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[b0yracer]

mine is a 1.11 hcs

1st list (which i think im ok with
1.1 hcs to 1.6 cvh (carb)
1.6 cvh engine
flywheel and clutch
starter
alternator
radiator and hoses
exhaust manifold
inlet and carb
coil/dizzy wireing loom

1.1 to 2.0 zetec
2.0 zetec engine
gearbox/clutch/flywheel
1.6 zetec water pump
1.6 zetec sump/pickup pipe
r5gt oil filter
1.6 si engine loom
ecu/maf sensor (is it maf or map??)
1.6 si rear engine mount
inlet manifold or full inlet (but what off)
gearbox?? (but what off)

thanks dave

[scottybo]

its maf sensor, as far as inlet manifold goes you could use the 1.6 efi one from the fiesta si, you can use the si gearbox as well but im not sure how long it will last with the 2l lump (im sure someone will fill that blank soon) or use the old box from the mondeo you sourced the engine from (assuming it was a mondeo)

[Smo]

or use the old box from the mondeo you sourced the engine from (assuming it was a mondeo)

... which is far from a straight swap!

Easiest option is to use something like the Si box. If you want longer ratios, then an early 1.8 16v BC/B5 box from an Escort or Orion has nice ratios for a 2.0, or an S2 Escort Turbo box has the same ratios, as do some of the MK4 XR3is. I think the Fiesta Turbo box may be the same ratios as the Escort Turbo too, but without the LSD. To be honest, they're all about as weak as one another... Be sensible and they'll last, assuming they're in good condition already, but a few hard launches will make them whine and clunk and crunch quite quickly - trust me, I've killed a few now, with just a 1.8

Some people (myself included now) are using the slightly better iB5 boxes, which are later boxes found in MK6 Escorts. The Zetec models have a rear mounted starter which is ideal for the 2.0 Mondeo lump as the cut-out is already there. You'll need the spacer plate to go with it too, and a bit of messing about with the bracketry on the front gearbox mount. I modified part of a front Zetec-engined gearbox mount and had a support bracket made by a local steel company, but you could get away with using a cradle from a smaller-engined MK3 and most of it will bolt straight up with out much messing about. I wanted the extra strength as I was going to be abusing it

You're best of getting an inlet manifold (and injector plate) from at least a 105PS 1.8 Zetec, i.e. XR3i (105PS), Escort/Orion 1.8 16v (from about 91 to 95ish) or XR2i 16v model. This has the correct size ports for the 2.0 head. Even better would be the RS1800, XR3i 130PS, Orion Ghia Si, etc (anything 130PS) inlet manifold, as the tracts of the inlet are larger than the 105PS models, but still have the correct size ports for the 2.0 head. The injector plates are the same, so don't be fooled by someone saying it's 130PS-specific. The 1.6 Si inlet uses smaller ports and will be quite restrictive - it works, and makes for a fairly torquey(sp?) engine, but the full potential of the 2.0 will be wasted with it.

You'll need the exhaust manifold from a 16v Fiesta or Escort too, along with the exhaust system from a 16v Fiesta (cat/downpipe, midsection and back box). The 16v Fiestas also used a bracket that bolts to the offside rear beam mount for the exhaust to hang from, although my Magnex system actually uses the original hanger that non-16v exhaust systems use.

If your car is non-injection, you'll also need a fuel tank from an injection model, and a fuel pump from something EFi-based. You'll also need the 16v interior loom, or the loom from a MK3/MK3.5 that was fitted with injection and a cat/lambda sensor. If you use a loom from an injection model that didn't use a cat and lambda sensor, you'll need to add an extra wire for the heating of the lambda sensor to your fuse box, fused with a 20A fuse (if I remember correctly). You'll also need a 12 pin connector to wire it all into, so that the 16v engine loom will plug into it.

The last thing I can think of quickly, you may need to drill a new hole for the rear engine mount, as the hole for the 1.1/1.3/1.4/1.6 8v, etc is in the wrong place, but it's not a major job, just some careful planning/thinking required to do a tidy job

I think that's all I need to add at the moment

[Smo]

Also, the alternator.

If you're not using PAS, then you can use an XR2i 16v or early RS1800 alternator bracket, along with a Zetec alternator, or if you're using PAS, then you want the alternator bracket from an Si 16v or a later RS1800, but the same Zetec alternator should be fine.

Another option if not using PAS is the CVH bracket with a CVH alternator and a Zetec pulley swapped on to it.

Personally, I'd stick with the Zetec-based options. This also allows you to add the front Zetec mount if you wish.

