can give a range of different finishes depending on the application technique - so you can get the finish you want. Also, will not sling if applied correct, like gel based tyre shines can.

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The Spray and Rinse is £11.95 for a large, long lasting 32oz bottle.
The Wheel Sealant is £11.95.
The Bold 'n' Bright is £7.45.

I can make these available individually, or as a pack for £30 + P&P, including a free micro-fibre work towel.


Clay Bar and Detailer Lubricant added, 16-06-06:


Claying is a stage that many UK car enthusiasts miss out - but it is finally becoming more recoginised. Claying your car removes contaminants from the clearcoat (or solid paintwork), that no other method can remove - not even huge amounts of polishing. The clay removes acid rain residue, air pollutants, industrial fall out, brake dust and disc residue and more. Claying gives your paint a perfect, smooth as glass finish, which in turn enables all your following detailing stages, polishing etc, to work to the best of their ability, and achieve a better shine.

To test if your car needs claying, put your hand in a plastic sandwich bag and rub it over the paint - if it feels anything other than completely smooth like wet glass - it requires a clay. If your car has not been done before, it will definately need doing, even it is brand new. Any roughness, or spots or lumps in the paint you can feel, will be removed by the clay bar.

Therefore, i am offering the Poorboy's Clay Bar, and ClearKote Quik Shine, together as a group buy.

The PB's clay is a moderately strong bar, and stronger than Meg's Quik Clay. Whilst the latter is good for beginners, the PB's clay can achieve a cleaner finish, much more quickly, and can be used by beginners and professionals alike. It is also capable of removing harsher contaminants than the QC, so is very suitable for cars that have not been clayed before.

ClearKote Quik Shine is the best available quick detailer on the market. Suitable for use on the whole car, it can be used to wipe down clean cars, wipe down clean cars that have stood (without being rained on), remove missed spots after a wash, and remove bird droppings and spot stains between washes. You can also use it as a top up finish between details (i.e after just a wash), and some people like to use it after their finishing wax, as in some cases it can enhance the shine even further. In this case, it would be acting as the lubricant for the clay bar, but you would benefit from all it's other uses once the claying process is complete.

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The PB's Clay is £8.95, and the CK Quik Shine £9.95.

Here they'll be offered together for £17.90 + P&P

More Products added 21-06-06

Lots of people have enquired about polish and waxes, and products like these, so i have decided to make these more available. To start with there will be:

Polishes:

ClearKote Vanilla Moose Glaze

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Poorboy's Polish with Carnauba Blue

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Poorboy's SSR1

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Glaze:

ClearKote Red Moose Machine Glaze

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Sealants:

Poorboy's EX

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Poorboy's EX-P

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Waxes:

Poorboy's Natty's Blue

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Optimum Car Wax

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Different combinations and products work best on different colours and paint finishes, so feel free to ask what would be best for your own car. I also have further products available should you have a paint finish that requires these :)

ADDED 13/07:

I thought customs had lost this one, but it's here at last...

ClearKote Carnauba Moose Wax:

This liquid top of the line finishing wax is the ultimate finish for solid reds and blacks. For red and black FRST's, this cannot be beaten, even by much more expensive products. It produces a deep, glossy, wet shine on all finishes, and is suitable for all colours and paint types. It's extremely easy to use, durable and long lasting. £14.95.

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Also, new demo photo's, page three.

Gareth :)
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Postby Brycey on Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:02 am

He's not wrong ;)

Poorboys is very good stuff indeed and im sure people who buy these kits will notice the difference between the 'normal' products such as Meguiars and AutoGlym to PoorBoys and the other products Gaz has lined up.

Although i'm suprised you haven't sorted this detailing business out sooner Gaz :P

I can back Gaz up for the quality of the products and you won't regret it :D
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Postby mike_wall15 on Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:02 am

Hehe, it was only yesterday in a thread that Brycey and I mentioned you and your detailing! :Q
This would be a top quality purchase for you guys :aviator:

I'll be watching closely when you introduce some glazes and sealants! :D

One question though, is the lambswool mitt washable? That's what I like about the microfibre ones you see, very easy to wash, and boy do mine get dirty! :aaah:

Cheers

Mike :)

P.S. Good luck with the venture! Will you do actual details or just sell the products?
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Postby Gaz7 on Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:07 am

Brycey and Mike - thanks for your support :) As you've pointed out, the Poorboy's brand is excellent, and well received in the USA, we detailing is far superior to what we currently have in the UK. Hopefully, i can bring the brand to more people, and it's popularity will grow.

