CANCELLED GB - Quaife Quick Rack

[Project_XR2i_Trackcar]

Right, this first post has been edited to keep things simple (hopefully)

To date, I've had some interest and we've had a rack sent to Quaife which has been stripped and assessed. The finished product will provide a 2.75 lock to lock and will be supplied in kit form only (factory fitted is an option but at an extra cost and you must supply them with a rack before hand).

Quaife have given me the following prices for a kit only . Delivery will be extra and all kits will be delivered to one address (likely to be mine) then posted on, collected or given to the individuals at a show or similar thereafter:

10 people = £150 + VAT so £172.50
20 people = £125 + VAT so £143.75
30 people = £105 + VAT so £120.75[/size]

I'm gonna assume for now that we will probably only get 10 so lets call it £172.50 per kit.

If you are 100% committed then you need to PM me your real name and contact details (E-mail & Mob). I will populate a list below and once we have 10 i will PM you with payment instructions. Then I will need you to submit either a 25% deposit (£43.13) or, the amount in full to an account in my name and I will pay Quaife a deposit to get the builds started (their terms, not mine). Final payment will have to be made (again, same account if you havent already, then i pay in full) prior to Quaife shipping the kits.

We now have 11 people confirmed and their deposits paid, I will be calling Quaife in the next few days to pay the deposit (£474.43).

MintwhiteRS, I'm afraid you have missed the boat and your place has now gone to admanrs

1. Project_XR2i_Trackcar
2. AndyKam - 25% deposit PAID - Refunded (paypal)
3. FRST5090- 25% deposit PAID - Refunded (paypal)
4. Carbonboy67 - 25% deposit PAID - Refunded (paypal)
5. White2i - 25% deposit PAID - Refunded (paypal)
6. admanrs - 25% deposit PAID - Refunded (paypal)
7. Til13r - 25% deposit PAID - Refunded (paypal)
8. 0010- 25% deposit PAID - Refunded (paypal)
9. Phillip_d - 25% deposit PAID Refunded
10. JayRS - 25% deposit PAID - Refunded (paypal)
11. Jam_84 - 25% deposit PAID

On a final note, all i am gaining from this is a quick ratio rack for my trackcar, same price as everyone else.


BAD NEWS GUYS

Guys, please see the e-mail i have just today received from Quaife.

Its bad news Chris, we have a problem. We are trying to get the rack designed but have a problem that cannot be overcome. The pinion we need to make to achieve a ratio of around 2.75 would need to be of a size not compatible with the standard rack housing. The option of machining the rack housing to accommodate the size of pinion required is not available as this would not give enough strength in the housing to support the stresses and strains of the steering.
The only option is to say, sorry the project is not going to work, and give you back a full refund there will obviously be no charge for the work we have carried out so far.
Please get back to me Chris, and tell me how you wish the refund to be done.
Len

Kind regards

Len Unwin
Quaife Technical Sales

This is not a wind up, I am truely gutted as i've put a lot of work into this but as you can see for yourselves this is a definite show stopper which is well out of my hands

I will reply and ask for the funds to be re-imbursed to my card and set about making refunds once they reach my account. Paypal is the easiest option for me as i am currently in Cyprus then Germany until at least mid August.

Sorry Guys.

[Carbonboy67]

I'll have one please mate

[Project_XR2i_Trackcar]

I'll have one please mate

Lazy sod, I'll copy and paste it then

1. Project_xr2i_Trackcar
2. AndyKam
3. Carbonboy67
4.

[Pastieman]

will these be kits to fit to our racks mate i.e strip down and take out our internals then fit theirs or will they be complete racks ???

[Project_XR2i_Trackcar]

will these be kits to fit to our racks mate i.e strip down and take out our internals then fit theirs or will they be complete racks ???

Don't know. I'm assuming it's a complete rack. A standard recon rack is 50-60 quid so i would hope so.

[Pastieman]

in the old post in tuning/handling/ braking

i found this

"Right I spoke to Scott at Quaife today. He says that they don't make one for the Mk3, but if there is 10 people that want them they will make a kit too suit.
I explained that 10 might be alot to ask for. So his alternative was that if there is 5 then they would still be able to make a kit too suit. The only difference being was that the price would be a little dearer."



so it looks like it will just be a kit... at 120 it wouldn't be a rack... they would have to fabricate a whole rack from scratch that would cost alot more than 120 per rack

120 for internals is about right

[Project_XR2i_Trackcar]

in the old post in tuning/handling/ braking

i found this

"Right I spoke to Scott at Quaife today. He says that they don't make one for the Mk3, but if there is 10 people that want them they will make a kit too suit.
I explained that 10 might be alot to ask for. So his alternative was that if there is 5 then they would still be able to make a kit too suit. The only difference being was that the price would be a little dearer."



so it looks like it will just be a kit... at 120 it wouldn't be a rack... they would have to fabricate a whole rack from scratch that would cost alot more than 120 per rack

120 for internals is about right

I've asked for a rack. Will see what Quaife come back with if they reply to my E-mail.

[cowie20]

i might be interested in it if its a full rack..ill take 2

[filtra]

Yeah - £120 seems cheap for a whole rack. I assume it's £120 on an exchange basis?

[Project_XR2i_Trackcar]

Guys, I really dont know as yet.

I'm waiting out on Quaife getting back to me. I will be asking for a full rack when they do. I certainly dont want to be pulling mine appart. Its only 50 quid for a std recon one so i cant see it being mega ££££'s for one with a shorter rack.

I just want interest for now, for a full rack. If its more than 120 quid them time will tell and we will see who is still interested by that time.

