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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, Duff engine

Postby Ratspeed on Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:37 am

Good news :)

Be running in time for the show season then?
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, Duff engine

Postby jonyb4 on Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:00 am

yup, by next week i plan

will get my mates hoist and get it back in the garage in the week, then start to take the old lump out, should be piece of piss theres only like 5 wires, few hoses for coolant and fuel and rest is nuts and bolts job

manoeuvring it out will be the tricky part, so bonnet off is a must


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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine sourced

Postby Ratspeed on Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:58 pm

I did my share of engine swaps when i was younger, far too lazy now :lol:

Saying that, a couple of weeks back i found myself under a Mk1 XR2 fitting a new engine and a 5 speed box, and actually enjoyed it! :oooh:
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine sourced

Postby jonyb4 on Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:23 pm

thats right!
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine sourced

Postby jonyb4 on Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:49 am

spent 2 hours on her later this night (dunno why i prefer working at night?!)

the old engine is ready to lift out, just 1 of the 4 bolts on each engine mounts heolding her on, that and the fact the gearbox is stuck to the block :rolleyes:

but anyway should be out tomorrow so watch this space :Q
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine sourced

Postby jonyb4 on Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:16 am

my mate was lending me his hoist yesterday as planned, but when i got down there about to lift it in the boot he changes his mind, useless coon

so after that small delay i sourced another, went and picked it up, and to my delight it fitted in the fiesta :Q

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pinto ready to come out, only 2 engine mount bolts securing it

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parts in back seat
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short while later
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and what the f**k this thing is :lol:
so weird looking, a "torsion transfer device"

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first time seeing one of these before, looked a bit different in the college videos

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so unbolted it, 5 bolts behind the "flywheel"

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took the alternator off and stowed the engine in the corner, ill come back to it later to strip it down

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lifted the new engine up and packed up for tonight

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only got the hoist for a few days so tomorrow ill be cleaning the bay, as its full of gunky black s**t

and swapping a few things over eg the automatic setup, got a new fuel pump for it, also the electronic ignition
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine sourced

Postby jonyb4 on Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:24 am

well got stuff swapped over and new engine in, finally after faffing about with the silly torque converter for ages, as it wouldnt line up fully with the gearbox input shaft :rolleyes:

anyway its a big thanks to W P E on old skool ford for recommending that i take the engine back out, take the converter off and slot it on the shaft, then position the engine and using the starter motor hole do each of the 4 bolts up that secure flywheel to the converter, worked a treat so thanks man!
hes got the patience of a saint and stuck through my phone calls a few times now :P


so bolted the gearbox to the block and both engine mounts are on and tight, the hoist needs to go back tomorrow as ive already had it 4 days and the garage is busy!


tomorrows jobs are some plumbing, wire refitting and bolt the exhaust back on, not far from firing up! :D


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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine sourced

Postby jayrs on Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:26 am

coming on well mate :Q
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine sourced

Postby Ratspeed on Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:00 pm

Good job there mate. Bet you cant wait to fire her up. :Q
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine sourced

Postby jonyb4 on Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:28 pm

you bet i cant :D

went fr a spin in my old mans capri tonight, love driving it, mechanicly its great, he has to many bodges though, for instance the drivers seat mounts...

update coming!
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine sourced

Postby jonyb4 on Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:45 pm

well started to plumb things in, got more done than i planned

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since i lost to much fluid

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made a start on the electric fan conversion, whether it saves 3 bhp or not i want a nice quite and uncluttered engine bay, so nice efficient electric fan

got this inline switch from a mk4 fiesta with a 1.3 hcs

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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine sourced

Postby Rs Adz on Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:54 pm

coming on well
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine sourced

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:16 pm

thanks


you guys may notice my father has chipped in some work by painting the front of the bay black, nicer as it was all manky and bit rusty
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine sourced

Postby Max M4X WW on Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:52 pm

The thing on the flywheel is a torque converter..

Wikipedia wrote:In modern usage, a torque converter is generally a type of hydrodynamic fluid coupling that is used to transfer rotating power from a prime mover, such as an internal combustion engine or electric motor, to a rotating driven load. The torque converter normally takes the place of a mechanical clutch in a vehicle with an automatic transmission, allowing the load to be separated from the power source. It is usually located between the engine's flywheel and the transmission.

The key characteristic of a torque converter is its ability to multiply torque when there is a substantial difference between input and output rotational speed, thus providing the equivalent of a reduction gear. Some of these devices are also equipped with a temporary locking mechanism which rigidly binds the engine to the transmission when their speeds are nearly equal, to avoid slippage and a resulting loss of efficiency.

So have you re-fitted the Auto box with the new engine?
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine sourced

Postby jonyb4 on Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:27 pm

i know what it is lol ta :P


yea still a auto, dispite my best efforts, but once its mine a manual conversion wont be far off, should be simple enough


this is still a sub £800 capri so far, albiet it still isnt running yet :lol:
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine sourced

Postby Max M4X WW on Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:38 pm

Apologies, from your post I didn't think you knew what it was.

