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Postby Mental Mk2 on Sat Dec 29, 2001 5:08 pm

This is a classic example of how *not* to brag about your tuning plans. Read on... (Proj)

Anyone know of a company that will turbo a zetec engine and how much this will cost roughly?

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Postby chumkila on Sun Dec 30, 2001 8:28 am

Fiesta Frenzy. probably looking at around £2.5K.
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Postby crazy dave on Tue Jan 01, 2002 6:47 am

01522 877887 (f.frenzy ian howell)
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Postby Mental Mk2 on Tue Jan 01, 2002 7:52 am

Cheers boys, some money coming my way soon. Turbo conversion i think :grin: :grin:
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Postby rs125 on Tue Jan 01, 2002 8:07 am

Can you just purchase the parts from them and carry out the conversion yourself??(i don't want to pay them for something i can do :rolleyes: ) :smile:
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Postby crazy dave on Tue Jan 01, 2002 8:48 am

its not that easy the work involved in the conversion means at the end of the day you might as well let ian assemble it as well, you will have to install it anyway as he is concentrating on building his focus and hasn't got the time to do an install. but he will still build engines for customers call him he did mine and i was well happy.
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Postby elm_us on Tue Jan 01, 2002 2:13 pm

rather pay than have a boddger barry job "warrinty
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Postby chumkila on Tue Jan 01, 2002 2:20 pm

if u do it urself you WONT even have a warranty! :eek:
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Postby Guest on Wed Jan 02, 2002 9:02 am

WHAT!!!!????? 2.5K for a pooty turbo conversion! I could do it for half that amount and it would still blow a 2.5K job into the ground!
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Postby Ian C70T5 on Wed Jan 02, 2002 9:08 am

Chum... Dont talk to me about warranty :mad:

And me0u021e, you recon you can build a Zetec turbo better than Ian H.. Off you go matey..
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Postby chumkila on Wed Jan 02, 2002 10:20 am

yea i know Ian, im real sorry about ur problems recently. :sad:

me0u021e go for it man, get building!! Zetec Turbo mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!! :grin:
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Postby Project on Wed Jan 02, 2002 11:32 am

me0u021e - tell us more fella - how come you can do a better job? (And I'm not saying you can't - I'm genuinely interested fella) :smile:
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Postby Guest on Wed Jan 02, 2002 2:45 pm

So does he build a 1.8 turbo zetec 16v? That runs 3bar boost with the engine turned off? Well when you play the game you turbo your car properly. People have to spend alot to hold boost in whilst using it. Well I drop the compression right down to about 5:1, strap on a big turbo compressor, put in some long shallow cams, gas flow the head, write a program to control the lot and bobs your uncle, masses of power from a tiny engine, we talk 450hp easy. Not really for a fiesta that one unless you like eating driveshafts and gearboxes, but get a "RWD"er, slap in a cossie box and capri diff with a set of wide rims, kills most things, apart from figther jets and f1 cars.
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Postby Gaz7 on Mon Jan 07, 2002 7:39 pm

errr...... each to their own. 5:1 compression......?

Anyway......... i'm sure you can impress me with it when its done :wink:

BTW 3 bar is approx 43.5 psi of boost - nice.

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Postby AdrianFRST on Mon Jan 07, 2002 8:02 pm

me0u021e,

When you've built the fastest five or six Fiestas in the world then maybe we might listen to you. :wink:
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Postby Gaz7 on Mon Jan 07, 2002 8:10 pm

i'll just be impressed by you showing me a boost gauge pointing at 3bar for a 1.8 zetec!!! :grin:

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Postby Guest on Tue Jan 08, 2002 7:13 am

Well you see, everyone seems to want to run of std ecu's and std turbo charging systems. This is limits you to power.
ECUs can't hold enough information on them as they are made asthetically not practically.
Turbo charging the std way causes lag and a minimum of about 7:1 comp ratio.
Like I said when you do it properly you let the boost charge the cylinders not the engine.
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Postby Excursion on Tue Jan 08, 2002 2:35 pm

you sound like one of the old school like me mate.

I use plastic pistons like in the good old days!! ive managed to build a few 3:1 comp engines but the plastic shortened con rods are very probitive due to cost

I regularly see 620bhp on the dyno
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Postby Guest on Tue Jan 08, 2002 3:27 pm

You use plastic con rods? They developed the ford plastic engine at my uni, never released it though I think.
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Postby sunnyFRST on Tue Jan 08, 2002 4:38 pm

On 2002-01-08 06:13, me0u021e wrote:
Well you see, everyone seems to want to run of std ecu's and std turbo charging systems.