Also, when swapping to a 1.6/1.8 Fiesta/Escort waterpump, you'll need the pulley from one of these vehicles too, as the Mondeo one is used on the backside of the belt (hence why you swap the waterpump in the first place), so it has no grooves for the belt to sit into. The one you require has 6 grooves for the inside of the belt to sit in the configuration you'll be using it.

I'm sure there's probably more to mention, but can't think right at the moment!

[b0yracer]

right guys heres the plan now
ive just got a new car (new to me, not brand new)
mk3 mondeo 02 reg 2.0 duratec
so the fiesta is off the road now and it is going to get modified now
im going to start collecting parts in 2012 to convert it to 2.0 zetec
ive got a mate helping me whos into old fords like mk1 mk2 escorts anglias etc
weve decided to try this route
2.0 zetec, megajolt ignition system,twin carbs,escort rs turbo lsd box

i geuss i will need to fit either 1,6 si or 1.8 sump pick up pipe and water pump and alterater bracket.
why do i need to swap these bits ? why cant i use 2.0 zetec parts ?
what starter do i use for 2.0 zetec/escort rs turbo box ?
which top engine mount do i use too ?

any tips etc on the above or on anything to help me with this conversion
thanks

any tips help advice all welcome and appriciated

[hb69]

Um, you want to use megajolt/megasquirt and carbs etc but then have to ask why you need to change the water pump/pick up? Just thinking maybe it would be easier for you to do a standard 2.0 conversion first, then do the management etc when you have the experience/knowledge to make it work? Thats how i would rather do it anyway.

Yes, fiesta zetec oil pick up/dipstick/sump as the exhaust goes under on the other side to a mondeo. The water pump i cant remember if its different in a fiesta to a mondeo but id change it anyway along with the cambelt. Alternator bracket yes you need a fiesta one, i used a 1.6 cvh bracket and alternator but a zetec one is the same.

You need to swap these bits because the mondeo uses power steering and air conditioning and as such has a different location for the pumps.

You can use any mk3 starter motor to my knowledge with an s2 box. I used a 1.4 cvh starter i think it was with a 1.6 xr2i gearbox.

The top engine mount you need to use is a zetec mk3 one.

My advise is read up as much as you can about doing the conversion before you do anything, and read what smo has posted above as he knows loads

[b0yracer]

thanks for your reply, reason i said megajolt and carbs is the lad helping me has used these kits and knows how to fit them etc
ive not got a clue how to fit injection and ecu and wiring loom and whatever else i would need
i had been informed i need to use different sump pick up water pump etc but didnt know why, so thanks for your reply

also i was planning on fitting a ashley 4 branch exhaust manifold so i presume i order one for a mk3 fiesta si or rs1800 so it goes under the sump ok ??

thanks again

[SLEEMAN]

If you want to run the 2.0 without carbs etc temporary so you can move it around etc then I have a full wiring loom from 5 door fiesta si and also a 2.0 desk non pays ecu to go with it and it's better as it will have all the mod cons of most uprated fiestas like wiring for electric packs etc for the whole loom and ecu delivered its £100 or £90 collected. I have loads of other spares and extra parts for modifying as well so take a look in my for sale thread

[hb69]

Don't bother with a 4 branch manifold, they never seem to fit properly, the standard one is ok anyway.

[MB7201]

Also, when swapping to a 1.6/1.8 Fiesta/Escort waterpump, you'll need the pulley from one of these vehicles too, as the Mondeo one is used on the backside of the belt (hence why you swap the waterpump in the first place), so it has no grooves for the belt to sit into

The water pump spins the wrong way on the mondeo as above. The pulley arrangement is totally different on the mondeo (alternator on the back etc.) hence needing fiesta parts.

[b0yracer]

Also, when swapping to a 1.6/1.8 Fiesta/Escort waterpump, you'll need the pulley from one of these vehicles too, as the Mondeo one is used on the backside of the belt (hence why you swap the waterpump in the first place), so it has no grooves for the belt to sit into

The water pump spins the wrong way on the mondeo as above. The pulley arrangement is totally different on the mondeo (alternator on the back etc.) hence needing fiesta parts.

do you mean the water pump on a black top zetec?? or any mondeo?? what about the old mondeo with the original silver top zetec??

sorry for all the questions i dont know much about zetecs only bits ive been told by people, and i was under the illusion
that all silver top zetecs were ok and its the black top zetec i need to change water pump but i may have either been missinformed or missunderstood

thanks again

also thanks to the other above reply about exhaust manifold
also thanks for the other above reply with the offer of ecu and loom i will get back to you if/when i decide to use that route

[MB7201]

That is for the silver top. Most of the info you will find is for the silver top engines as they are the only ones that bolt up directly with oem parts.

[b0yracer]

ok cheers