I am also offering a detailing service, alhough this is currently restricted to the Essex area. I had a chap visit me from Ipswich with a VX220 Turbo today, and he seemed pretty pleased :)

As for the lambswool mitt - i don't recommend machine washing. This really reduces it durability, and you'll be forever buying new ones. As it won't be used on wheels or sills, i just hand wash at the end of the wash. Six months later, my mitt is still going strong :)

Gareth :)
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Postby Gaz7 on Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:09 am

Mike - what car do you have at the moment, and what colour is it? I already carry glazes and sealants, so i'm sure we could sort something out if you were interested :)

Gareth :)
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Postby mike_wall15 on Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:14 am

6 months eh, now that is what I wanted to hear. Maybe I'll have to purchase one! :oops:

Are you able to get any Blackfire Wet Diamond? I've heard this is good for metalics...

Basically I wouldn't mind a wash mitt, a decent new glaze (something you'd recommend on a silver Civic Type R), and some wet diamond, and that'll keep me happy for a bit without going OTT.

Cheers

Mike

EDIT Currently use Megs Clay, Micro Mitt, Step 2 Polish, Turtle Wax Gloss Guard and the results are quite good...
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Postby heeman10 on Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:14 am

This is interesting! Good luck with it all matey! I'm fully stocked up on stuff at the mo, but will request your services when I run out, and when I have bodywork that deserves the fine care you can provide! :)
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Postby Brycey on Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:14 am

Gaz, you're welcome mate :) You also have PM btw.

Mike has a Silver (*cough* boring) Honda Civic Type-R :)
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Postby Gaz7 on Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:22 am

Mike - I currently have no plans to stock Blackfire products. Whilst i have tried them, and i think they're very good, i struggle with the price somewhat - i don't want people to think i'm recommending expensive products for the sake of it, and i think you can get just as good a finish using slightly cheaper items.

I'd stick with your Meg's clay, which i'll assume is quick clay, as this is quite a good all-round performer.

The glaze to go with is ClearKote Red Moose Machine Glaze, it's by far and away the best i've ever used. Before i tried it, i was suspicious because all the American detailers really rave about; however, i was not disappointed. It performs well on all colours that i've tried it on.

As for sealant, i's use Poorboy's EX-P to pop your flake - excellent value for money and it has good durability. Here is an example of EX-P popping the flake in the sunshine on my Lotus:

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Postby mike_wall15 on Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:26 am

Thanks for your honest opinions Gaz, I'll pm you with regards to things I may order :)
It's nice to hear that you're taking price and performance into consideration :aviator:

Cheers

Mike

P.S. Brycey - it is not boring! :P Broooom broom! :Q
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Postby Gaz7 on Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:33 am

Heeman - thanks mate, if you need anything in the future, just give me a shout :)

Bryce - silver can indeed be a little tricky to get a shine on compared to other colours ;)

Mike - no problems at all - i'll always try to give the best advice i can, without simply trying to sell the most expensive thing i can :)

Gareth :)
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Postby KEVFRST on Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:40 am

top lad........hope this goes well 4 u, u lil bufty!!!!


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bring some cleaning gear to the next show and show me how well it works........u defo got a customer here.
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Postby Superal on Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:48 am

Might purchase a kit soon...you got anything to help with surface scratches too :)
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Postby Max M4X WW on Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:21 am

Sweet, Will be buying this soon i think! Willing to give it a try.

Need some advice on my paint etc really.

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Postby Capri on Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:06 am

Put me down for a kit please, Gaz. Can you PM me with where to send payment? I can pay by PayPal if you want. :)
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Postby Gaz7 on Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:29 am

Capri - PM sent mate :)

Kev - cheers mate, i'll do my best to attend the major shows workload permitting, and i'll bring a selection of products with me. I have some special finishing wax for red cars mid-atlantic as we speak ;)

Superal - yes, i've got a range of things that may be able to help you. Do i take it you mean swirling, or actual scratches? Both will be a little tricky to actually remove fully by hand, although i have two separate hand products, that will remove some swirling, and mask the rest with fillers contained within their chemical make up. Both of these products will work on a Mecury Grey car.

