Nitrous Oxide- Is it worth doing??????

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Nitrous Oxide- Is it worth doing??????

Postby fiestadave58 on Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:49 am

Hi everybody, have just had a complete engine rebuild in my FRST and was considering getting a nitrous system installed. There are a lot of myths and rumours surrounding this stuff and after reading the FT's guide to nos i'm still in two minds about getting it or not??

Can anybody that has had a system fitted to their fiesta turbo give me their honest opinions on how the engine copes with nos, any problems you have encountered or any other relevant information that could be of some use to me

Thanks in advance :-?
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Postby turboboss on Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:27 pm

is it worth doing.... hell yeah!! i am running a holley direct port system the one with the blue bottle i'm running over 300 bhp on a 2.1 zvh without the nos i went for a 70 shot and when i activate the nitrous its like someone kicking you up the backside...... if your going for a kit go for the wizard of nos kit which is far safer and just a all round better kit i have got nos mainly for the drag strip because using it all the time on the road can work out expensive
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Postby hemingway on Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:21 am

I have nitrous on my rs1800 engine. I run 75hp nitrous from NX. For now I have no problem with engine. In couple of week I will instal dual stage nitrous 50+50. It is like turboboss say " its like someone kicking you up the backside...... " You may to have problems with traction. I use nitrous mainly for drag strip too.
Turboboss what is your best time ????? ( my is 14.2 ). You must be around 13 ??? or even lower :oooh: :oooh: :oooh:
P.s.: without nitrous I have 155 dyno aproven HP on crankshaft and 130 on the wheels.
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Postby turboboss on Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:24 pm

i've only just got the nos working just how i want it to but in doing so i have killed my bernies stage two gearbox lost fifth gear and my paddle clutch which was slipping like mad so i am having a stage two + which has shot peened gears and a new ap paddle and a progessive controller because using a 70 shot on top of everything else is giving me serious traction problems so at the moment can only use it in forth and fifth gears.. hopefully if things are finished in time i will be running at the pod on the 17th april which is the central rs national day :D
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Postby hemingway on Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:14 pm

My upgrade kit for those season.

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Postby turboboss on Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:26 pm

two bottles!! i just about have enough room for one i've got 258bhp at the wheels but my currant engine worn compression down on number one and two cylinders but i am having a new zvh bottom end built with steel rods and je racing pistons so i can go mad on the nos and to run alot more boost you
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Postby hemingway on Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:28 pm

How much did cost JE steel rods and pistons. Do you think is it possible to get for 1800 zetec engine ? I have 10:1 comp ratio.
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Postby louma84 on Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:04 pm

im thinking about getting nos for my frst. i 've just had a full engine rebuild as follows.

0.5mm rebore with forged pistons
piper 285 t2
group A head gasket
group A head bolts
beige injectors
cossy fuel pump
stage 2 t3 turbo
lightened flywheel
pace intercooler
and a few other bit which i can't remember

its bin r/r at 14psi and produces just ova 200bhp.
i was thinking about a 25bhp kit. which nos system would be best (wet/dry etc). or do you think i'll be pushing the engine without steel rods?
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Postby krsi on Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:05 pm

hemingway wrote:My upgrade kit for those season.

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Wheres that Exhaust manifold from mate?
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Postby hemingway on Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:55 pm

I do it by my selve.


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It is TIG welded and polished stainles steel. If you are interested...... I can build it another one.
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Postby turboboss on Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:56 pm

hemingway the rods and pistons came from the states from nolimits motorsport i'm not sure on the rs1800 but these rods and pistons are meant for the 2.0L focus if you pistons are fully floating then it might be possible to use the rods (which would be the weak point on the zetec) on your rs1800 with a little machining to get the Gudgeon pin to fit but i am not 100% on this, the rods cost me $330 and the pistons were $402 why dont you look at the 2.0 zetec seeing as there is more tuning parts Available .... by the way nice manifold :D louma84 you can use up to a 70 shot i know of some people running 150 shot on standard cvh rods but that only with a progessive controller its just that Initial shot of nos that causes trouble the higher up the rev range you go the more nos the engine can handle but you will be ok with about a fifty shot and remember on a turbo charged car because of the cooling affect (-127 degree) 50 shot would produce 55 or more bhp and 60fbt torque thats just generally speaking depending on the spec of the engine
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Postby hemingway on Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:16 pm