Nah! Not Everyone! :wink:

What do you drive?


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Postby Excursion on Tue Jan 08, 2002 4:54 pm

me0u021e - the plastic engine was developed at wingwood in the USA - not at Liverpool uni
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Postby chumkila on Wed Jan 09, 2002 9:42 am

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Postby Guest on Wed Jan 09, 2002 12:53 pm

Did I say the whole of the plastic engine was developed? No. I just read a bit of stuff about it on a wall in my uni.
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Postby Guest on Wed Jan 09, 2002 12:57 pm

As to the std ecu comment, your ecu is std, probably got a different CPU in it (a chip to anyone that doesn't know). The "chip" doesn't contain an uprating on the memory so therefore that is the limiting factor. Run your car off a laptop and bobs your uncle, faster, more variable, more tuneable "chip"
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Postby chumkila on Wed Jan 09, 2002 1:48 pm

CPU = Central Processing Unit! :smile:

P.S. me0u021e i werent laughing at you m8 just at the comment. :smile:
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Postby Excursion on Wed Jan 09, 2002 2:45 pm

me0u021e come on lets jolly flip!
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Postby sunnyFRST on Wed Jan 09, 2002 8:14 pm

On 2002-01-09 11:57, me0u021e wrote:
As to the std ecu comment, your ecu is std, probably got a different CPU in it (a chip to anyone that doesn't know). The "chip" doesn't contain an uprating on the memory so therefore that is the limiting factor. Run your car off a laptop and bobs your uncle, faster, more variable, more tuneable "chip"


If your referring to me on this one then your totally wrong - std ECU - Whats one of them???? :grin:

I am sure theres a few people that know what I am talking about. :wink:
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Postby chumkila on Thu Jan 10, 2002 9:09 am

On 2002-01-09 13:45, Excursion wrote:
me0u021e come on lets jolly flip!


no baby no!!! :devil:
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Postby Guest on Thu Jan 10, 2002 11:39 am

So Sunnyfrst, what engine management system do you run on your car then?
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Postby sunnyFRST on Thu Jan 10, 2002 12:34 pm

Pectel Managment :grin:

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Postby Excursion on Thu Jan 10, 2002 5:18 pm

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Postby chumkila on Thu Jan 10, 2002 5:27 pm

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Postby Guest on Fri Jan 11, 2002 10:07 am

A few "quotes" ago I wrote:
As to the std ecu comment, your ecu is std, probably got a different CPU in it (a chip to anyone that doesn't know). The "chip" doesn't contain an uprating on the memory so therefore that is the limiting factor. Run your car off a laptop and bobs your uncle, faster, more variable, more tuneable "chip"

Then sunnyfrst replied:
If your referring to me on this one then your totally wrong - std ECU - Whats one of them????

I am sure theres a few people that know what I am talking about.

So I replied:
So Sunnyfrst, what engine management system do you run on your car then?

He replied:
pectel management :grin:

Now I'm interested in this last response in relation to his previous quote.

There are a few options here:

a) He took his car to pectel and they re-wrote their managment system for him and gave him a one off system with loom and sensors.

b) He took a std (standard) ecu and loom off a different car and put it in his fiesta.

personally I'd go for the latter.

Who knows what he is talking about anyway?
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Postby PhilM on Sat Jan 12, 2002 11:42 am

Hmm :wink:

Pectel offer a variety of ECU packages taylored to intended usage.

Sunnys pectel ECU is NOT a P8 blagged from an Escort Cossie.

Its one of Pectels motorsport ECU, which is deisgned exactly for this sort of usage.

To quote Pectel:

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We have been a manufacturer of automotive electronic control systems for more than ten years. Our ECUs, wiring looms and logging equipment are used by a large number of motorsport teams and individuals all around the world, and many have benefited from considerable success with our products. We believe that the systems we produce are among the best in the world, and the success that our products have enjoyed, both recently and in the past certainly supports this view.

Pectel systems were used by the winning Nissan BTCC team in 1999, and are currently installed in this year's championship dominating Ford Mondeos. The Ford and Hyundai World Rally Teams also make use of Pectel ECUs in their respective cars.

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SO they are not "standard" ecus blagged from other cars, far from it.

In answer to your question, who knows what they are talking about, it appears Sunny does, and Ian Howell and Ahmed seem to agree with his choice of ECU. :rolleyes:
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Postby chumkila on Sat Jan 12, 2002 11:53 am

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