Max - no problem mate. Is your car clearcoated, or is it solid Diamond white?

Gareth :)
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Postby Gaz7 on Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:13 am

Wheel product group buy added to top post.

Gareth :)
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Postby Gaz7 on Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:34 am

I also have a range of polishes, glazes, sealants and waxes to suit a wide variety of paint finishes. Which ones are suitable for you depend on the colour and finish of your car, and the finish you are trying to achieve. If you're interested, let me know details about your car and paint, and the finish you want, and i'll make recommendations :)

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Postby Brycey on Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:33 am

Perfect service from Gareth, helpful and can tailor all products to your car.

My order has already gone in for quite a lot of his products, can't wait till it all arrives and I can get bufty :D
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Postby ianFRST on Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:00 pm

just seen this :o

im in the market for new products, so ill be interested in a fair bit.

i currently use the MEG lambs wool mit, clean the car with halford shampoo stuff. rinse the car off, then use the autoglym blade to get the excess water off. and if i can be arsed, just use the autoglm resin polisn on the car.

now, the paint has a few swirl marks on it, from when my dad washed it the 1st few times with a sponge :( so i wana try and get these out aswell

what do you recommend for washing the car, then polish wax and the like (ive never waxed a car before. so whats all that about :lol: )

focus st, electric orange btw :D
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Postby Gaz7 on Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:16 pm

Brycey :Perfect service from Gareth, helpful and can tailor all products to your car.

My order has already gone in for quite a lot of his products, can't wait till it all arrives and I can get bufty :D


Thanks again mate :) I appreciate support from fellow FT.com members such as yourself :)

Gareth :)
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Postby Brycey on Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:28 pm

Credit where credits due Gareth ;)

Ian - Throw away the blade! Think about it, you are literally wiping dirt,dust,stones and contaminants across the paintwork :aaah:

This is why you should use MicroFibre clothes because the fibres draw the water and any surface contaminants away from the paint whilst drying.
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Postby Gaz7 on Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:38 pm

ianFRST :just seen this :o

im in the market for new products, so ill be interested in a fair bit.

i currently use the MEG lambs wool mit, clean the car with halford shampoo stuff. rinse the car off, then use the autoglym blade to get the excess water off. and if i can be arsed, just use the autoglm resin polisn on the car.

now, the paint has a few swirl marks on it, from when my dad washed it the 1st few times with a sponge :( so i wana try and get these out aswell

what do you recommend for washing the car, then polish wax and the like (ive never waxed a car before. so whats all that about :lol: )



focus st, electric orange btw :D


Okay, Electric Orange is an interesting one. It's painted in a different way to normal Ford cars. The process of painting is, IIRC,

Primer Coat(s)
A coat of undercoat.
A colour coat, although this is more likely two, as orange does not harden well.
The first application of clearcoat, likely to be a twin layer.
A coat of translucent silver. This gives the 'electric' finish to the paint.
This is finished with the final clearcoats.

You'll need products to wetten the paintwork in the shade, and bring out the flake and 'electric' effect in the sun.

Your starting point, of course, will be no more sponge washing ;) You don't want to make the defects any worse than they are - electric orange is suprisingly hard for a Ford paint, thus hard to correct.

I assume you'll be working by hand? You may find it hard to correct swirling by hand, especially on this paint, but there are many good products that well help take some of them out, and mask the others.

For a polish, you could choose between ClearKote Vanilla Moose Glaze, or Poorboy's Polish with Carnauba Blue. The VMG has more correctional abilities, and will leave a nice bright finish. The PB's has more fillers to mask swirls, and will leave a deeper, wetter look.

Both of these should be followed with ClearKote Red Moose Machine Glaze, for a brilliant deep wet look.

This should be sealed in with EX-P; the best product to bring out the flake and silver layers in the sun.

Waxing should be slightly different than for other paints. I've found it's best to wax with Natty's Blue, and to top this later and in between full details with Optimum Car Wax. Some people would just read the ingredients and say not to do this - as OCW has some cleaners and they would argue it would remove some of the Natty's. However, I haven't just read the ingredients; i've actually tried this out, and it gave the best possible finish on Electric Orange - it's my actual finishing stage for my Lotus as well. Plenty of American detailers also use this method.

