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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby RSGeorge on Fri May 11, 2012 12:47 pm

knuckles wrote:
jayrs wrote:you redoing the locks your self wayne?


i did them :wink:

so f**k off ! :lol:


LMFAO :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby Tweek on Fri May 11, 2012 1:06 pm

LOL Clark has infact done them for me and apparently they work too :)
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby jayrs on Fri May 11, 2012 3:51 pm

thats good then mate.
i was only going to offer advice if you were going to rebuild them yourself
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby knuckles on Fri May 11, 2012 5:58 pm

:D :lol:
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby jonyb4 on Fri May 11, 2012 8:11 pm

in a strop now :P
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby jayrs on Fri May 11, 2012 8:16 pm

knuckles wrote: :D :lol:



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:bonkers: :P :lol: :lol:
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby jayrs on Fri May 11, 2012 8:22 pm

jonyb4 wrote:in a strop now :P



who? me?

if so, no mate, not at all :)
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby hb69 on Sat May 12, 2012 6:20 pm

Does it have a trip meter Wayne? :aviator:
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Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby dontpannic on Sat May 12, 2012 11:00 pm

Is it going to be a higher spec?


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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby Tweek on Sat May 12, 2012 11:09 pm

Dunno if I can match "high-spec" tbh.
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby jonyb4 on Mon May 14, 2012 12:31 pm

no guys you have to remind me to laugh
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby ~S1~ on Mon May 14, 2012 2:10 pm

Wayne, If you give me your address I'll send you those C-pillar trims.
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby knuckles on Mon May 14, 2012 3:08 pm

ive just found a brand new genuine ford silvertop water pump in my garage if your interested wayne :)
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Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby dontpannic on Mon May 14, 2012 4:23 pm

Feeling left out by not having any required MK3 parts to offer you, I've just found a half eaten chocolate digestive in the back of my shed if you want it Wayne. Just let me know.


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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby Minstral on Mon May 14, 2012 6:10 pm

dont really know whats going on :lol:
but i have a brand new orignal zetec oil filter :P
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Re: Project

Postby jayrs on Mon May 14, 2012 8:17 pm

Sheriff Burman wrote:Feeling left out by not having any required MK3 parts to offer you, I've just found a half eaten chocolate digestive in the back of my shed if you want it Wayne. Just let me know.


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sod him, i'll have that :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby hb69 on Mon May 14, 2012 10:22 pm

Am I still ok to have the 1.3 when it comes out?
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby heeman10 on Mon May 14, 2012 11:12 pm

Can I have jayrs when he comes out?
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby jayrs on Mon May 14, 2012 11:22 pm

heeman10 wrote:Can I have jayrs when he comes out?



wtf

and no :lol:
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby heeman10 on Mon May 14, 2012 11:28 pm

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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby hb69 on Mon May 14, 2012 11:35 pm

heeman10 wrote:Can I have jayrs when he comes out?


:lol: :lol:
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Re: Introducing Katie's Dirty Little Sister...

Postby black2 on Wed May 16, 2012 10:09 pm

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I keep pondering a zt build but i find it a mine field with pistons and rods, i.e what pistons to get, then knowing if i can use standard rods, or if alternative items are required etc. From some research i done a while ago it seemed the vauxhall 86mm pistons were an "easier" way to go, but then the standard rods need adapting to fit!

What pistons and rods are these that you are using?? pm if you dont want to post it here, any help / advice is much appreciated.

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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby - Danny Boy - on Wed May 16, 2012 10:30 pm

Honda pistons. Been covered in the thread somewhere :aviator:
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - New Engine Stripped (20/05)

Postby Tweek on Sun May 20, 2012 7:07 pm

Pistons are made by ARIAS and were actually made for a Honda F22 engine. All the numbers on them add up to fit a ZT though using FRS rods which is nice.

Today I have stripped down the new engine ready to be modified and rebuilt. I had planned on taking a photo of what the engine looks like now but I forgot :lol: Very strange discovery though is that it seems to have a 1.8 head on it?! Not too happy about that, no idea if some came like that from factory or not but I shall be refitting a 2ltr head on anyway. Pics below show the head with the "1.8 HO" stamp, 2ltr ones I've seen have "2.0 MO" stamped inside them :-? It's a 1997 Series 2 engine if that matters.