[Tel]

1. Project_xr2i_Trackcar
2. AndyKam
3. Carbonboy67
4. Tel
5.

[White2i]

1. Project_xr2i_Trackcar
2. AndyKam
3. Carbonboy67
4. Tel
5. White2i
6.

[Makaveli]

I want one, but it will depend on whether I'm made redundant or not in the next week

[filtra]

I'll have one if its £120 for a complete item!

[frostie]

1. Project_xr2i_Trackcar
2. AndyKam
3. Carbonboy67
4. Tel
5. White2i
6.frostie

[TIL13R]

1. Project_xr2i_Trackcar
2. AndyKam
3. Carbonboy67
4. Tel
5. White2i
6.frostie
7. TIL13R

I would like one

[slaney21]

erm what is a quick rack and is it only for turbos?

sorry i like to ask questions on things im unsure of

[Project_XR2i_Trackcar]

Its not just for turbo's. Mine isnt a turbo, in fact the turbo has nothing to do with it.

The term 'quick rack' refers to the steering rack. pretty much all racing / rally cars have a quick rack steering rack. It gives you a lower ratio of turns on the steering wheel to the wheels. ie, 1 turn on the steering wheel will give you full lock as an example.

Get my drift?

[cowie20]

1. Project_xr2i_Trackcar
2. AndyKam
3. Carbonboy67
4. Tel
5. White2i
6.frostie
7. TIL13R
8. cowie20
9. cowie20

iam after 2 please

[jayrs]

might be interested, but ill need to know a bit more about it.

the FRST came as standard with a quick rack, and was the only fiesta in the mk3/3.5 range to be fitted with such rack, so could you find out what the lock to lock will be (frst is 3.75) and also, if the part there be putting in will be servicable, i.e if i need a replacment bit year down the line if i can get one or not.

[Stuartcarvell]

I'm presuming this will not be an option with PAS?
Stuart

[Project_XR2i_Trackcar]

I'm presuming this will not be an option with PAS?
Stuart

I dont know as yet. Some good points have been raised which i will put forward to quaife. It appears that there is sufficient interest so if i havent heard anything via e-mail by end of play today then I'll phone them tomorrow.

[RS rob]

i'm also interested, especially looking at fords prices for a new rack,

i'm undecided what to do about my current setup, as at the moment i have PAS
but i like the thought of having more room in the engine bay, so this idea could be the answer!!

[Project_XR2i_Trackcar]

Guys,

I've had a reply from Quaife:

Dear Chris,
If possible, would you be able to send us a sample?
We do not foresee a problem with designing and manufacturing a quick steering rack for the Mk3 Ford Fiesta.
We require a single minimum order of 10 units.
Upon receiving a sample we will be able to give you a quotation.
If you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact me.

Kind regards,
Peter Drake

My reply:

Hi Peter

Thanks for your reply

I can't see a donor rack being a problem, I will ask the guys if anyone has one surplus they can donate, if not i will see if i can pick one up myself. I have about 10 people showing interest already, i expect that figure to fluctuate +/- though once i get a final price / more detail

A couple of questions that have been asked already that you maybe able to help me out with:

1. Would the final purchase be for a kit only or the whole rack? (I'm assuming from your reply that as you need a rack to make one up it will be in a kit form or, will you able to fit the kit on receipt of an exchange rack).

2. If kit, would you be able to fit it to their racks at the factory? If so, would there be a fee or will it be included in the kit price? As per Q1. Would you be able to do supply the rack complete on an exchange basis?

3. Would you be able to cater for power assisted racks? (Or can i rightly assume here that your gonna need a PAS rack again to make a kit up)

4. What would the lock to lock be roughly? an RS Turbo for example is 3.75 turns and is notably shorter than other models.

5. If it's a kit, will the customers be able to buy replacement parts later on? Will the kit be guaranteed?

6. I appreciate you need a donor rack to make the proto-type but is there any chance of a ball-park figure to sweeten the guys appetite?

7. (from myself) For whoever supplies the supply a donor rack, would it be possible to receive the finished product back in the rack as supplied or could you offer a discount on the finished kit?

Kind Regards
Chris

So clearly, I need to ask....

Does anyone have a spare rack to hand that can be sent to Quaife ????? I'm hoping that Q7 will come back with a +ive answer for the peep that can

[Carbonboy67]

I have a near new FRST rack in my garage, somewhere

I got a few hours spare tomorrow so I will hunt it out.

Do I get a discount for supplying said rack then ???

More importantly do I get it back, as Gen. Ford ones are rare now ?

[luca]

Let me know confirmed spec and details then I may be interested in such an item

[Project_XR2i_Trackcar]

Do I get a discount for supplying said rack then ???

I have asked mate

[dug112y]

interested in a rack also when the details emerge

[Pastieman]

you wanna def send a frst one, don't send a standard fiesta one as they will make it quicker than standard not quicker than the fiesta turbo rack... if you understand me

if its a complete rack i will be interested

[Project_XR2i_Trackcar]

you wanna def send a frst one, don't send a standard fiesta one as they will make it quicker than standard not quicker than the fiesta turbo rack... if you understand me

if its a complete rack i will be interested

Have you got a FRST rack that you can donate then ? I've heard they are like rocking horse dung.





Guys - read my text. I've asked the same questions and have let you all know what i know so far

[Project_XR2i_Trackcar]

White2i has a spare rack which he is willing to submit to Quiafe. If there's anyone else make it know and just keep hold of it for now, I'll drop you a PM if needed

[Carbonboy67]

I have a near new FRST rack in my garage, somewhere
I got a few hours spare tomorrow so I will hunt it out.

If there's anyone else make it know and just keep hold of it for now, I'll drop you a PM if needed

Cough

[luca]

Even i noted that Shaun and im blind as a bat

[Pastieman]

i have one but its provisionally sold to 0010 off here up to him..... i can give it to the cause

[RS_seg]

im interested in one of these also.