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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:18 am

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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby Rhinopower on Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:18 pm

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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby Turboboy67 on Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:21 pm

That seat needs a clean

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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby Excursion on Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:57 pm

They look huge mate, what diameter?
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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby ~nomad~ on Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:00 pm

45mm, dont look huge in the flesh tbh.

If you think that seat is dirty Shaun you should see the drivers one. That he has pooed himself on twice.
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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby Excursion on Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:26 pm

45mm...but earlier you wanted to sacrifice top end for low down torque? :D Assuming a well tuned exhaust and inlet, 45mm will support approx 65bhp per cylinder on an N/A engine. You will loose a lot of low to mid range response with something so large on your engine.
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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby ~nomad~ on Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:30 pm

I will be interested to see how it performs as its a option for mine. I remarked that they looked small when I saw them lol
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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby Excursion on Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:32 pm

~nomad~ :I will be interested to see how it performs as its a option for mine. I remarked that they looked small when I saw them lol



lol. The Pulsar inlet would be a better option for your spec mate. Mine was £35 from eBay.
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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby ~nomad~ on Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:33 pm

but seems to be lots of work to get to fit?
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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:33 pm

They do look big, what are they off?
Maybe using a 105 cam coupled with these will give a balanced torque curve
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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby Smo on Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:40 pm

jonyb4 :They do look big, what are they off?
Maybe using a 105 cam coupled with these will give a balanced torque curve

That would defeat the object even more!
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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby Excursion on Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:48 pm

~nomad~ :but seems to be lots of work to get to fit?



If I get mine done soon you boys can borrow it for a bit to see what you think.
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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby Rhinopower on Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:51 pm

Sounds good mark. Will see how easy they fit, the linkage on these are brilliant and allow you to space them closer or further apart by approx 7mm in total.

Jony these came off a car, I will keep my eyes out for some piper fast road cams

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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby Max M4X WW on Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:52 pm

I wouldn't lend anything to these two, could end up anywhere.
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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby Excursion on Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:54 pm

Rhinopower :Sounds good mark. Will see how easy they fit, the linkage on these are brilliant and allow you to space them closer or further apart by approx 7mm in total.

Jony these came off a car, I will keep my eyes out for some piper fast road cams

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Carbonboy, where's my teabagging?


Yeah that would be handy!
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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby ~nomad~ on Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:01 pm

Max M4X WW :I wouldn't lend anything to these two, could end up anywhere.


I have sold your wheels, deal with it.

Marky Mark and Funky bunch - sounds cheeky, I am intrigued by them, but also by this.

Jony - as Brian says, they are off a car, i can confirm this. Thanks for the advice, i will be sure to file it in my pointless nonsense box.
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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby RS rob on Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:11 pm

~nomad~ :Thanks for the advice, i will be sure to file it in my pointless nonsense box.



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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby Rhinopower on Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:20 pm

Small pictureless update

I've ordered a new flange for the itb's to get the spacing right, the original was too narrow. The bodies themselves are actually 42mm too!

I also picked up a complete 2.0 silvertop for £90, the head is to be sold on and my existing 1.8 head overhauled, new stem seals etc and fitted onto the new bottom end. Im going to start the stripdown of both engines tomorrow. I'm also looking at making a new engine loom to suit the new layout and braid it to look nice.

Also in the interest of keeping the engine build as pikey and cheep as possible I'm going to reuse my old timing belt, pullys and waterpump
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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby jonyb4 on Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:32 pm

oo nice, very cheap

are the 1.8 and 2.0 heads more or less the same then?
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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby Rhinopower on Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:37 pm

1.8 head is higher compression on a 2.0 engine, the combustion chamber is 5cc smaller
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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby jonyb4 on Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:53 pm

cann you not use the 2.0 head on a 1.8 to lower the compression when turboing it?

or am i off the track?
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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby Smo on Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:21 am

jonyb4 :cann you not use the 2.0 head on a 1.8 to lower the compression when turboing it?

or am i off the track?

It's not ideal because the bore size is larger.
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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby rs1800dom on Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:22 pm

itb's, looking forward to seeing them :D

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Re: 1.8 zetec Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's 5/3

Postby Rhinopower on Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:00 pm

Small update.

I had purchased a 2.0 zetec but days later an ST170 engine came available for a price i couldn't refuse so i'm going to slap this in instead.

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Im going to fit the standard st170 side engine mount as i've destroyed two standard zetec mounts. The engine should move less given that its supported on the side, rather than the back of the engine.

I'm still keeping the itb's, i've had a new flange made spacing the ports a bit further apart making them an even better fit. I've got a new megasquirt loom coming which will be braided and terminated in a couple of weeks, and a few changes need making internally so I can have some control of the vvt.

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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Update 20/3

Postby jonyb4 on Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:04 pm

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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Update 20/3

Postby jonboisescort on Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:05 pm

:Q

great stuff mate

is it going to be at fitp ??
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Update 20/3

Postby Rhinopower on Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:06 pm

jonboisescort ::Q

great stuff mate

is it going to be at fitp ??


Absolutely!
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Update 20/3

Postby Excursion on Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:09 pm

Superb mate. If there is room in the budget, get a set of decent cams in there. You'll hit a brick wall with the standard cams.
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Update 20/3

Postby Rhinopower on Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:23 pm

Sadly not mark, Any suggestions what to go for?
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Update 20/3

Postby Excursion on Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:35 pm

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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Update 20/3

Postby jimmyesh on Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:48 pm

Great to see another ST170 MK3 Fiesta in the making - can't wait to see it at FITP :aviator:
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Update 20/3

Postby Ratspeed on Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:18 pm

Everytime i look this car is getting better :Q
It should be a little rocket with the 170 lump in!
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Update 20/3

Postby Rhinopower on Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:21 pm

Those are some expensive cams! I had briefly looked at the newman cams but would still be looking at £350.

And thanks for your help so far Jimmy & Mark!

Im also going to fit power steering, it could do with being a bit lighter, and when strapped in with the harnesses manoeuvring the car can be difficult
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Update 20/3

Postby Tweek on Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:21 pm

This is going to be epic :)
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Update 20/3

Postby Rhinopower on Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:42 pm

I really really hope so! I've not given myself much of a deadline to get it fitted and mapped by but im hoping for bags for noise and power!
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