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And finally, I've also found some Nissan 200SX (SR20DET engine) side-fed injectors rated at 370cc, so if and when they turn up it gives me the option of running the Zetec inlet rather than the FRST.
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Engine Stripped With 1.8 Head?! (20/05)

Postby Rhinopower on Sun May 20, 2012 7:22 pm

Have you got another head yet? The 1.8 head may be fine, it's 45 cc instead of a 2 litre head which is 50cc. It just depends what compression ratio the bottom end gives you. That all needs to be calculated correctly
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Let's Get Started... (10/05)

Postby FRSJON on Sun May 20, 2012 7:35 pm

knuckles wrote:ive just found a brand new genuine ford silvertop water pump in my garage if your interested wayne :)

2.0 or 1.8? if its a 1.8 ill swap you as ive just bought a gen 2.0 :rolleyes:
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Engine Stripped With 1.8 Head?! (20/05)

Postby Smo on Sun May 20, 2012 7:53 pm

Get a syringe and measure those combustion chambers, Wayne.

I can't see there being any other difference between your head and a 2.0 head other than the chambers, so like Ryan says, you may be fine, depending on compression ratio. My 2.0 head was a late one, too, something like a 96 or 97. The one I looked at first with nothing on was an early one. I'd swap you, but the reason I'm not using my 2.0 one is because it's been skimmed so much in a past life that my pretty straight 1.8 head seemed the better option!
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Engine Stripped With 1.8 Head?! (20/05)

Postby Tweek on Sun May 20, 2012 7:59 pm

How do I do that then Mr Barter?

I've googled and ebayed the casting number on the side of the head and every result comes back as a 2ltr? If so then why does it have a fecking 1.8 stamp inside :lol:
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Engine Stripped With 1.8 Head?! (20/05)

Postby Rhinopower on Sun May 20, 2012 8:09 pm

I expect the heads are cast before machining and stamping.

You need to use a syringe to measure the chambers as Simon said, but ....

Put an old cd on top of the chamber, sealed with a smear of Vaseline

Use paraffin to fill, you will know its full when the miniscus is level with the bottom lip of the cd hole. As long as you can fit 50cc in your in luck. Remember tho, this will change when you have the head skimmed. 1mm skim can increase c/r by 0.5 iirc on a 86mm bore zt. If you look back through one of my threads I've got all the calculations you need
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Engine Stripped With 1.8 Head?! (20/05)

Postby MB7201 on Sun May 20, 2012 8:32 pm

Could you not just measure the diameter of the chamber where it's circular?
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Engine Stripped With 1.8 Head?! (20/05)

Postby Rhinopower on Sun May 20, 2012 8:35 pm

MB7201 wrote:Could you not just measure the diameter of the chamber where it's circular?


No. You are measuring volume not diameter.
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Engine Stripped With 1.8 Head?! (20/05)

Postby MB7201 on Sun May 20, 2012 8:38 pm

I would have thought the chamber would be different diameters between the 1.8 and 2.0 though to closer match the bore size?
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Engine Stripped With 1.8 Head?! (20/05)

Postby Smo on Sun May 20, 2012 9:21 pm

As Ryan says, that's pretty much how I measured mine and found out my 2.0 head was pointless! I think all my 2.0 chambers ended up being 44.5cc each.

I know what Mark is trying to say, as the diameter of the rounded part of the chamber should determine whether it is a 1.8 or 2.0 head regardless of what the chamber size is. If Wayne measures his and it's over 80(ish)mm then it should be a 2.0, as I remember checking a 2.0 head out ages back to see if I could use it on a 1.8 block and it was larger than the 1.8 bore... So as a rough answer, it should tell you something!
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Engine Stripped With 1.8 Head?! (20/05)

Postby jonyb4 on Sun May 20, 2012 10:04 pm

which ever head you go with they both flow the same it will just change the CR,

what does that rod and piston combination give on a 2.0 zetec?
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Re: Project "K80" ZT - Engine Stripped With 1.8 Head?! (20/05)

Postby Excursion on Mon May 21, 2012 9:53 am

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I would want the 2.0 head personally, for the better suited squish area and more space around the valve entry, plus the less sharp edges or intrusions inside a Turbo combustion the better.
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