[info] Zetec-turbo injectors that fit Zetec fuel rail

Please check here before posting to see if your question has been answered before.

[info] Zetec-turbo injectors that fit Zetec fuel rail

Postby disc on Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:53 pm

[FAQ/Guide'd as it's so useful! - Proj]

OK.
Since I'm plan to build ZT few months ago start search for sidefeed injectors that fit Zetec fuel rail. They can be not direct replacement fot ECC-IV, cause I'll use Megasquirt. And finally found!

Nissan 200SX (S14) injectors fit perfect in Zetec fuel rail! Just need to swap small O-rings, cause Zetec ones is little bit big.

Now some comparison:

Zetec injectors (1 800cc, 105HP):

Flow rate ~ 160-170 cc/min
Impedance - 16 Ohm

Nissan injectors (SR20DET - 2 000 cc, 200HP)

Flow rate - 375 cc/min !!!
Impedance - 10,7 Ohm

So if u plan ZT why don't you take a look at Megasquirt <-Click, also check Asad's Megasquirt topic <-Click. MS is cheap, easy DIY thing.

Now some pics.

Nissan fuel rail:

Image


Nissan injector:

Image

Image

Image


Zetec fuel rail vs. Nissan fuel rail:

Image


Ford vs. Nissan injector:

Image

Image


And finally Nissan injector in Zetec fuel rail:

Image

Image

Image

Image

But that's not all. If you plan REALLY BIG power 375 cc/min can't be enought. 375 cc/min Nissan injectors are good for 300+ HP. Then... just simply shave the cap of injector!!!

Read more about this mod here:

http://forums.probetalk.com/showthread.php?t=1701147295

Ok, with "shaved" cap now you have ~550 cc/min injectors and can get up to 500HP (!?!).

Have luck!
Sorry for my bad english...
Image
disc
Senior Poster
Senior Poster
 
Posts: 239
Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2004 8:03 pm
Location: Bulgaria
Your car: 1991 Orion ZetecTurbo 270BHP

Postby Captain Tightpants on Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:12 pm

Looks like a good fit mate, top work.

As you say though, I would be concerned for the longevity of the injector drivers with a 10.7 Ohm impedance, On EEC-IV.

Definately the cheap way to do the ZT inlet. Not the best certainly, but a good way.

Thanks,

Steve
Image
Captain Tightpants
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 3723
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2004 8:25 pm
Location: Somerset

Postby Asad on Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:37 pm

You could use those injectors with megasquirt, which is what he is planning.

You dont even need a flyback board.

GL with the install mate!



Asad
Asad
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1139
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am
Location: London

Postby heeman10 on Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:49 pm

This modifying of injectors sounds interesting. Depending on the shape of the underlying cavity the cutting is aimed to open up, it could be either a very simple way of getting better flow rates, or a good way to give yourself four injectors providing varying flow rates!
Image
James .:. 193bhp/245lbft Zetec Turbo Mk3. Click sig for conversion thread + videos .:.
heeman10
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 28746
Joined: Fri Nov 08, 2002 5:32 pm
Location: Somerset
Your car: Audi TT TDI Quattro S line

Postby StreetDragster on Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:05 am

Great info, Cheers Disc!

I'll add this to my website too if you don't mind?

Thanks

Matt
Image
StreetDragster
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1420
Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2003 9:51 am
Location: Blackpool

Postby disc on Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:17 am

Cheers mates!

Scort: Injectors are perfect for my install, but not for ECC...

Asad: Thanks!

heeman10: Try this mod with caution!

StreetDragster: Use all info whenever you like! If you want I can supply part number of injectors.. they are JECS
Sorry for my bad english...
Image
disc
Senior Poster
Senior Poster
 
Posts: 239
Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2004 8:03 pm
Location: Bulgaria
Your car: 1991 Orion ZetecTurbo 270BHP

Postby Avinitlarge on Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:05 pm

I fitted these injectors in my zetec rail in october last year, I am running OFAC management. They seem to be spot on, They do over fuel a little though. Also they are noisy, Even when new they are noisy, After a while you get used to it

NOTE: The Std ford injector power plugs do NOT fit the S14 injectors, You do have to change the plug.
Avinitlarge
Poster
Poster
 
Posts: 180
Joined: Sat Jun 14, 2003 11:58 pm
Location: Rotherham

Postby paradox on Tue May 23, 2006 3:00 pm

will the nissan injectors work with omex managment?
Image
paradox
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 2023
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:33 pm
Location: wolverhampton/telford

Postby allinking on Tue May 23, 2006 6:41 pm

Your best of using a foucs 2.0 manifold if your running a zetec and use any top feed injector :)
allinking
Post Master
Post Master
 
Posts: 810
Joined: Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:36 pm
Location: Essex

Postby disc on Tue May 23, 2006 8:04 pm

Omex wrote:The 600 series ECU has two injector outptuts that are used to control 4 injectors semi-sequentially or up to 8 cylinders batch fired. Injectors should be high impedence, but low impedence injectors can be used with ballast resistors.

