Rolling road went right this time

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Rolling road went right this time

Postby heeman10 on Thu May 20, 2004 12:17 am

The car went back today, and I stayed with it all the time just to make sure :) It is now holding about 1.5 bar boost (about 23psi), and is giving no less than 150bhp. No torque figures sadly...it's a pretty old rolling road setup. The picture below shows road speed on the left (about 80mph in fourth) and power at the wheels on the right (it rose over 90 but I missed it). He had to stop as the temperature was climing - their fan wasn't too useful :rolleyes: So it's a bit more than 150bhp.

Feels great, but I'm still after more out of it. No problems with the running whatsoever, so I'll be on the case ;) Some pictures...

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Postby mike_wall15 on Thu May 20, 2004 12:34 am

:o

150 bhp!!! :o :o

That is outstanding, well done mate, bet ur well chuffed!!

If I was u tho, I'd go to a decent rollin road and get them to do a graph, then frame the results sumwhere....a diesel to be proud of!

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Postby heeman10 on Thu May 20, 2004 12:34 am

And another thing...I looked at the invoice when I got back to uni today - I was told £150 for the rolling road tune, and it's come up as £250 on the invoice! I will be calling them first thing tomorrow. The guy who worked on it was a really nice guy, I had no problems with them at all, and no grumpiness from them. Only problem is my boost gauge only goes to 20psi :rolleyes: Anyone wanna swap me a 30?!
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Postby EvilDes on Thu May 20, 2004 12:40 am

Well done mate! Glad to see you got it sorted (almost - sort out that quoted price)!

Lookin good!
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Postby heeman10 on Thu May 20, 2004 12:40 am

lol I would mike, but I'm not done yet. Will let the bank balance get itself back to the green and plan in the meantime. I am happy though :)
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Postby mike_wall15 on Thu May 20, 2004 12:42 am

heeman10 :lol I would mike, but I'm not done yet. Will let the bank balance get itself back to the green and plan in the meantime. I am happy though :)


Not done yet!!! :o

Well come September time they'll be another healthy installment of "student loan" and an extended overdraft!! Yeah!

Good luck with it all mate!

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Postby Gaz7 on Thu May 20, 2004 12:44 am

Excellent mate :) Go somewhere else and get a full graph and printout :)

Commonrail next when you're done with this engine ;) :D

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Postby heeman10 on Thu May 20, 2004 12:47 am

Mike - September, it's on! :Q

Gaz - Yeah I'll be doing a fair amount of research through summer, seeing what can be done with this engine to take it to the next level. Economy's amazing, just need a shedload more torque and some more power and it'll be a good un. Commonrail for 2006 perhaps....we'll see ;)
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Postby Gaz7 on Thu May 20, 2004 1:22 am

Once you try CR you wouldn't go back ;) You could make one of those truely fast :D Take a unit from the Mondeo ST TDCi (out later this year plug plug :lol:) 2.2L I-4 turbo, and tune that :D

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Postby andyhardy on Thu May 20, 2004 1:35 am

Great stuff mate - you'll be snapping on my heels now! :o

Bloody weasels! :lol:

How much you hoping for in the end - so it's going to be more on the road when you're travelling at speed (considering their poor fan setup) :D

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Postby RS_Rawli on Thu May 20, 2004 7:17 am

:devil: u already know what i think



FPMSL at that retro rollers :lol: looks like it belongs in a 50's cafe'


stupid power diesel boy :i dont want a boost gauge that reads 30psi, 20psi is pointless for me cos i only got a diesel


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby Max M4X WW on Thu May 20, 2004 9:39 am

Your boost guage is going to be having a fit when you drive it lol.

Thats amazing power though, Whats insurance like? 8)
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Postby Syorme on Thu May 20, 2004 10:20 am

Good to see you got it sorted mate.
Can't believe you want more i'd be well happy with that
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Postby Superal on Thu May 20, 2004 10:45 am

way to go mate!! Nice one! :D
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Postby Max M4X WW on Thu May 20, 2004 10:46 am

What power was it supposed to be as standard?
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Postby SPo0n on Thu May 20, 2004 11:27 am

150bhp :o

nice one, bet it flies
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Postby Smo on Thu May 20, 2004 12:15 pm

That's wicked stuff!

Now you need to go get some inside video clips of it :D
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Postby StoveyXR on Thu May 20, 2004 12:21 pm

Cracking figures...... Go Diesel Power! What's she drive like? Much torque steer?
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Postby Excursion on Thu May 20, 2004 12:39 pm

I'm not sure what plunger is in that Lucas pump, possibly around 10mm so i'm not enturely sure what BHP it will support. But I think it's time for a new turbo.

