[GUIDE]Footwell neons... ON THE CHEAP!!!

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[GUIDE]Footwell neons... ON THE CHEAP!!!

Postby dontpannic on Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:16 pm

Hi guys. Just installed some blue footwell neons (for those who know - continuing my blue theme within a red car.. :o )

Many of you will see Halfords prices for these beasties - anything upwards from £10/£20/£30. Being a car + computer enthusiast I put my mind to the job to combine the two, and scoured the Case Modding section of eBuyer.

Blue:
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/51686

Red:
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/55288

Blue and Green:
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/105024

UV / Purple:
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/58063

When you unpack the box after delivery - you'll have some molex connectors -

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After these two cables there will be a switch, you can wire this in or leave it, depends on your style. If you dont want the switch, cut the cables after the switch, then connect the cables as below (only difference being the cables are yellow and black, rather than red and black)

The two cables you need are the two circled in this photo. The red is the live, and the black is ground. Find a spare illumination feed and a ground feed and connect these in whatever fashion you like.

Fit the black connector into the Inverter (black block) and connect the two neons with the white connectors into the opposite end of the inverter. Now fix the neon tubes whereever you want them in the car (usually under footwells!!)

Now, if everythings gone well, flick the supplied switch to the on position. Now it won't turn on - but now turn on the lights. It should illuminate your footwells nicely!

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Quite a simple and quick job to do - and only costs £1.99!
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Postby adz on Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:24 pm

hiya mate,

good job :) cool you found it out but cold cathodes is something people have been doing for quite a while, if you wanted to go a bit further, you could hook it up with your interior light to come on when the doors open, and replace the interior light with a white cold cathode.

looks good :)
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Postby ant pittaway on Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:02 pm

cheers for the links mate!




white socks!!! jacko!!! :D
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Postby dontpannic on Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:14 am

ant pittaway wrote:cheers for the links mate!




white socks!!! jacko!!! :D


Hehe. cheers guys. The white socks were with trainers but I threw the work shoes on to go outside to take the photos lol
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Postby dontpannic on Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:35 pm

How can I get this moved into the Guides section?

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Postby JohnBoy_DIY on Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:44 pm

i beleve its already there
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Postby GeForce Junky on Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:51 pm

Looks good. Might have to put some UV ones in my car, to replace the non existant interior light. Do they actually provide much light, or just make everything blue?
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Postby adz on Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:58 pm

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Postby dontpannic on Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:29 am

Yeah, it does give out quite a lot of light, considering it's so cheap.

Thats a good guide but only relates to the boot opening when you already have a boot light - some of us don't have the lamp or the wiring for it, plus this is for the footwells!!
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Postby dontpannic on Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:00 pm

GeForce Junky wrote:Looks good. Might have to put some UV ones in my car, to replace the non existant interior light. Do they actually provide much light, or just make everything blue?


They do provide quite a bit of light, Next ebuyer order I'm going for UV under the footwells, as you cannot see the light until your feet are under there, then a blue/white one replacing the interior light.

Can this be moved to guides yet?
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Postby Tweek on Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:29 pm

Cathode tubes are very bright when the light's shining onto something, or even to look at. UV ones won't light anything up though unfortunately but might make some colours stand out lol.

The brighter ones are white, blue or green :)
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Postby ~ John Reid ~ on Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:53 pm

would be easy to wire it up so when the doors open the cathodes come on.

run the cathode power wire behind the pillar by the front window up to the roof lining. tuck it inbertween the lining and the roof then wire the + and - to the + and - on the interior light then it will work off that power.

so whan ya turn ya interior light on the cathodes come on and when ya open the door they come on aswell.

and ya already have a switch there - might not work but thats how i would do it.
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Postby JohnBoy_DIY on Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:58 pm

Yea it will work tho i hated it and set mine to comeon with the headlights.
and you dont need to go inoto the roof of the car eather just find the earth running from the doors

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Dont forget to wire into both doors otherwise it will only work hen u open one door
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Postby Jonezy on Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:29 pm

grrrr they dont seem to do green. i would only get neons if they were chep and these are!!

do you not need any relays or anything or is it just a case of splicing into the interior light feed?

really wanna do this with green as mine probs one of the only fiestas that could successfully pull it off.
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Postby dontpannic on Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:05 pm

Jonezy wrote:grrrr they dont seem to do green. i would only get neons if they were chep and these are!!

do you not need any relays or anything or is it just a case of splicing into the interior light feed?

really wanna do this with green as mine probs one of the only fiestas that could successfully pull it off.


Should be able to get them in green...

Also try Microdirect, ebuyer or misco...