So then I must to come in England and go in Burton power shop and spend my money. If I bought new 2.0 zetec I must pay the engine rods and pistons which is equal if I bought only Burton rods and pistons. :wink:
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Postby turboboss on Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:52 pm

burton are dam expensive where abouts are you from... a second hand 2.0 zetec will cost peanuts look on ebay i can source the rods and pistons from a place near me in slough
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Postby louma84 on Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:28 pm

turbo boss wot nos system would be the best then 4 my spec?
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Postby hemingway on Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:15 am

Im from Slovenia. How much is 2.0 engine in your place. I get 1.8 zetec engine for about 250$ and I have two of them in my garage for spare parts.
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Postby turboboss on Sat Apr 09, 2005 5:10 pm

louma84 if you go for a holley kit a single fogger 50 shot system would be best but the best kits to go for would be wizard of nos which use Pulsoid solenoids these dont need maintenance like some of the american kits which use normal solenoids and a cross- fire injectors here is a web site for you http://www.noswizard.comThe Street-blaster 100i is the also at the asame time buy yourself a bottle heater because trying to maintain the bottle pressure at 900 psi without one is near enough impossible i`m got a holley direct port kit which is not the best but trying to get the nos working right took me an Eternity hemingway you can pick up 2.0 zetec over here for about £150 if you are lucky sometimes less vbery loe mileage ones go for £300 :D
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Postby hemingway on Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:27 pm

I have a lot of problems with standard american solenoids two of them are stop working in a short time of use. Now i upgrade my sistem with JAKŠA solenoids made in Slovenia an thej are the best for my apinion but is it true that they are not looking so good. turboboss I need also all wiring and diferent ecu for to upgrade my rs1800 with 2.0 zetec and that is a lot of work so i think that I gona to visit you and buy burton rods an pistons. In next week i gona to buy new head for my 1.8 zetec an i will upgrade it. Is in the 1800zetec same size and shape of valves like in 2.0 zetec head????
I like to put 32mm intake valve and 30mm exhaust valve. Any sugestions or help ?????? :-? :-? :-?
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Postby turboboss on Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:49 pm

there is an engine builder that i sometimes help out with odd jobs he is s**t hot ..this is his website very Formative http://www.pumaracing.co.uk i will ask him tomorrow what can be done with your cylinder head, how much power are you after if you are keeping the engine n/a i dont think there is any need to go to burtons for rods and pistons unless you want huge power the Pulsoid solenoids from wizard of nos will last a lifetime management wise u can use your rs1800 system just need a remap the ford system is quite a clever system its just not many people know how to map it, There are a few places over here that can help you out
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Postby hemingway on Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:40 pm

Did you find anything? is it the 2.0 valve the same like on the 1.8 zetec head.
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Postby disc on Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:39 pm

As Haynes manual says:


1.6 litre engine . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . .. . .Inlet - 26.0 mm Exhaust - 24.5 mm
1.8 and 2.0 litre engines . . . . . . . . . . . Inlet - 32.0 mm Exhaust - 28.0 mm
Sorry for my bad english...
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Postby hemingway on Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:49 pm

So what is your time turboboss? Do you have all times from santa pod or do you know where can I get it?
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Postby turboboss on Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:19 pm

i was down santa pod yesterday the best time i got was 14.09 at 105mph never got a chance to use the nos due to a few problems i had on the way up did'nt want to chance it yet again i had traction issues only just fitted a new paddle clutch and gearbox on saturday
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Postby hemingway on Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:18 pm

That is respecteble time. With nitrous you must run 13.5 with a bit of luck... Do you know how much is the fiesta best time?
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Postby turboboss on Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:05 pm

hemingway i should get in the thirteens without the nitrous just need to sort out the issue with traction in second and thrid gear i was all over the place next time i will have the rear suspension higher plus have it a tad bit harder and also sort out my wheel aligment i think the best time done by a fiesta is 12.4 at 116mph this was done in a mk1 fiesta which is 1.9cvh turbo& supercharged with nitrous :D
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Postby hemingway on Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:37 pm

I have a race 5th June and I hope to run under 14 If I have a luck but without turbo only nitrous :o . I hope that my engine will survive that avesome boost.
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