I'd be interested to see a VNT 20 on there, or even a 25 with some headwork, that would broaden the power band nicely as it's a little short with the current unit.

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Postby andyhardy on Thu May 20, 2004 1:21 pm

Did I hear someone say SANTA POD?

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Postby heeman10 on Thu May 20, 2004 2:55 pm

Rawli - I remember that comment about the boost gauge :lol: *slaps forehead*

Gaz and Excursion - I'll be looking into what can be done with this engine...I suspect I may be better of leaving it as it is and getting a more modern engine in time. If there are any not-too-expensive ways of getting the torque and power I need, I'll look towards those :)

Max - They're 90bhp in the Mondeo, mine was about 100 before the tune. Am calling insurers this afternoon - not gonna be nice :cry:

Andy - I guess maybe 160bhp on the road with air for two reasons. (1) He had to stop because of the temp build-up and (2) yes, proper high flow of cool air would help a lot. It's torque and revs I need from it really - longer gearbox would make it much more driveable.
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Postby Brycey on Thu May 20, 2004 3:13 pm

:o Funkylicious! 150bhp.

Hey,just wait till you get a CommonRail Diesel.

Gaz is right they are just awesome, our Signum demo car is a 3.0V6CDti Common Rail, it easily beats the 2.0Turbo Signum.

Better consumtion,better emmisions.

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Description: 3.0CDTi V6 24v
Capacity: 2958cc.
Maximum power: 177PS (130kW) @ 4000rpm.
Maximum torque: 370Nm (273lb.ft.) @ 1900rpm.
Compression ratio: 18.5:1

Combined MPG - 38.7
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Postby XR on Thu May 20, 2004 3:41 pm

Nice one matey.
Get your self a nice Pro comp Ultra light boost gauge that reads upto 30

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Postby heeman10 on Thu May 20, 2004 4:17 pm

Yeah, Commonrail would be lovely - I'll never say never to that :)

XR - If you know anyone with one of those, and they want a 20psi gauge, gimme a shout!
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Postby Smo on Thu May 20, 2004 4:21 pm

Just wondering, is it possible to fit dump valves to turbo diesels, and would there be any point if you can?
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Postby mmogenius on Thu May 20, 2004 4:44 pm

mark what the bloody hell did you do to that diesel engine....

i was going to put the diesel engine back in another car... i will use a bigger cooler this time to :-) also what size turbo have you used on this ?

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Postby Superal on Thu May 20, 2004 4:48 pm

Smo :Just wondering, is it possible to fit dump valves to turbo diesels, and would there be any point if you can?


dont see why not....plenty of Golf TDI's going around with dump valves
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Postby heeman10 on Thu May 20, 2004 4:53 pm

Yeah you can get dump valves, not that I'll be getting one, I like hearing the wastegate. It'll set you back £200-£300 though, as they don't work in the same way as petrol dump valves.

Mmo - I went to a rolling road with it, sadly Mark can't take credit for this bit! It's still using the standard turbo for now (T1.5 I believe), but I'm looking into my options, and want to get things shifting ASAP.
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Postby Excursion on Thu May 20, 2004 5:55 pm

mmogenius :mark what the bloody hell did you do to that diesel engine....

i was going to put the diesel engine back in another car... i will use a bigger cooler this time to :-) also what size turbo have you used on this ?


I removed the cat mate, and it's got a straight through 2i exhaust system. The I/C is Saab 9000. There was a bit of pressure drop through the cooler, i'd estimate 2-3 psi so 100bhp wasn't bad - if you put a bleed valve on and did yours bye ear I'm sure you'd get 110.
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Postby heeman10 on Thu May 20, 2004 5:57 pm

Mark - forgot to say, it was 12psi, so yes, was losing about 1.5 psi at the cooler.
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Postby Max M4X WW on Thu May 20, 2004 6:38 pm

If you do come to sell this for a modern engine, Let me know.
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Postby Stoned on Thu May 20, 2004 6:41 pm

Wow

thats Golf TDI 150 territory for a fraction of the cost

Well done lads!
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Postby Al on Thu May 20, 2004 6:52 pm

good stuff matey!
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Postby Sauna on Thu May 20, 2004 6:57 pm

Nicest deez I've seen :D

Tastefully styled, with decent performance and fuel economy

good work chap
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Postby 1600power on Thu May 20, 2004 7:51 pm

topstuff dude, these diesels really are making the moves with regards to performance increases over the last few years so respect for sticking with the diesel and not going petrol turbo ;)
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