The 710 series ECU can control up to 12 injectors sequentially with controls for staged injectors. Injector start angle can be mapped and single cylinder trims are possible. Injectors should be high impedence, but low impedence injectors can be used with ballast resistors.
Sorry for my bad english...
Image
disc
Senior Poster
Senior Poster
 
Posts: 239
Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2004 8:03 pm
Location: Bulgaria
Your car: 1991 Orion ZetecTurbo 270BHP

Postby adamburzynski on Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:17 pm

injector talk baffles me... side fed, top fed, then greens beiges etc,...

can someone do a guide of the differences between the different types, and what can be used with what...
Image
adamburzynski
Poster
Poster
 
Posts: 195
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:28 pm
Location: Derby

nissan injectors

Postby MK4 Rick on Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:20 pm

i have some nissan injectors for sale
MK4 Rick
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1571
Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:51 pm
Location: Manchester
Your car: Mk5 Fiesta

Postby djpleban on Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:57 pm

I have one question. would only fitting the Nissan injectors (without any more mechanical/ECU modifications) give some extra power? would it have some disadvantages? thanks
cheers,
Michael
djpleban
Newbie Poster
Newbie Poster
 
Posts: 1
Joined: Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:44 am
Location: POLAND

Postby disc on Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:34 pm

djpleban wrote:I have one question. would only fitting the Nissan injectors (without any more mechanical/ECU modifications) give some extra power? would it have some disadvantages? thanks
cheers,
Michael


Without any mechanical/ECU modifications your engine will run pig rich and performance will be worst than if you drive your car without engine :D

Engine can burn extra fuel (from larger injectors) only if there is extra air - fuel mixture mut be perfect to get decent or perfect result. If you add just fuel then mixture goes rich and engine can't burn it - result is poor performance or even engine can't start.
Sorry for my bad english...
Image
disc
Senior Poster
Senior Poster
 
Posts: 239
Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2004 8:03 pm
Location: Bulgaria
Your car: 1991 Orion ZetecTurbo 270BHP

Postby gcodin on Sun May 20, 2007 4:43 pm

How's the fuel consumption mate? :D
gcodin
Poster
Poster
 
Posts: 113
Joined: Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:51 pm

Re: [info] Zetec-turbo injectors that fit Zetec fuel rail

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:01 pm

awesome guide! you have just revoluntionised the use of the zetec inlet on Zetec turbo's!
jonyb4
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 9235
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:05 am
Location: Port Talbot, South Wales
Your car: Si 1.8, mk2 950, 2.0 capri

Car: 1995 Ford Fiesta Si 16v

Re: [info] Zetec-turbo injectors that fit Zetec fuel rail

Postby Tweek on Sat May 19, 2012 7:01 pm

Just bought some of those injectors as a Plan-B for my ZT build. Cheers :)
Tweek
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 9240
Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:22 am
Location: Gloucester
Your car: VW Golf GTD

Car: 1996 Ford Fiesta Zetec Turbo

Re: [info] Zetec-turbo injectors that fit Zetec fuel rail

Postby MK4 Rick on Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:22 pm

Mazda RX8 injectors also fit and there 450cc
MK4 Rick
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1571
Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:51 pm
Location: Manchester
Your car: Mk5 Fiesta

Re: [info] Zetec-turbo injectors that fit Zetec fuel rail

Postby disc on Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:25 pm

It's good to know that Rick!
disc
Senior Poster
Senior Poster
 
Posts: 239
Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2004 8:03 pm
Location: Bulgaria
Your car: 1991 Orion ZetecTurbo 270BHP

Re: [info] Zetec-turbo injectors that fit Zetec fuel rail

Postby MK4 Rick on Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:08 pm

If the Subaru injectors go in the zetec rail the RX8 injectors will
MK4 Rick
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1571
Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:51 pm
Location: Manchester
Your car: Mk5 Fiesta

Re: [info] Zetec-turbo injectors that fit Zetec fuel rail

Postby philip_d on Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:46 pm

Just noticed there is two different types of filters for these injectors, which one is best?

one has the filter near the bottom and the other has it near the top?

see here:

http://injector-rehab.com/shop/images/D/jecs3-04.jpg

Link:

http://injector-rehab.com/shop/Nissan-J ... -Feed.html
philip_d
Senior Poster
Senior Poster
User avatar
Posts: 273
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:30 pm
Location: Andover, Hampshire
Your car: Ford Focus RS Mk1


Twitter

The second 20th Anniversary article, a dive into the history of how the site came about is available here: https://t.co/kbCfZ4sf0R

17:44, 4th December 2021 Twitter Web App

To celebrate https://t.co/wXVkvJipaS being 20 years old this year, I've written a series of articles detailing the… https://t.co/B0vE0Y3KvP

17:42, 4th December 2021 Twitter Web App

Follow fiestaturbo.com on Twitter:
http://twitter.com/fiestaturbo/

RSS Feeds

Subscribe to the RSS feed

What is RSS?

RSS is a technology that lets you use special applications or modern browsers to notify you you when a site is updated. You can then read the updated content in that application or your browser.

To subscribe to these RSS feeds you need to copy the links above. For instructions on how to add it to the feeds you keep track of, consult the documentation of your RSS reader.