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Postby Jonezy on Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:31 pm

tryed microdirect alreddy nd they only do them as a well expensive kit (£30).

gonna have to sort the interior light out first as its playin up, works of switch but not when you open the doors, took the light apart to see whats up, everythin seems ok, took the triger in the doors apart and everythin seems ok too, just cleaned the connectors up but still no joy.

had an alarm fitted a while age, could this have caused probs as they havnt worked for a while.

il keep tryin as at 1.99 you cant leave it there.

help on the door bits light trigger greatly apprieciated.
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Postby Jonezy on Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:44 pm

sca.com have the greens, check these out to see if there the same, i assume they are as there sold as a kit.

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=45347

no pics i know but have gander anyway plz.
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Postby dontpannic on Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:21 pm

Jonezy wrote:sca.com have the greens, check these out to see if there the same, i assume they are as there sold as a kit.

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=45347

no pics i know but have gander anyway plz.

Nothing comes up in the images or description for some odd reason, but the title seems kosher.

If it ain't right you can always send 'em back.

WRT the interior light playing up, either clean up or replace the door switches. They were caked up with Copper Oxide when I got mine, so just clean the green crap off them...

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Postby Jonezy on Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:43 pm

no green crap, rubbed em down anyway to nice shiny copper tho, wierd how both sides stop working at once tho, think the alarm guys had summat to do with it.
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Postby dontpannic on Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:49 pm

Jonezy wrote:no green crap, rubbed em down anyway to nice shiny copper tho, wierd how both sides stop working at once tho, think the alarm guys had summat to do with it.


Possibly - both mine went at the same time. Bit gay really lol
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Postby Jonezy on Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:44 pm

wierd, its fixed its self. wonder how long for.

awel once i pay off some debts and get some cash in the bank il get on with this muhmuh
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Postby Aaron_UGL on Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:54 pm

I have a MK5 Fiesta.. I was going to wire it in with the interior light ad I have made MY OWN SWITCH.. will this remain live IE does the light need to be on or the door open for the circuit to be live?

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Postby dontpannic on Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:28 pm

If the switch connects to the door open live / ground, when the switch is on the lights will come on with the doors, but if the switch is off it will stay off. Might be better getting a 3 way switch that will do:

Illumination
Doors Open
Ground

So you can switch between having it on with the illumination or with the doors open....

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Postby Aaron_UGL on Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:37 pm

Here Is Mine...

Drivers Side Looks Dull In Photo - Thanks Again!

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Postby dontpannic on Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:43 pm

Glad I could be of assistance. Looks nice. May have to go for green or UV in my next fiesta!

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Postby gumbsy1 on Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:39 pm

hi, i am only 16, and i have a mk4 to learn in :) , but i jus bought some of these lights and i avnt got a clue wa 2 do, wer can i find a spare illumination and ground feed?

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Postby gumbsy1 on Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:39 pm

hi, i am only 16, and i have a mk4 to learn in :) , but i jus bought some of these lights and i avnt got a clue wa 2 do, wer can i find a spare illumination and ground feed?

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Postby dontpannic on Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:17 am

They aren't "spare" as such - if you put a CD player in the car, there is an illumination feed which supplies the standard ford unit - in the MK3 the cable was grey/yellow. Not sure about the MK4/5 I'll take a look at Lunchtime. Ground you can use any ground you find, just splice into the feed - I used one of the radio grounds.

Gracefully borrowed from Andy (AW3K):

fiestaguides.co.uk wrote:Pin Number, Colour, Description
1 Orange/Black 12V Permanent Feed
2 Black/Yellow Earth
3 Blue/Black 12V Switched Feed (Accessory)
4 Orange/Black Illumination
5 Black/Orange To Alarm/ PATS
6 Black/Green Earth
7 Not used


Pin 4 is the one to use - cut the cable, connect the two back together and merge with the live for the neons, and the same with the ground (Pin 6).

Hope this helps - if not let me know and I'll take some photos.

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Postby gumbsy1 on Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:44 am

photos would help, cheers

but wont this effect the cd player?
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Postby dontpannic on Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:41 am

gumbsy1 wrote:photos would help, cheers

but wont this effect the cd player?


No. As long as you reconnect the cables to where they came from originally. Basically you are creating a T piece. Can't get photos at the moment but I'll try a ASCII diagram!

Code: Select all

Illumination Feed
                                        ---------------- To Neon Live
From Loom -----------------/---------------- To Radio Pin 4
                   

Ground

                                         ---------------- To Neon Negative
From Loom ------------------/---------------- To Radio Pin 6



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Postby gumbsy1 on Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:52 am

kk, and how do i connect them?
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Postby dontpannic on Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:16 pm

gumbsy1 wrote:kk, and how do i connect them?


Any way you like - bullet connectors, crimps, even just strip the ends off the cables and wrap them together, then insulate with electricians tape. Disconnect the battery first though, as a precaution.

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Postby properphatboy on Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:06 pm

dontpannic wrote: even just strip the ends off the cables and wrap them together, then insulate with electricians tape.


No! Don't! Fire!

If you're going to strip the wires solder them! Then insulate them with heatshrink preferably.
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Postby gumbsy1 on Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:42 pm

has ne1 got a pitcure of their connections please :)

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