Also didn't realise this wasn't your car, so fair enough.
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine sourced

Postby jonyb4 on Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:45 pm

lol yea sorry i was being a plonker, i hadent seen one in person only what i learned about them while studing at college, i didnt know the correct name for them either


its my old mans car, im doing the work, hes paying for most things, but he wants me to have it when its done, he'd be greedy having this and his mk1 :Q
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine sourced

Postby emblem on Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:46 pm

getting there,

Been reading from the start, i think i want it running as much as you and your dad do, lol.

Good work. :)
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine sourced

Postby jonyb4 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:14 pm

haha cheers man

the spark plug is still stuck in the head atm, my old man screwed a "easy out" into it, but ive not been down to extract it yet, guilty to this nice weather we've been having lately lol, no hurry with it but would be nice to have it running


seen bits of rust spots behind the front bumper earlier so ill take it off and clean it up soon
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine sourced

Postby jonyb4 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:27 pm

just realised i missed the last update :(


the new engine had different fittings on the inlet manifold so certain ones were swapped with the old engine

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also this set of vacuum pipes were fitted from the old, no idea what they do but probs best keep them
as the engine was in a stock car and obviously refinement and comfort werent an issue for that

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problem with the throttle linkage, the connector was backwards on the new carb, i unbolted it and turned it around but the second venturi doesnt open fully at full throttle, so might need to swap the carbs over, this one doesnt have the auto choke butterflies either

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pic of the thread extractor in the plug :rolleyes:

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Postby hb69 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:44 pm

WPE,thats the guys who bought my mk1 off me
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine sourced

Postby jonyb4 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:46 pm

aah was it wayne? hes a cracking fella very helpful

looking at the work they do im not supprised!
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Postby jonyb4 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:51 am

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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine fitted but delays

Postby russ-RST on Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:30 am

Progress is coming on well :) altho I can't help but think that huge engine bay needs a nice v6 n/a for a turbo'd lump in there :devil: but it's all money these days ain't it :rolleyes: Likeing this keep going can't beat a bit of old school mechanics :) I just can't being myself to like the green 1 :aaah: don't like the colour nor the shape off it but that's my opinion and it's still cool cos it's old and still going in my eyes :Q
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine fitted but delays

Postby jonyb4 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:57 pm

cheers man

i get the feeling myself, not a big fan of the mk1's shape, the RS models are stunning though, its the lights on the front that bug me the most, the lines on the side is really special though, nothing has a massive swage down the side like this these days
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine fitted but delays

Postby jonyb4 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:51 pm

old man is sending me to pick this kit up tomorrow, wanted a kenlow but they dont seem to sell them

http://www.peterlloydrallying.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=24&products_id=1147
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine fitted but delays

Postby Ratspeed on Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:34 pm

This fudgekin thing running yet?! :bonkers:
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine fitted but delays

Postby jonyb4 on Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:30 pm

no, im going to recheck the timing as somethings up...


but a new shock come for it

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then i took the bumper off

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and this is how far i got before being halted by stubborn self tappers

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grill and headlight surrounds are going black, bumper is being repainted, and the rust around the front panel is being removed and fresh white paint going on :Q
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Postby Ratspeed on Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:04 pm

Running first, piss about painting second :)
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine fitted but delays

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:38 am

ha yea true, just getting a bit anoyed with the engine, so im trying to ignore it if im honest haha

the old man put an offer on a LSD axle earlier, hope it comes through! :D
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine sourced

Postby knuckles on Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:48 am

jonyb4 wrote:

made a start on the electric fan conversion, whether it saves 3 bhp or not i want a nice quite and uncluttered engine bay, so nice efficient electric fan

got this inline switch from a mk4 fiesta with a 1.3 hcs


are you using this as a fan switch to turn the fan on at a certain temp ?
if so you have the wrong sensor. That sensor is a temp sender which sends a reading to the dials on the mk4 fiesta.
You may have to use a mk5 escort top rad hose like i did and use the correct fan switch

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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine fitted but delays

Postby jonyb4 on Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:00 am

lol one too many of them was reposted :P

cheers clark big help!
i was afraid it was a temp sender, seems a bit small, but couldnt remember or not

i wonder if that proper sensor will fit this ones thread?
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine fitted but delays

Postby knuckles on Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:42 pm

jonyb4 wrote:cheers clark big help!
i was afraid it was a temp sender, seems a bit small, but couldnt remember or not

i wonder if that proper sensor will fit this ones thread?


the one i have which is the same on a Fiesta rs turbo has a much bigger thread.
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine fitted but delays

Postby andymac on Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:10 pm

TBH a fan switch is a fan switch is a fan switch. I'd just go down the factors and see what they have to suit that thread, iirc most fan switches come on at about 95 centigrade :)
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Re: 1986 Capri 2.0 Laser project, new engine fitted but delays

Postby jonyb4 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:52 pm

good idea ill take that sensor down with me and see what they got

think its around 90 yea, i know you can get race ones that kick in about 80 instead
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