Gareth :)
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Postby Gaz7 on Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:41 pm

Brycey :Credit where credits due Gareth ;)

Ian - Throw away the blade! Think about it, you are literally wiping dirt,dust,stones and contaminants across the paintwork :aaah:

This is why you should use MicroFibre clothes because the fibres draw the water and any surface contaminants away from the paint whilst drying.


Sound advice.

I really wouldn't advocate the use of a blade - you may be fine for years, then one day you'll get a little bit of grit underneath it and.....

Gareth :)
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Postby Capri on Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:43 pm

Just sent payment Gaz. Prompt and efficient service thus far. I look forward to trying out these new unguents :D
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Postby Gaz7 on Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:02 pm

Thanks Alex. Payment received, and your order is being boxed ready for dispatch. :)

Gareth :)
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Postby ianFRST on Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:15 pm

pm on its way gaz.

ill stop using the blade then :D :Q (and yes, i have scratched the bonnet once using it, luckily it polishe out :oops: )
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Postby Gaz7 on Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:40 pm

Alex, your order is posted :)

Ian, lol about the blade, you have proved my point ;)

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Postby Max M4X WW on Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:46 pm

Im pretty sure its just flat white Gaz, What do you mean by what finish do i want? Whatever looks best on a white car! 8)
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Postby Gaz7 on Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:00 pm

Max - i've got products that would give you two different possible finishes. The most popular is clean and bright, or you can go for a deeper, pearled look. That's catching on in the USA a little, but i still prefer the clean and bright look - it's impossible to get true deep shines on white like you can with dark cars, and sometimes it doesn't look quite right when you try.

For solid Diamond White, i'd use:

Poorboy's Clay, to clean the paint up with some moderate agression.

ClearKote Vanilla Moose Glaze (or even an actual abrasive polish if the paint had gone a little flat or 'grey', but i'm sure this doesn't apply to your car.), to achieve a nice shine with the polish. Seal this with Poorboy's EX-P, and wax with Optimum Car Wax - the best last stage on white cars.

It'll look like this:

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The only difference being that car had an abrasive polish stage before the VMG, as the paint had gone almost entirely grey - it was well cared for, but it's done 100k with only washing and no polishing by the previous owner.

Gareth :)
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Postby Max M4X WW on Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:03 pm

Looks good, Dont really have any decent pics of my car showing the shine.

Will try and get some tomorrow to show you.

The pearly thing doesnt sound too good really.

ATM i use..

Megs quik clay
ag ultra deep shine
ag extra gloss protection

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Postby Gaz7 on Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:01 pm

Meg's Quik Clay will be fine for you to use, although the formulation, and the amount of fillers it contains, means UDS isn't overly well suited to a white car. You may find that you prefer the finish from a brighter polish like VMG.

AG EGP is also a decent product, but hard to use compared to EX-P, and is an 'all-rounder' rather than a dedicated product, so this can hamper your results.

Finishing with OCW will add an extra dimension to your finish - and it's a fantastic, all car product - no need to be careful, it goes on the paint, glass, rubbers, plastics etc. It layers really well, and doing one layer, once you're used to it, will only take about 10-15mins on a Fiesta. Therefore, it's an easy top up stage between full details too - after a wash, leave another ten minutes to re-wax, and you'll have another layer of OCW on, and an even better finish :)

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Postby Max M4X WW on Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:03 pm

Cool, I find cleaning my car takes the longest cleaning, polishing, waxing and drying etc round the kit, spoiler, windows, mirrors etc etc.
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Postby Gaz7 on Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:07 pm

Agreed - that is very time consuming. Many of the new products i am offering will not harm or mark plastics etc in the way many AG or Meg's products do.

I use OCW on many different cars, becasue the finish it gives is excellent, and it's an extremely convienient product to use.

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Postby Max M4X WW on Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:08 pm

Ok cool, will hopefully sort some stuff out once i get paid and in time for ford fair.

Can someone explain the two bucket method, i thought it was use one bucket for the wheels, dirty bits etc and one for the body. But i think it might be one with the soap and one without for rinsing the mitt in between!
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